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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 01:54:35 PM EST
Four murdered under bizarre circumstances in Alps | News | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

Shots to the head killed three of the four found dead in the Alps in what the prosecutor has called an act of "extreme savagery." A 4-year-old survived by appearing "completely invisible."

Prosecutor Eric Maillaud won't say whether the attack has the hallmarks of a professional assassination. Three of the victims were found in a BMW. The fourth, a cyclist, arrived at the scene by chance.

"It was clearly an act of extreme savagery and it was obvious that whoever did this wanted to kill," Maillaud would say.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:16:26 PM EST
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Three of the four victims killed in savage Alps shooting were shot in the head, say officials - Europe - World - The Independent

Three out of the four victims killed at a French Alpine beauty spot were shot in the middle of the head it was revealed today.

The attack, which left four adults dead and one seven-year-old girl in a coma, was described today by a public prosecutor as an act of "gross savagery".

A four-year-old girl, also involved in the shooting, was under police protection today after being found alive hiding beneath the legs of her slain mother in the bullet-riddled BMW vehicle targeted by attackers. 

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 03:01:54 PM EST
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La presse anglaise sur les traces des victimes de Chevaline | Le Monde The British press tracks the Chevaline victims | Le Monde
M. Maillaud précise que la voiture autour de laquelle a eu lieu le drame était immatriculée au nom d'un père de famille d'originie irakienne, qui s'était enregistré quelques jours plus tôt dans un camping voisin, à Saint-Jorioz. Né à Bagdad, il vivait depuis de nombreuses années en Grande-Bretagne, a confirmé le procureur, qui n'a cependant pas souhaité donner son nom dans l'attente de l'identification de l'ADN.Mr. Maillaud (public prosecutor) states that the car around which the drama took place was registered to a family of Iraqi origin, which checked into a nearby campsite, St. Jorioz, a few days earlier. Born in Baghdad, he had been living for many years in Britain, confirmed the prosecutor, who, however, did not wish to give name pending identification of the DNA.
Des informations qui ont mené les fins limiers de la presse britannique vers la piste de la famille Al-Hilli. Des voisins interrogés par le quotidien The Telegraph et l'AFP décrivent un couple paisible, parti comme tant d'autres par le ferry la semaine dernière pour camper en France.Information that led the sleuths of the British press to track the al-Hilli family. Neighbours interviewed by the newspaper The Telegraph and AFP describe a quiet couple, leaving like so many others on the ferry last week to camp in France.
Saad Al-Hilli, 50 ans, identifié par des sources policières, vivait à Claygate avec sa femme, Iqbal, un peu plus jeune que lui et originaire comme lui d'Irak, et leurs deux filles. ... "Ils faisaient beaucoup de tourisme en France", indique à l'AFP Julian Stedman, le comptable de Saad Al-Hilli depuis 2004, également résident de ce quartier.Saad Al-Hilli, 50, identified by police sources, lived in Claygate with his wife, Iqbal, a little younger than him and like him originally from Iraq, and their two daughters. ... "They did a lot of touring in France" , Julian Stedman, the accountant of Saad Al-Hilli since 2004, also a resident of the area, told AFP.
M. Al-Hilli figure au registre du commerce comme le créateur de Shtech, une entreprise de conseil informatique spécialisée dans l'aéronautique, dont Iqbal était la secrétaire.Mr. Al-Hilli appears in the commercial register as the creator of Shtech, an IT consulting firm that specializes in aviation, where Iqbal was secretary.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 03:22:47 PM EST
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Dead cyclist named by French press

(Guardian) - Le Messager reports that the name of the dead cyclist, according to its information, is Sylvain Mollier, from Ugine, approximately 16km from Chevaline. It says he worked in metallurgy for Cezus, a metal manufacturing company [subsidiary of Areva].

His wife, worried when he did not return from his cycle ride, went to a local police station with a photograph of her husband and officers made the link.

    Selon le Dauphiné Libéré, il s'agit de Sylvain Mollier, employé dans l'entreprise "Cezus", une usine du groupe Areva, basée à Ugine en Savoie.

CEZUS, the global leader on the zirconium market, produces zirconium alloy tubes, bars, and sheets for pressurized water reactors (PWRs) and boiling water reactors (BWRs) .

CEZUS has its own R&D center ("CRC") located in Ugine, France. This center is  dedicated to R&D on Zirconium alloys, focusing on process and metallurgy :. It is the cornerstore of innovation and is known worldwide.

Zirconium product manufacturing within AREVA: A strategic element for its customers and the whole nuclear fuel industry [pdf]

A delay in forensics? Intelligence officers from the British Embassy in Paris are said to have been at the scene of the murder hours after it happened. According to the French TV station Demain, locals described embassy staff as being 'military types' and numbering around 20.

Amnesia and Gaza Genocide

by Oui (Oui) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 01:40:28 PM EST
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See article in The Guardian, 10 bullet casings were found under the BMW Estate. This determines the first  shooting took place where cyclist was killed.
For an update of the Annecy murders see my diary @BooMan.

Amnesia and Gaza Genocide
by Oui (Oui) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 01:50:24 PM EST
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It is indeed possible that the target was the cyclist and the family were innocent bystanders.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 02:25:43 PM EST
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There are no innocent bystanders. There are targets and there is collateral damage.

That is all.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 02:53:18 PM EST
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Innocent bystanders is what collateral damage is called when it's somebody we don't like that's inflicting it.

And vice versa.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 05:15:15 PM EST
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I'm an innocent bystander, you're collateral damage, he was asking for it.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 9th, 2012 at 04:43:05 AM EST
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The cyclist was a metalworker at a factory not far away in Savoie. His greatest pleasure was getting away on his bike on the mountain roads. Strange target.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 04:46:02 PM EST
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See my comment above. Sylvain Mollier works at Areva subsidiary Cézus in the nuclear industry. Areva just landed a big contract to supply UAE with enriched uranium and is already linked to Iran in the past.

Amnesia and Gaza Genocide
by Oui (Oui) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 05:16:49 PM EST
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Source for the Iran reference?  Even given U.S. hypocrisy, I would have thought they had too large a presence in the U.S. to risk.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Sep 9th, 2012 at 03:52:09 AM EST
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The guy was a worker, not a physicist. He was crazy about cycling, especially on mountain roads. There's nothing special about him, no motive for him to be involved in espionage.

