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by afew Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 12:41:48 PM EST

Open thready goodness for your weekend


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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 12:43:16 PM EST
Working on explaining Abductive Modal Logic to people who have never heard of it without sounding like a raving loon.  Example, Affirming the Consequent in axiomatic deductive logic is a major no-no, use it all the time in abductive logic.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 02:12:11 PM EST
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So, working on your abductors?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 02:38:29 PM EST
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Working with an Elder in the Shamastic Tradition of the Nordics.

Trees are involved.

So is, as I understand the matter, par-boiling myself, at a date to be named later.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 03:51:16 PM EST
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Video on YouTube? Pretty please?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 01:43:10 AM EST
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War Nerd: OBAMA'S WARS >> Good Fighter, Can't Cheerlead Worth A Damn // (September 11th, 2012)
Obama just doesn't understand his job as war chief of this big crazy tribe. A war chief doesn't have to win; only a wonk's view of the world would see things that way. A war chief has to look like a war chief and talk like one. And yell a lot. Obama just can't manage that, and when he tries, he makes us feel stupid. He embarrasses us, trying to sing along to a tune you know he thinks is just dumb.

It's a shame in a way, because his war wonks did a pretty good job actually running the wars. I like to think of them grumbling about it now, a bunch of youngish dressy-casual technocrats drowning their sorrows in frappucinos at some suburban DC Starbucks, counting off their so-what accomplishments: "We got out of Iraq ... not one American killed there this year; we took down Qaddafi without one single American casualty; we killed bin Laden right in front of the Pakistani Army and got away with it; what does a C-in-C have to do to get a little respect around here?"

The answer is: He has to look convincing when he holds our enemy's head up on a stick and shows it to the crowd, all drippy and drawing flies. That's what we want, and Obama, with all that creepy self-control, is the last guy you'd pick for that job.



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 12:51:44 PM EST
The people who are yelling for an "America!  Fuck YEA!" foreign policy remind me of Imperial Germany, Hapsburg Empire, British Empire, Russian Imperial, and French Republic foreign policies 1890 through 1914.

And we know how that turned out.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 02:18:00 PM EST
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"and we all drone on"

  -- John Lennon

Or not.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 02:40:39 PM EST
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You and your spouse want to go out on a Saturday evening and you need a babysitter for your 2 small children. Your choices are either Dora, who you know spends all of her time on her cell phone while the kids run wild around the house, or Uncle Willard who dresses really nicely and is a convicted child molester. Who to choose? What to do?

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Oct 6th, 2012 at 03:53:50 PM EST
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Did you think of calling Grandpa Noam and seeing if he's available? (so much for analogies....)
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 03:10:54 AM EST
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A third party? Go ahead and throw away your vote!

Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
by A swedish kind of death on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 04:38:58 AM EST
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But it works for babysitting.....
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 04:47:28 AM EST
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VERY GOOD!  You got it!

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 07:30:34 AM EST
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Romney is now polling towards even - I think we better start getting used to having a Republican heading the USA again...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 04:50:32 AM EST
the national polls have always been more even. But the poll for Prez is based on winning individual states and, so far, Obama's advantage in that set of races remains much as it always was.

4 weeks and 2 debates is a political eternity.

If Obama screws up the next one, we may have to review his re-election prospects, but right now it's all piss and wind

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 08:07:15 AM EST
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Aw. don't be that way. Think of all the fun with a Prez. Willard. What social services will he ax next? What country will we invade? Should the rest of the US invade California just to shut those smug bastards up?

Think of the FUN!

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 08:19:09 AM EST
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Only for interesting definitions of "Fun".

The world is in a dangerous enough phase on so many fronts, and you think that making it far far worse would be fun. I worry about you sometimes

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 08:29:41 AM EST
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When the world gives you lemons, and you can't stop them from giving you lemons, make lemonade and smile. If the public sanctions a Prez Willard (think of all those old people who will vote for him) let's watch as he kicks all of the old folks to the curb because they're weak and can't defend themselves. Justice. I tell you, justice!

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 08:55:08 AM EST
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Secret spy telescopes' new role: helping Nasa hunt for life beyond solar system | Science | The Observer

Officials at Nasa have been given an unexpected gift by American spy chiefs: a pair of space telescopes, each as large as the Hubble observatory.