BTW, it's not true that workers at Cézus have been prohibited from talking to the press - there are accounts from journalists talking to them in the French press (even the one you link to on BooMan is full of quotes - they're just not out of the ordinary), also with the mayor of the town of Ugine, but they are of course just the usual expressions of shock, sadness, etc. There's a certain amount of discretion, and his family doesn't want the media around, but there's nothing extraordinary about that.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 9th, 2012 at 04:42:16 AM EST
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Your BooTrib diary title referring to a "French Nuclear Scientist" and Mossad is highly comical.

...blah blah nuclear scientists blah blah secret plans blah blah...

LOL

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 10th, 2012 at 02:43:57 AM EST
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The murder took up the first 15 mn of the evening news in France last night. Draghi's actions, the next 4. Priorities, priorities...

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:41:11 AM EST
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Scores die as refugee boat sinks off Turkey | News | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

At least 58 people refugees have drowned after their boat sank close to the coast of Turkey. About half of the dead appear to be children.

Officials said on Thursday that dozens of survivors, mostly from Iraq and Syria, had swum to shore, only 50 meters (165 feet) away from the boat.

The website of the newspaper Hurriyet and Turkish television reported, however, that 58 people had also died.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:17:35 PM EST
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German citizens seek stronger voice | Germany | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

It's usually political parties which decide policy. But initiatives emerging from direct democracy are becoming ever more popular, particularly at the local level.

Local politicians don't always do what their constituents want - whether it's about building bypasses, power lines, wind turbines or setting the level of local taxes. Citizens used to have to wait until the next election rolled around to do anything about it. But in 1956, one German state made it possible for citizens to submit petitions to hold local referendums. Since then, they've spread across the country and have influenced many local government decisions.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:20:56 PM EST
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EU court affirms asylum for religious persecution | Europe | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

The European Court of Justice has decided that those who are unable to practice their religion openly are entitled to claim asylum. The ruling is expected to have an influence on German asylum law.

The European Court of Justice has ruled that people who are persecuted in their home countries for religious reasons have a right to apply for asylum in Europe. If their personal rights are "gravely" infringed, they must be awarded asylum status. The court's decision confirmed the ruling of a German court.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:26:40 PM EST
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EUobserver.com / Institutional Affairs / Strasbourg travelling circus must go on, says EU court advisor
BRUSSELS - The European Court of Justice was accused of being out of touch after its top advisor insisted that the European Parliament could not scrap its monthly plenary sessions in Strasbourg.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:52:20 PM EST
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Are Norwegians better peace negotiators? - DIPLOMACY-NORWAY - FRANCE 24

This week the world learned that Norway's foreign ministry was behind months of secret diplomacy to get the government of Colombia and the FARC guerrilla group to finally sit down for peace talks. Relatively little is known about the forthcoming Colombian peace process, but the two parties have confirmed that negotiations will begin in Oslo in mid-October, and then move to Cuba sometime later.

During the past 30 years Norway has become synonymous with peace brokering. Indeed, its peacemaking efforts picked up speed after the Cold War, with the Scandinavian country taking the lead in ending armed conflicts of different intensities in the Middle East, Central America and Africa throughout the 1990s.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:55:26 PM EST
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Eurointelligence Daily Briefing: Draghi's Big Bazooka causes outrage in Germany
Mario Draghi's announcement of Outright Monetary Transactions caused a big rally in the financial markets, with bonds, stocks and the euro all up; the programme will be unlimited; buying will focus on bonds with one-to-three year maturity; pari passu will be guaranteed through legislation; OMT will be conditional on either a full EFSF/ESM programme, a pre-cautionary programme with primary market bond purchases; governing council will have full discretion to determine when conditions have been met; ECB will provide a transparent breakdown of its purchases; Jens Weidmann votes No, and is quoted by the Bundesbank as condemning the decision as monetary financing of debt; Die Welt has the headline: "Financial markets cheer the death of the Bundesbank", as  the reaction in Germany was one of outrage; Holger Stelzner writes that the dividing line between fiscal and monetary policy has disappeared; he said the German constitutional court can still stop this; Marc Beise says it is wrong for Draghi to risk everything to save the euro; Nikolaus Blome says inflation will come with a delay; the FT's editorial speaks of Draghi's audacious gamble; 54% of Germans want the Constitutional Court to ban the ESM; the parliamentary leader of the German Greens says Draghi's decision implies a default on Germany's credit guarantees; Mario Monti welcomes the plan, but says Italy won't need a bailout; Fabrizio Goria says Italy will get a bailout, but one subject to soft surveillance; in other news: Silvio Berlusconi is considering to support Monti after the 2013 elections; Italy is rethinking its ban on off-shore drilling in the search for new tax revenues; the Spanish indignados hold a big demonstration in front of a heavily protected German embassy in Madrid; Francois Hollande will give a speech to the court of auditors today, in which he is expected to outline how the debt brake is likely to work in practice; the Greek coalition partners insist they want a say in the programme; the neo-fascist Greek Golden Dawn party has come third in the polls; Angela Merkel and Mariano Rajoy, meanwhile, held a summit with no visible purpose whatsoever.


If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:58:38 AM EST
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The reaction from Germany was one of outrage.

At the press conference, Draghi said that one member vote No - no prizes for guessing who. Draghi said different central banks expressed different views, but all converged to this policy. As reported by Frankfurter Allgemeine and others, a Bundesbank spokesman quoted him as saying that he rejected the OMT on the grounds that it was too close to monetary financing, and that they would risks for taxpayers.

The FT's editorial headline says: Mr Draghi's audacious gamble. The comment said that the SMP fell short for technical reasons, which the OMT has fixed. But it warned that the heavy lifting has yet to be done. Italy and Spain still have to apply for a programme. And the process of closer integration remains subject to political risks.

While the non-German press seemed mostly impressed, the Germans went on a verbal rampage.

Holger Stelzner writes in Frankfurter Allgemeine that the decision means a formal end of the separation between monetary and fiscal policy in Europe. The southern countries can now continue to amass at low interest rate, without having to worry about financial markets. The northern countries are also happy, not having to keep asking their parliaments for more money. He says the conditionality can never be applied in practice. Will the ECB stop buying bonds because Italy refuses to reforms its dismissal laws? He concludes with a reference to the German constitutional court, and wonders what the courts view on this policy will be?

Marc Beise, writing in Suddeutsche Zeitung, defends the Bundesbank. He said the truly bad aspects of Draghi's decision was that the ECB left no doubt that it wants the euro to survive (Yes, we, too, had to read that sentence twice.) He writes this is not a statement a central banker should make. This is for politicians. He says the ECB has crossed an important line with its decision, but it is not irreversible. They will not be able to save the euro against Germany.

Note that these are Germany's two most important newspapers, straddling a wide ranging of public opinion from the right (FAZ) to the centre-left (SZ).

Interestingly, Bild Zeitung was relatively more moderate than the "serious" newspapers. Nicolas Blome dressed up his commentary in a pseudo-factual Q&A, in which he says that inflation will come, of course, but not immediately.



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 05:08:28 AM EST
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Holger Stelzner writes in Frankfurter Allgemeine that the decision means a formal end of the separation between monetary and fiscal policy in Europe.

This is a bizarre statement, since the much vaunted conditionality was a linking of monetary action to fiscal (and indeed other) policy.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 07:16:16 AM EST
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Independence and not speaking outside your brief only goes one way.

On the other hand, yesterday there was a very good question to Draghi at the press conference: a journalist pointed out that the conditionality meant that the ECB would interrupt bond purchases if the Eurogroup declares a country is not keeping to its memorandum, and that's not "independence".

The issue really is that separating fiscal and monetary policy is impossible except in the fevered imagination of Hayekians. Friedmanites believe all you can do with fiscal policy you can do better with monetary policy, but they don't believe the two can be kept separate.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 08:59:24 AM EST
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means "out of reach of left-wing politicians, not all of which have been brought into the Consensus yet"...

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:40:22 AM EST
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"Note that these are Germany's two most important newspapers, straddling a wide ranging of public opinion from the right (FAZ) to the centre-left (SZ)."

That would be "centre-right (SZ)."

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 07:19:38 AM EST
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centrist in the political section, primitive neoliberal in the economic section.
by IM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 07:26:14 AM EST
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12% for the extreme-right? Minuscule by Neuro (FR, AT, NL, etc) standards...

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:39:16 AM EST
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"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 02:36:32 PM EST
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Jerome presumably intended to reply to this.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 02:38:54 PM EST
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FN is not the Chryssi Avgi analog, though. FN is the LAOS analog. Chryssi Avgi hit its head while it was tumbling down the rabbit hole.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:32:26 PM EST
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Fascist Golden Dawn comes  third in the polls

Greece's ultra-nationalist Golden Dawn party has increased its support among austerity-hit Greeks since entering parliament this year, and would emerge as the third largest party (10.5%) if elections were held now, a new poll showed on Thursday, Reuters reports. The poll showed support for the conservative New Democracy, which heads the country's pro-bailout coalition, had dipped to 25%  from 29.7%  in June, while backing for the radical leftist Syriza party also fell, by nearly 3 percentage points, to 24 %. The PASOK Socialists, junior partner in the ruling coalition, dropped to fourth place with 8% of the vote, while the other government ally, Democratic Left, saw support shrink nearly 2 percentage points to 4.5 %.

According to a survey by VPRC poll for the Ellada Avrio newspaper, SYRIZA is leading the polls with 30%, compared with 28% for the governing conservative New Democracy, while fascist Golden Dawn is polling at 12%.

The jobless rate, meanwhile, rose by a full percentage point to 24.4%  from 23.5% in the previous month, statistics service ELSTAT said on Thursday.

Well done, Europe.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 05:53:35 AM EST
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Eh, Hungary, Greece, who cares?

No war between France and Germany so far.

by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:16:35 AM EST
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@BerriePelser
Unique economic development programme - planning to create 2 Million jobs: http://goo.gl/ljJQU  - #DSEU - #jobs4Europe /@BerriePelser


If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 06:04:21 AM EST
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Digital Sunrise Europe: Unique economic development programme for a private initiative planning to create 2 million jobs (Press release)
Economic stimulation programmes are something you would expect from government - not any more.
Well, that is rather the problem, isn't it?
A group of nearly 300 independent executives, business owners, and social media consultants have joined forces to give small and medium-sized businesses in Europe an unexpected helping hand to overcome their economic challenges.

This newly formed group has done extensive research via crowdsourcing and created what they call an "alternative growth strategy", designed to help companies grow revenue by expanding their business across Europe. While low-cost producers from Asia and tech-savvy businesses from the US are expanding into Europe, the European midmarket, which is key to a stable economy, is not ready to withstand global competition. The group announced today the formation of "Digital Sunrise Europe", which will start offering mostly free education and support services to businesses across Europe from the beginning of October 2012.

What started with a keynote presentation by Axel Schultze to the European Commission during the Digital Agenda Assembly conference in June 2012 has now taken on a life of its own. In preparation for the EC presentation, Schultze assembled a team of over 100 social media savvy volunteers to conduct research about the prevalence of social media in Europe.



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 06:06:07 AM EST
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The group announced today the formation of "Digital Sunrise Europe", which will start offering mostly free education and support services to businesses across Europe from the beginning of October 2012.

The devil is in "support services" because education on this matter isn't that hard to get or that expensive. What's hard is getting the capital for expansion on sane terms.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 07:18:42 AM EST
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EUObserver: Euroscepticism in decline, poll indicates


BRUSSELS - Euroscepticism is receding amongst Europeans who also want EU lawmakers to promote job creation and welfare schemes ahead of debt reduction,according to a poll published Thursday (6 September).

According the eurobarometer poll, 40 percent reported a positive image of the EU, up 9 percent from the previous poll in November. Eurosceptic sentiment across the 27-country bloc has fallen from 26 percent to 23 percent. Meanwhile, 50 percent regard their country's EU membership as a positive thing compared to 31 percent of naysayers.

[...]

When asked about policies they would like to see pursued at EU level 44 percent of interviewees said that a more harmonised social welfare system would "strengthen (their) feeling of being a European citizen"



luis_de_sousa@mastodon.social
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]protonmail[dot]ch) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:09:13 AM EST
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This article should be front paged, IMHO. It shows clearly how the anglo-american media is trying to create a false image of Europe.

luis_de_sousa@mastodon.social
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]protonmail[dot]ch) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:10:29 AM EST
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Diary, and ye shall be frontpaged.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:19:40 AM EST
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I take it "harmonised" here means the opposite of when VSP use the word?
by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:18:35 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 01:58:15 PM EST
ECB to revamp bond-buying program | Business News | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

The European Central Bank has unveiled an emergency bond-buying program aimed at helping bring down high borrowing costs for debt-laden eurozone members. But "strict conditions" are attached to the aid.