The huge instruments were designed by the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), a secretive intelligence agency, to peer down on sites in the Middle East and former Soviet Union. However, the project was cancelled and now Nasa has been presented with the leftover instruments. One group of astronomers has already begun work on plans to use a telescope to help in the hunt for life on other worlds.

"This is a gift that we have to take advantage of," said Dr Matt Mountain, director of the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, Maryland. "These are very large telescopes, and from their design specifications they appear ideal for carrying out large surveys of the heavens, including searches for Earth-like worlds orbiting stars near our solar system."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 06:19:39 AM EST
In which the Telegraph, the Daily Telegraph, comes out in favour of re-nationalizing the railways

Telegraph - Andrew Gilligan - No way to run a grown-up railway

Yet hard as it may be to get worked up about which one of two unappealing companies gets to paint its logo on some trains, Sir Richard has done us a big favour by exposing the broken nature of the franchising system. Last year, the Government tried to reform rail franchises to avoid the "one-way bet" of revenue support. They made franchisees put up a risk-related "performance bond" to guard against broken promises, and they linked future revenue demands and revenue support to future changes in the economy. West Coast is the first franchise to be let under the new rules. But it is precisely these calculations, the level of the performance bond and the likely changes in the economy, that the civil servants assessing Virgin against First appear to have got so badly wrong.
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 In the end, however, the most lasting effect of the Virgin rebirth will be to fuel the growing consensus that the railways cannot go on like this. The system's effort to share risk between public and private always seems to work against the taxpayer and farepayer. One option would be to move to a "concession" form of franchising, as on London's buses and many European regional railways, where the company is no more than a contractor.

Britain's second-most important main line, East Coast, offers a more radical alternative......



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 08:12:38 AM EST
Gilligan just found out how much his season ticket will go up by?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 09:03:04 AM EST
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You think he can count?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 11:27:35 AM EST
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(Belated comment) this deserves a diary (along with the West Coast franchising debacle in general)!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Oct 11th, 2012 at 07:18:31 AM EST
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you just knew this would happen eventually

Guardian - Republican congressman Paul Broun dismisses evolution and other theories

A Republican congressman who sits on the science committee of the House of Representatives has dismissed evolution, the Big Bang theory and embryology as "lies straight from the pit of hell".
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In the clip, Broun, who is a doctor, says that "as a scientist" he has found data that shows the earth is no older than 9,000 years and was created in six days. Mainstream scientific thought holds that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, give or take the odd millennia.

Broun also says that theories regarding the origins of the universe and evolution represent "lies to try and keep me and all the folk that were taught that from understanding that they need a saviour".

apparently he is unopposed in the next election..why ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 09:14:14 AM EST
According to his wiki biohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ in Paul_Broun's first successful run for Congress his opponent aroused controversy for saying that the University of Georga, in Athens - part of the contested district, was a "liberal bastion" that should be shut down except for the football program. For him the serious challenges probably still come from the right. The 10th Congressional District is in north east Geroga and adjoins South Carolina with the Atlanta suburbs on its west side. Athens was so named because of the planter's fondness for ancient Greece whose practice of slave-holding they used as justification and precedent for their own activities. And South Carolina is the true 'Heart of Dixie'.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 11:29:31 AM EST
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To reconcile science with his faith, maybe he should read Isaac ben Samuel of Acre (13-14 century)
Isaac states that the universe is actually 15,340,500,000 years old. Isaac arrived at this conclusion by distinguishing between earthly "solar years" and "divine years," based on a verse from Psalms, which states that "A thousand years in Your sight are but as yesterday" (Psalm 90:4). If each day of a divine year is equal to a thousand earthly "solar years," then a divine year would be 365,250 years long. Isaac then makes some other calculations based on the Talmud and the Biblical sabbatical year, and arrives at the said number.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 02:56:21 PM EST
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Unfortunately, I think for many Republicans, "billions" is only admissible in their theology when associated with "dollars".

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 04:05:25 PM EST
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Department of the bleedin' obvious pt 94

Guardian - Gary johnston - Legalising marijuana: most Americans get it, so when will our politicians?

Prohibition in the US was a huge, miserable failure. During its 13-year run, beginning in 1920, Prohibition caused a massive rise in organized crime and actually increased alcohol consumption instead of curtail it.