ECB President Mario Draghi said the program - termed Outright Monetary Transactions - would have no set limit and be a "fully effective backstop" to prevent borrowing costs from rising.

In addition, Draghi indicated that the ECB would target government debt with relatively short maturities, presumably between two to three years.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:13:58 PM EST
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EUobserver.com / Economic Affairs / ECB to buy Spanish bonds, but with strings attached

BRUSSELS - The European Central Bank on Thursday (6 September) announced an "unlimited" bond-buying programme once governments apply for eurozone financial assistance with strict conditions and supervision.

"The Governing Council today decided on the modalities for undertaking Outright Monetary Transactions (OMTs) in secondary markets for sovereign bonds in the euro area," ECB chief Mario Draghi said in a press conference after chairing the council of eurozone's central bank governors.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:29:44 PM EST
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Greek unemployment hits record as austerity bites deeper | Business News | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

Official unemployment in Greece spiked 1.0 percent in June as the slump in the debt-laden eurozone country has accelerated. Although one in four Greeks is without work, new austerity is in the pipeline.

The jobless rate in Greece jumped to 24.4 percent in June, according to data released by the country's statistics service on Thursday, as an additional 50,000 people lost their jobs in that month.

The rise by almost a full percentage point compared with the previous month of May means that more than 1.2 million Greeks were unemployed - close to a quarter of the nation's entire workforce, and 358,000 more than in June 2011.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:16:43 PM EST
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24-hour Lufthansa strike on Friday | News | DW.DE | 05.09.2012

The German airline Lufthansa says it will cancel two-thirds of its flights on Friday after the union for cabin crew called for a 24-hour strike. The airline says no peace offer will be made over the ongoing pay dispute.

The Independent Flight Attendants' Organization (UFO) called the action on Wednesday, one day after its members staged eight-hour walkouts at three key German airports.

An airline spokesman says that 600 of Friday's 1,800 scheduled Lufthansa flights would be conducted by "partner airlines" not affected by the strike. The airline has asked for German railways to fill in for it on domestic routes.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:17:54 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 01:58:29 PM EST
South African miners turn down deal | News | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

A deal to end the miners' strikes in South Africa is yet to be agreed, with a key union refusing to come back to work. The miners want a pay rise, but their employers refuse to discuss it until after an accord is signed.

Key players in the South African miners' strike movement have turned down a deal to end demonstrations, a worker representative and intermediary said on Thursday.

Some unions backed a peace agreement with mining firm Lonmin to return to work at the company's strike-hit Marikana platinum mine and cease demonstrations. But non-unionized workers and the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (AMCU), an influential union, whose cooperation is imperative to ending the dispute, have refused the deal as it stands.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:17:04 PM EST
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Lonmin, unions sign South Africa mine peace deal - SOUTH AFRICA - FRANCE 24

REUTERS - Lonmin and unions representing mineworkers at the strike-hit Marikana platinum mine in South Africa have signed an accord for a return to work, but a militant breakaway union was not part of the deal, union officials said on Thursday.

The fact that the militant Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (AMCU) had not signed last night's accord left questions about how many striking miners at Marikana would in fact heed the agreement and go back to work.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:57:59 PM EST
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'Gap between Europe and US must not get wider' | World | DW.DE | 06.09.2012
The General Secretary of the German Social Democrats, Andrea Nahles, is at the Democratic National Convention. She's rooting for Obama and warns that a President Romney could drive Europe and the US apart.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:19:16 PM EST
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She should be worried about Europe driving itself apart.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 08:19:08 AM EST
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German Atlanticists...

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:02:08 AM EST
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'Tunisia is in a phase full of contradictions' | World | DW.DE | 06.09.2012
Yadh Ben Achour is the winner of the 2012 International Democracy Award Bonn. The Tunisian lawyer and expert on constitutional law told Deutsche Welle how Islamist forces are gaining strength in his country.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:20:00 PM EST
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Pakistan and Germany commit to strategic dialogue | Asia | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

Germany's foreign minister has said Afghanistan will not be forgotten after 2014 and that Pakistan was a crucial ally. He met his Pakistani counterpart in Berlin to set up a road map for closer political cooperation.

As NATO troops prepare to withdraw from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, the question of how to stabilize the war-torn country and build up a democracy is increasingly pressing. The international community particularly wants to prevent the country from once again becoming a base for terrorism.

And Pakistan is crucial, as German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle pointed out in talks with his Pakistani counterpart Hina Rabbani Khar on Tuesday in Berlin.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:21:20 PM EST
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New scandal rocks Chinese leadership | Asia | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

A new scandal is causing trouble for China's top party members. The risque details have brought to light the power struggle taking place behind closed doors and the luxurious lives of the party elites and their families.

At first the story was only about fast cars, money and sex. More precisely it was about an accident involving a black Ferrari last March, about a dead playboy and two heavily injured young women who were either completely naked or scantily clad - no one knows for sure.

However, since word got out a few days ago about who was driving the car, the story has become political.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:22:46 PM EST
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I wonder how long it will be before the Chinese leadership is a total laughing stock.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 12:03:09 PM EST
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Save the Children's foreign staff told to leave Pakistan - PAKISTAN - FRANCE 24

REUTERS - Pakistan is expelling foreign staff of the Save the Children aid group, an agency official said on Thursday, a decision apparently linked to government suspicion the charity helped U.S. spies hunting Osama bin Laden.

The Interior Ministry had told the aid group that its six foreign employees had to be out of Pakistan within two weeks, said Ghulam Qadri, the group's director for programme planning and communications.

The ministry gave no reason for the decision, he said. Interior Ministry officials were not immediately available for comment.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:56:54 PM EST
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One year after Gaddafi's downfall, Benghazi hit by mounting violence | The Observers
A little more than one year after former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's downfall, a string of attacks have rattled the country's eastern city of Benghazi, also known as the "cradle of the revolution". The surge in violence has prompted local authorities to take tight control of all communication, leaving many in the city feeling helpless.   The most recent attack took place on Benghazi's Gamal Abdel-Nasser Avenue - one of the city's busiest streets - on September 2, when a bomb planted in the car of a Libyan intelligence official exploded, killing him and injuring his passenger. The blast came just one day after a former national holiday celebrating the day Gaddafi took power, prompting government authorities to place the country on high alert over fears of additional violence.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:57:28 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 01:58:48 PM EST
China criticizes EU solar dumping probe | News | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

The EU has decided to investigate allegations that Chinese solar firms are dumping their wares in Europe. China has promptly articulated its opposition to the move.

China expressed its "deep regret" on Thursday over the European Commission's decision to look into allegations that Chinese producers are guilty of solar panel dumping.

Chinese Ministry of Commerce spokesman Shen Danyang passed comment after Brussels announced on Wednesday that the Commission would investigate the issue following complaints from European solar companies.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:15:19 PM EST
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I used to know somebody in that game and, although he used to sell a lot of chinese solar stuff, in his opinion about their build quality was that it was rubbish.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 12:07:26 PM EST
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Minister calls for German debate on fracking | News | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

Germany's environment minister has called for wider public debate on gas extraction through the practice of fracking. Opponents fear it could have environmental consequences.

The gas extraction process of fracking should only be allowed to take place in Germany under strict conditions, according to a new report presented by the country's Federal Environmental Agency (UBA) on Thursday.

"The Federal Environment Agency, on the basis of this report, recommends
that, for now, we should refrain from large-scale use [of fracking]," UBA President Jochen Flasbarth said in Berlin on Thursday.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:18:45 PM EST
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Gone with the wind: Obama's green credentials | Transatlantic Voices | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

One of President Obama's key electoral pledges in 2008 was a commitment to tackle environmental issues. Four years later, little to nothing has happened - and is unlikely to anytime soon, writes Sascha Müller-Kraenner.

When President Obama was elected four years ago, his platform promised to put the environment at the top of an agenda to revitalize the economy at home and America's standing abroad. Looking back after four years, the record is mixed. Ambitions for the next four years are much more modest.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:19:37 PM EST
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North Sea island becomes living climate lab | Environment | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

Jellyfish and chips? Climate change is bringing new species to a warming North Sea. While cod and shrimps move northwards, exotic immigrants are changing the ecosystem and the food chain.

Heligoland is a tiny island edged with red sandstone cliffs, 70 kilometers (43 miles) off the German coast. It offers a window into how climate change is affecting North Sea ecosystems.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:25:55 PM EST
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France expects lowest grape yield in two decades - FRANCE - FRANCE 24

French wine producers expect this year's grape yield to be the lowest in almost 20 years, as a result of exceptionally bad spring and early summer weather.

The harvest is being gathered in the coming weeks in what the French call "les vendanges", a highlight of the country's agricultural calendar.

But a mixture of late frosts, heavy rain throughout the spring and early summer, and higher than usual levels of mildew on the vines means that in some regions, especially in central France, the yield is expected to be down by as much as 20 percent from last year.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:55:53 PM EST
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George Osborne tries again to free up Green Belt land for housing - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

George Osborne provoked a backlash from environmental groups yesterday by promising to allow more building in the Green Belt as part of a new "go-for-growth" strategy.

As MPs return to Westminster today after their summer break, the Chancellor unveiled measures aimed at jump-starting the economy but at the same time stuck to his deficit-reduction strategy. David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Mr Osborne will make a series of announcements over the next two weeks in what will be seen as yet another relaunch by the Government. The centrepiece will be a plan to guarantee up to £10bn of new housebuilding by housing associations and private developers, and there could be more help for first-time buyers.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 03:02:52 PM EST
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How is this different from "government stimulus in the building sector?"
What am I missing?
by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:28:14 AM EST
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Emphasis added.

Jeff Masters:  Half of the polar ice cap is missing: Arctic sea ice hits a new record low

Extraordinary melting of sea ice in the Arctic this summer has shattered the all-time low sea ice extent record set in September 2007, and sea ice continues to decline far below what has ever been observed. The new sea ice record was set on August 26, a full three weeks before the usual end of the melting season, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. Every major scientific institution that tracks Arctic sea ice agrees that new records for low ice area, extent, and volume have been set. These organizations include the University of Washington Polar Science Center (a new record for low ice volume), the Nansen Environmental & Remote Sensing Center in Norway, and the University of Illinois Cryosphere Today. A comprehensive collection of sea ice graphs shows the full story. Satellite records of sea ice extent date back to 1979, though a 2011 study by Kinnard et al. shows that the Arctic hasn't seen a melt like this for at least 1,450 years (see a more detailed article on this over at skepticalscience.com.) The latest September 5, 2012 extent of 3.5 million square kilometers is approximately a 50% reduction in the area of Arctic covered by sea ice, compared to the average from 1979 - 2000. The ice continues to melt, and has not reached the low for this year yet.

No idea this means for the winter Arctic and North Atlantic Oscillations.  As a guess the Nordics need to be ready for some major snow this winter.

 

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 05:39:33 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:01:27 PM EST
'Newtopia' exhibition tackles human rights | Art & Architecture | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

In a small Belgian town with a dark history, 70 international artists have positioned jarring works on human rights. The temporary show is a prelude to a permanent Human Rights Museum set to open in a former Nazi camp.

The small town of Mechelen in Dutch-speaking Belgium has big plans. Not only is its long-planned Human Rights Museum slated to open its doors in November, but an exhibition currently taking place throughout the city also focuses on one of the most important issues of our time.

"Newtopia: The State of Human Rights" is a cooperation with Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch and brings together the works of 70 international artists who share their perspectives on the world's governments.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:20:28 PM EST
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What's the plan for the gift shop?
Or is this one of those socialist, government funded museae?
by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:30:10 AM EST
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Ex-Soviet soldier considers himself a 'proud Afghan' | Asia | DW.DE | 06.09.2012

Noor Mohammad is one of dozens of Soviet soldiers who went over to enemy lines in Afghanistan. Today, he has an Afghan wife and six children. He never wants to go back to Russia.

"I came to Afghanistan to fight, to serve my country as a soldier," says Siberian-born Noor Mohammad. "I didn't know my government was killing people here and that's what my task would be."

"Either you kill or you are killed. That's what being a soldier means," he says in Dari.

He explains, not without a touch of pride, that things were different then, back in the 1980s when he was still known as Sergei Yurevich Krasnoperov and the Soviet Union was a mighty world power.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:23:50 PM EST
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Huh...What about Americans in Vietnam...and Afghanistan is next in line for USA solders too.
So this kind of is not news...for Americans too.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:10:56 AM EST
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"I didn't know my government was killing people here and that's what my task would be."