After Prohibition's repeal in 1933, kids didn't start drinking in record numbers. Society didn't collapse. Today, bathtub gin dealers don't run amok on playgrounds; microbreweries don't protect their turf with automatic weapons. Instead, a safe environment to drink was created when the government began regulating and taxing alcohol.

And yet, here we are in 2012, giving Prohibition another shot. For lack of a better word, that's just stupid.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 09:54:41 AM EST
To the horror of The Family Council there is a measure to legalize medical marijuana on the ballot in Arkansas this fall. I'll laugh my ass off if it passes.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 11:32:34 AM EST
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I see no moral argument for criminalising cannabis whilst alcohol is freely available.

If the debate is going to be on genuine health grounds on the other hand, let's look at alcohol too.

Oh and tobacco.

And hypocrisy of politicians, and reality...


Taken outside a local hospital.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 12:05:09 PM EST
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EurActiv: Countries frown at German `blood, sweat and tears' plan (updated 10 September 2012)
Last year, the European Commission decided to lower the proportion by which EU-sponsored projects require co-financing to help Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Romania, Latvia and Hungary, which have all benefited from different forms of bailouts in recent years.

Under EU rules, member countries have to provide at least 15% of the funding of EU-sponsored projects from their own budget. Under the Commission proposal, the EU contribution could be increased to a maximum of 95% if requested by one of the countries concerned.

But the German paper says that in the new Multiannual Financial Framework (jargon for the long-term EU budget), the rules for financing will return to the "pre-crisis status".

Because the crisis in in a lull and we need to jack up the market panic a little more.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 01:08:11 PM EST
Meanwhile, Euro zone mulls 20 billion euro separate budget: paper (Reuters, October 7, 2012)
There is still no clear definition of what a single, central budget would entail, but Germany strongly supports the idea as a way of coordinating transfers among member states, and France is also in favor, which in terms of euro zone decision-making means it has substantial momentum.

In the early release of an article to be published on Monday, FTD said the sum under consideration amounted to about 0.2 percent of the common currency bloc's gross domestic product (GDP). It did not cite its sources.

"The budget for the whole European Union currently totals around 130 billion euros a year, which is just over 1 percent of EU economic growth," the paper wrote. "A euro zone budget of around 20 billion euros would mean extra costs of around 0.2 percent of euro zone GDP."

Yay, 0.2% federal budget will really be enough to "coordinate transfers among member states".

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 01:16:24 PM EST
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Migeru:
just over 1 percent of EU economic growth," the paper wrote

FTD wrote that? Or Reuters mistranslated?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 02:20:59 PM EST
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Good catch.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 02:31:53 PM EST
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This would be the FTD story: 20 Mrd. für neuen "Euro-Haushalt". And it does appear Reuters wrote that. It's not even a mistranslation.
Dieser soll die Wirtschaftspolitik in der Euro-Zone stützen. Als mögliche Größenordnung werden 20 Mrd. Euro pro Jahr genannt. Dieser Betrag klingt riesig, wäre aber nur etwas mehr als 0,2 Prozent des Bruttoinlandsprodukts des Euro-Gebiets. Der EU-Haushalt umfasst 2012 knapp 130 Mrd. Euro.


I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 02:36:40 PM EST
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Your sacrifice will bring us prosperity.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 01:19:32 PM EST
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A pound of flesh, no more, no less.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 01:30:47 PM EST
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Live-blogging Venezuela Election: UPDATE 1:20 PM EDT: Peruvian politician and author Mario Vargas Llosa has added his voice to those of other outside fear-mongers warning of possible "fraud" that would ensure a Chavez victory, among other incendiary comments.

UPDATE 1:53 PM: An election monitor reports that:

In the Arevalo Gonzalez in Higuerote, a national observer comments that, in the eight centers he has visited in Miranda State, he has encountered no serious incidents and only 3 accidental blank votes. He's from the Red de Observadores Electorales de Venezuela, which has more than 600 observers spread out throughout the country.

The state television station VTV has a message at the bottom of the screen that reads: one must WAIT to see the face of the candidate before pressing VOTE (Deben ESPERAR ver el rostro de su candidato para presionar VOTAR). The message hasn't changed for at least half an hour.



"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 02:37:02 PM EST
Vargas Llosa is also saying that Catalan secession from Spain would be a bigger problem than the economic crisis.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 7th, 2012 at 03:04:44 PM EST
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