My speech is positively Eastwood-esque on trying to respond to that. (As in "disjointed and rambling", not the cool version.)

by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:34:29 AM EST
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Estonian first graders to learn computer code - FRANCE 24

AFP - Tech-savvy Estonia has launched a project encouraging public schools to teach pupils, including first graders, to write computer code, the project's authors said Thursday.

Ave Lauringson from the Tiger Leap Foundation said the project was set up to counter the dwindling number of computer lessons being given in many Estonian schools.

The "teaching materials for all grade levels are almost compiled by now and the interest of schools wishing to join the project since we launched it this week increases every day," Lauringson said.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:54:58 PM EST
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Cool. Ten-year olds will be able to discuss the relative merit of programming languages.

Basic(/Pascal) sucks!
Go Smalltalk(/Python)!
Prolog(/lisp) you say? Go sit over there.

by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:37:12 AM EST
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If they can handle Estonian, surely they should be able to program in INTERCAL.....
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:25:46 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:01:43 PM EST
Hot tubs: Ben & Jerry's sues US hardcore porn company Ben & Cherry's for smearing ice cream maker's reputation - Americas - World - The Independent

Ben & Jerry's sued the maker of "Ben & Cherry's" X-rated DVDs Wednesday, saying the "hardcore pornographic" films have smeared the ice cream maker's reputation.

The trademark lawsuit in US District Court in Manhattan said the sale of hardcore and exploitive pornographic DVDs and related goods is tarnishing Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.'s name by creating an association with pornography. It said the claims arise from the distribution and sale of a series of DVDs containing "exploitative, hardcore pornographic films" featuring titles and themes based on "well-known and iconic" Ben & Jerry's ice cream flavors as well as packaging that contains key company features such as a grazing cow, green grass and large white puffy clouds. 

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 02:59:57 PM EST
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With names like these, Ben & Jerry were surely asking for it:

Karamel Sutra
Red Velvet Cake
Cinnamon Buns
Chunky Monkey
Coffee Caramel Buzz
Chubby Hubby
Cheesecake Brownie
Banana Split
Boston Cream Pie
Everything But The...

The one I'm curious to see is Dublin Mudslide.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 08:14:09 AM EST
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Last one could be shot in Cleveland ...
by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 10:37:55 AM EST
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It's not often these days I get time to visit the Aalto-designed Academic Book Store, the largest in Scandinavia. In each section - spread over 3 floors - the staff know their section well, and are always ready to give advice, track stuff not in stock (rare), or just chat.

I found a couple of useful items, and also this (NYT review):

Free Ride by Robert Levine.

"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money," Samuel Johnson declared. As the Internet is destroying the business model that has historically supported high-quality journalism, movies, music and television, the conventional wisdom in Silicon Valley is that Johnson was wrong. "Information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower," technology activists have insisted, selectively quoting the technology thinker Stewart Brand. (In fact, Brand said in the same 1984 speech that on the other hand, "information wants to be expensive, because it's so valuable.") According to the worldview embodied by Google and Facebook and many of the best minds in the legal academy and public-­interest community, the culture business is collapsing because the old-style media executives who run Hollywood, cable television, the record companies and newspapers have failed to adjust to the expectations of a demanding new generation of media consumers who want free movies and books and music and news wherever and whenever they're online.

I'm probably going to disagree with a lot of it, but while I have been influenced by Lessig, I'm also a copyright holder myself. So I'm interested in all the arguments, pro and con.

But the theoretical arguments somewhat pale beside the fact that digital parasitism is with us on a massive scale, an entire generation post-93 has grown up thinking it the norm, it can't be easily prevented, and it will permanently change the culture landscape. But how, nobody really knows.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 07:52:06 AM EST
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The other books were a fun one on etymology*, and Chomsky's 'Making the Future'.

*That's going in the throne room.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 07:55:23 AM EST
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people remain willing to pay for good advice, even if it can be fond online.

Press releases will become ever harder to sell (and that's a problem for a lot of media, because their business model had slowly turned to user ever fewer journalists and thus forcing them to rely on pre-digested input from their sources), but genuine - and quality -  analysis will be ever more valuable.

Funnily enough, reputation ill matter again, but it may not necessarily be the reputation gained in pre-internet ages.

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 08:33:47 AM EST
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See also.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:29:20 AM EST
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Good newspapers like the FT and Le Monde are no longer scared to link to outside sources. I agree with your linked comment (from 2009) that it's always been one of the most annoying things in newspaper articles that they did not link to the underlying sources - and in particular to studies - they were commenting upon - leading people like me going to Google for the source and no longer bothering with the newspaper after that...
.

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:49:57 AM EST
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Marketing is already turning into Reputation management. It's no longer possible to sustain a fictitious narrative unless you can control the channels by which brands are displayed. And rep management becomes reactive.

But this is a natural outflow of the strategic shift in so many companies to the UX, or User Experience. Consumer, business-to-business, it's all the same trend. What these companies don't realize is that a shift to the UX not only affects the marketing department (the bit that interfaces production with consumption), but the whole organization.

And ultimately the UX, and thus the organization, becomes driven by consumption. Politics has already made this change. Consumption-driven industrial production, i.e. the corporation provides only the products and services that consumer demands, is still on its way.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 01:15:47 PM EST
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I think it simply turns art into digital sharecropping.

A tiny core of manufactured and/or 15-minute celebs will continue to dominate the download markets. A shrinking group of tech and creative specialists will continue to support them.

There will be occasional exceptions, like the odd geek cartoonist, superstar app designer, or marketing genius who happens to write and sell cheesy porn fiction.

Everyone else who creates 'content' will have to fit it in between the two other day jobs they do to pay the bills.

The most realistic way to make money - if you're not in finance - is to be an aggregator, not a creator. That way you can hustle everyone else's ad revenue and get them to create content for you without paying them, with the promise that they're 'gaining exposure'. (Or in terminal cases, 'building their brand.')

But not even goliaths like Cheezburger are doing all that well. And has YouTube ever made any money for Google?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:10:14 AM EST
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Sounds about right. (Does anyone else really dislike the word "content"?)

Cheezburger published a physical book. Not sure who the target audience is. I guess people will still pay for having someone make decisions on selection.

Read something about that being the future role of libraries: "we have checked and these books, among the billions available for free, are worth you time."

by Number 6 on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 11:37:32 AM EST
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Content: n, the stuff that goes between your ads.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 12:10:43 PM EST
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I think there are three distinct, but not completely unrelated problems here:

  • First, there are too many hobbyists who are too good at making art, and who like to share it. This undercuts the ability of specialists to get the casual art user (for whom hobby grade is good enough) to subsidize the professionalism required to provide, well, professional art.

  • Second, people spend a relatively fixed amount of money on art, and advertising revenue is not necessarily sufficient to let someone make a living. Lower the barriers to entry, and more people will be trying to make a living from the same pool of cash. Worse, lower the barriers to entry enough that the hobbyists can play too, and you get a number of people draining money out of the market who aren't even trying to make a living - they're just getting a nice bonus.

  • Third, artists have largely failed to (develop and) communicate a business model which lets you feed the artist but not the heavy-handed, thuggish middlemen at IFPI, RIAA, et al, who have a very deservedly poor brand among the artists' ultimate customers.

The first and second are a technological change in market conditions. They won't go away, so if we want to keep the professional artist we are likely to need government sponsorships or subsidies of some sort. But the third point is somewhere artists and customers of professional art could take immediate action.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 12:20:52 PM EST
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William Morris posed the question back in 1880 thusly: what is "Art" under mass reproduction in a culture insisting "Art" is singular?

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 01:18:45 PM EST
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You're not going to go all Pre-Raphaelite on me? For me, the first to make unsponsored* mass art (or capable of reproduction) was Hokusai (1760 -  1849).

* unfunded by the power elite

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 02:08:47 PM EST
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And why not?

Japanese wood block printing started a global trend reaching to the Graphic Novels and etc.* of 2012.  Is it A Model?  I dunno.  The East is more willing to accept the fact "Art" is not, necessarily, singular; in their eyes a "Copy" provoking the same esthetic response is, in some sense, "the same thing" as an original.  In Western eyes a "Copy" is ersatz, thus Not-Art.

Morris, et. al., basically failed - IMO - to overcome that prejudice.  Partially because the manufacturing technology didn't allow "hand-crafted items of beauty" to be mass-produced.  Gustav Stickley, in the US, did a bit better but ran aground from bad decision making.  MackIntosh managed to keep his business afloat by staying at the High End. And so on and so forth.

Art Deco and then Nordic Modern came along with design esthetics more in accordance with mass production and wiped 'em out.

* Including some ... um ... "graphic" genres  ;-)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 02:53:15 PM EST
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The Pre-Raph interest in the vernacular is probably their most important legacy, and ultimately a tributary to Pop Art aka investigating the involuntary decoration of the environment. Basically anti-machine, or humanising machines.

Deco and Bauhaus (and lesser movements such as vorticism) embraced the machine, and the language of the machine - leading ultimately to the form follows function of Nordic Modern.

So I'm agreeing with you ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:19:16 PM EST
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Though I think many modernists, including Aalto, can be put in the Form in spite of Function category. Alvar's chairs are uncomfortable.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:23:42 PM EST
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Yup.  Have to buy another chair so you can sit down and contemplate the beauty and craftsmanship of a designer chair.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 05:19:54 PM EST
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Youtube operates at a profit.  Google is the biggest aggregator there is - that's where most of their money comes from (and the ads that they sell in the process of aggregation).
by njh on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 12:35:23 PM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
A shrinking group of tech and creative specialists will continue to support them.

is that because as the tech gets better there's less of a need for support?

so many (insert software brand)-lite versions of name apps, a tendency to simplify UI's, these seem trends...

i guess in an age of specialisation there are a lot of dilettantes dabbling to unwind, sometimes with surprising quality.

the cartoon nefariousness of the art distribution channels pushes a lot of artists into hobby/therapy mode, similar to puttering in the garden or banging together inventions in the shed was for the last century.

dabblers creative time is more their own than art made to measure for commerce, in some ways more likely to be authentic.

 

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:21:27 PM EST
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... is that because as the tech gets better there's less of a need for support?

Yes.  

With digital grading, for example, the need for people to come in and optically "wash" or tint each film frame by hand is eliminated.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:16:15 PM EST
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"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money,"

My business model is to give away for free a lot of valuable information about offshore wind, because what we sell is how to use that information, not the information itself (even though it's quite valuable). Giving away good information is a good "loss leader".

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:51:37 AM EST
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There is a famous immigration lawyer in Spain that does the same thing.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 09:59:18 AM EST
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Data, Information, Knowledge, and Expertise are four different, intersecting, things.  Curiously, nobody seems to talk much about the last yet without it the first three are impotent.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 11:34:41 AM EST
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There's a huge anti-expertise movement in our culture at the moment.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 11:49:04 AM EST
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You'd be the "expert" on that, would you? You elitist.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 12:09:38 PM EST
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But, in the same way that a self-organizing system can be called both a system without a leader, and a system full of leaders, so anti-expertise can also be seen as the discovery that being creative is for everybody, not just an expert elite.

Isn't creativity, like democracy, equally for everyone?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 02:15:41 PM EST
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You, Sir, are an expert, even if you pretend that doesn't matter.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 02:41:33 PM EST
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Not really, but I am genuinely motivated to help other people to discover their creative talents - because I feel that childrens' 'natural creativity' (the joy of discovery, not limited to the arts) is largely beaten out of them by the modern education system.

The online world that so fascinates them is a replacement for the 'games' (or rehearsals) that appear to have an evolutionary social value - but are now often denied to them, except virtually.

The real world IS dangerous. The virtual world has, from the child's POV, fewer physical consequences. It's an easy choice.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:03:56 PM EST
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Sven Triloqvist:
because I feel that childrens' 'natural creativity' (the joy of discovery, not limited to the arts) is largely beaten out of them by the modern education system.

apparently when children are asked at 4-6 years old if they are creative almost all say yes.

when they get to 12 years old it's down to 5%.

great job schools!

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:27:45 PM EST
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Sven Triloqvist:
Not really, but I am genuinely motivated to help other people to discover their creative talents -

i agree, nothing so satisfying...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:31:29 PM EST
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Yeah, because 45 years in the media business doesn't make you an expert...

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:29:45 PM EST
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And it certainly doesn't make you into an idealist.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:33:53 PM EST
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"Anybody" can fling paint or cast bronze blobs.  There's only a couple of Jackson Pollacks and Henry Moores.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 02:57:34 PM EST
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Steady on! Play the white man...

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:19:52 PM EST
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?

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:54:24 PM EST
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BTW what happened to Ted?

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:22:21 PM EST
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No idea.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:53:02 PM EST
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In an age of easy mass replication and distribution The Unique becomes scarce, thus the sell.    

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 11:24:43 AM EST
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Distribution is entirely orthogonal to creativity.

I don't think mass distribution is any kind of issue, because art is about experiences, not objects.

The issue is the quality, persistence and social value of the experiences being produced.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 03:56:02 PM EST
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Distribution is not orthogonal to creativity. What we are seeing - which has never been seen on a large scale - is the rehearsal required to achieve competence.

Whereas, once, the violin scrapings of a 6 year old Menuhin were only heard by a teacher and a few indulgent relatives, they are now heard by everybody. The process of skill acquisition - a process full of mistakes and learning from mistakes - is no longer private. To appreciate such efforts requires the indulgence of a relative.

Quality, persistence and social value emerge from rehearsal, whether private or public.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:07:02 PM EST
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Well - what we're seeing is too many people who think distribution is creativity.

In fact creativity has never been healthier. There are more people doing more things with more tools for more reasons with more of an audience - albeit often a tiny one - than ever.

What's missing is expert non-market non-popular feedback for them, and some motivation to learn from it.

I doubt they even see it as rehearsal. Only an expert would think of it like that. ;)

Hence the issue is the quality and richness of experience being produced, rather than quantity - and often an emphasis on the peripherals of creativity rather than the roots.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:22:21 PM EST
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I agree. But quantity can also be seen as a driver of quality and richness.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 04:31:06 PM EST
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Not if quantity is mostly imitative.

If Hollywood produces endless craptacles - which is mostly what it's been doing the last decade or so - there isn't much room to make films like 2001 or Stalker.

My experience is that the difference between 'persistent' and 'gifted' is vast and probably unbridgeable. Some people are simply talented, and they have an intuitive relationship with a medium that gives them an unassailable edge that untalented creators can never copy, no matter how much work they produce.

It helps if they put the hours in to start with, but woodshedding on its own is never enough.

One of the criteria for me is originality. Sound-alikes and look-alikes and read-alikes can't imagine anything truly new so they're happy to imitate.

The high quality stuff comes out of nowhere. Even if it has traces of other work it's essentially unique and unexpected in a way that mediocre work isn't.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 06:27:34 PM EST
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You are ignoring audience and shared language - the antimatter of originality. I could come up with an entirely new language based on a self-invented vocabulary and structure. But nobody would understand me - though, like Klingon, the language could be laboriously learned (with inspirational motivation).

What I can do is neologize within an existing language in such a way that the meaning of a new word, although unfamiliar, can be guessed from context.

The use of any language whether literal, visual, numerical or even the language of design, requires that the infrastructure/context is already shared between would-be users of the language.

2001 was and is an innovative film. Before Kubrik, no-one had put together space technology and Strausses. But it wasn't a decision: Kubrik rejected the original score he had commissioned and instead used the placeholder classical music he's used in developing the visuals. Space tech was known to the late Sixties audience through the Apollo missions, and everyone had heard Strauss, but no-one had used them together. The concept of HAL - a highly intelligent  'robot' that turns out to be an anthropomorphic baddie - goes back in a long line of film to Metropolis.  And so on. The audience 'got it' because they already knew the story/infrastructure - but creatively the scenes were done so believably that the 'twist' was  acceptable

The two most original scenes are the ones that most people didn't 'get' at the time: the descent to Jupiter, and the Louis XVI terminal scene. Of course most stoners and trippers 'got' the descent - a shamanic transformation into another world with a different 'truth'. The terminal scene is Rorschach - it can only be interpreted by what has gone before.

High quality stuff doesn't come out of nowhere. High quality stuff depends on its audience. What you are really saying is that audiences today are not good enough ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 05:41:36 AM EST
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That's not originality in the sense I meant it. Because art is about experience you don't create originality as a technical exercise - you create it by producing experiences that are powerful, new and unique.

2001 is a lot more than a mash-up of stuff that was lying around at the time. HAL is a lot more than a 'baddie' because HAL is a morally ambiguous character that's part appalling, part tragic, and part sympathetic.

The imagery is a lot more than conventional Hollywood sci-fi imagery. There are no bubble-headed helmets with little radio aerials sticking out the top, and no rockets with tail fins driven from cabins with mechanical dials - all of which were staples when 2001 was being planned.

I'm fairly sure no one had ever made a film about black monoliths before - especially not one that almost ends in a hotel room.

You could make a list of things that no one had ever done before in a film, and it wouldn't be short.

Being influenced by stuff that's lying around and combining it it new ways is not enough. Originality only exists when the total experience is novel and sui generis.

Now - you can imitate 2001 by copying the imagery (most SF did, one way or another) but it's much less common to copy the creative process and use it to produce an equally original result.

So you can certainly make art in someone else's groove. But it's a lot more fun when people don't. And when art is plain imitation with very little originality, the results aren't usually all that interesting.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 08:50:36 AM EST
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Yehudi Menuhin performed at 7 with the San Francisco Symphony orchestra.
As a violinist who despite 150 concerts never had a prayer of within a year performing with such a prestigious orchestra, I shiver at the word "scrapings" for the 6 years old Menuhin.

By the way, at 6 it was probably not just parents and one teacher who had heard him. And indulgence would not have been required in any great proportions.

OK, that's probably irrelevant to the argument ;-)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 03:09:21 AM EST
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Sven's point is probably valid, if you replace "seven" by "three".....
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 04:55:54 AM EST
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Actually I was talking about Moishe Menuhin, but never mind ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 05:43:03 AM EST
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His attitude to Zionism would probably have kept the media away from him these days....
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 08:14:11 AM EST
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I can only reply - with the addition of an exclamation mark - by the title of Golda Meir's autobiography ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 8th, 2012 at 08:26:45 AM EST
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Counter-blast to a homophobic bigot.

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo has spoken out in favor of a Maryland ballot initiative that would legalize gay marriage. Yahoo has published a letter that Maryland state delegate Emmett C. Burns Jr. wrote last week to Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti, urging him to "inhibit such expressions from your employee." This is Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe's response to Burns.

Enjoy.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 7th, 2012 at 08:53:17 PM EST
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