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by In Wales Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:55:56 AM EST

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:56:28 AM EST
Ooh yessss.

Just piled an open thread on yours, for the hell of it.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:58:28 AM EST
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As if it weren't entirely clear that the welfare system under the Tories had become systemically vindictive

Liverpool Daily Post - Police called after welfare experts offer advice to disabled ahead of Atos sickness benefit assessments

POLICE were called by staff at a firm that assesses whether people are genuinely too ill to work - after a councillor stood outside their offices offering free advice to claimants as they arrived.

Workers at Atos - the company controversially employed by the government to make sure everyone claiming incapacity deserves their benefits - contacted the force because of a "demonstration" going on at Mann Island.

But police just found two men handing out leaflets and no sign of a demonstration.

Wirral councillor Joe Walsh, who is also chair of the network of Trade Unions Congress Unemployed Centres, and welfare advice expert Terry Craven said the incident happened after one claimant asked them if they would accompany him to his medical.

But the Atos staff are said to have refused to carry it out if either of them were there - even though claimants are allowed to take a friend in with them.



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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 01:21:25 PM EST
Liberal Conspiracy - Sunny hundal - Labour should pay attention to what Tom Watson just said on the economy

  "There was huge market failure in the finance and banking sector - everyone knows that - and we've not robustly said so. The truth is that in government we didn't sufficiently map out the contours of the mixed economy and put stakes in the ground about where the market can't go. We were frightened of dealing with some of those so-called great Thatcherite legacies, like liberalisation of the City, so we let the City grow out of control. And I don't know why we don't just say that. Why don't we just say that?" Might it be to do with protecting Ed Balls' reputation? "I don't know," he says, but doesn't sound entirely convincing. "I didn't do the economy, I was the coordinator."

    Watson fears Labour's unwillingness to admit they let the financial markets get out of control has cost them their economic credibility. "If we don't explain that properly, how can we argue that it's the reason the crisis took place in 2008? Our problem is that, in the absence of that explanation, people blame the 2008 crash on our profligate spending."

    Once Labour has admitted the reason for the crash, it could then offer a "distinctive economic programme" of investment to create jobs. "It's all about jobs. Not taking risks is not an option." Does Labour's current economic policy takes too few risks? "Yes, definitely. The country is in a crisis. If Labour's not going to give the bold solution, then who is?"

I agree with this so much my head hurts from all the nodding.

Yes please. Sunny is right to note that this got buried in amongst the revelations about what went on in Falkirk. But this would be welcome from the leadership, sadly there is no chance of such un-blairite recanting

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 01:27:23 PM EST
Liberal conspiracy - Sam Fowles - On social security, Labour should focus on `shared responsibility' not `fairness'

We're 21 months out from the General Election and thus far a potential Labour manifesto looks like Muller Lite to the Tories' Deluxe Corner - a bit better for me but unlikely to rock my world.

Nowhere is this more apparent than the Welfare debate - a catalogue of Labour surrenders based on one fundamental misconception: That public policy can or should be based on "fairness". In lackluster unison, the opponents of Iain Duncan Smith's reforms mumble that it is unfair that families with severely disabled kids should have their welfare income limited to £500 per week. Meanwhile the Tories thunder that it's not fair hardworking families should pay taxes so the unemployed can live on a higher income.

The trouble is; they're both right. But only because our public debate has reduced individuals in society to the level of rats escaping a fire; each trying to make sure that someone else's life is more unfair than ours. And Labour's just accepted it.

But public policy isn't about "fairness" or "unfairness", it's about responsibility.

An interesting view on how a simple change in presentation can overcome voter resistance

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 01:32:03 PM EST
Austrian brewer revives 300-year-old beer | The Raw Story

VIENNA (Reuters) - An Austrian brewery is offering beer lovers a trip back in time by reviving a 300-year-old recipe it found in the town archives.

The family-owned Hofstetten brewery in the Upper Austrian town of Saint Martin recreated the "Neuhauser Herrschafts Pier" from ingredients listed in an invoice for the local Neuhaus castle in 1720, when Austria was one of Europe's big powers.

Using small crops of emmer and malting barley grown from ancient seed varieties agricultural historians had preserved, owner Peter Krammer was able to reproduce the mix of barley, wheat and hops that marked the brew made three centuries ago.

"We thought that old kinds of grains must have more taste," he said, adding it took five tries before he was satisfied.

by Fran on Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 05:02:55 PM EST
Yes, it's one of those things that the large breweries would try to stamp out; grains which are inefficient at providing fermentable sugars often create nice flavours.

It's why, with the exception of guinness, every industrial global brand, is a light golden beers, made with pale malts (and/or sugar and/or rice). And they're tasteless.

Old varieties of barley also fall into this category. The preferred barley of the UK real ale industry, maris otter, dates from 1966. the global industry prefers even newer ones

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 02:49:46 AM EST
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Old varieties of grains are generally tastier, because the efforts of modern agriculture have gone into selection of cultivars that combine high yield with resistance to diseases. Flavour has not been a criterion.

Bread or pasta made with old varieties of wheat, for instance, can be surprisingly tasty.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 03:30:12 AM EST
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Link added to the Beer Blog.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 04:01:16 AM EST
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Ach crap. Now I'll have to research an article on barley. Sorry, been out of it since my bike crash, just tired all the time

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 08:18:49 AM EST
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This past weekend was the Pike's Peak Ascent and Marathon, where on Saturday 1600 people run up the mountain (from 2000 meters to 4300 meters) and then on Sunday 800 people run up and then back down. Some do both days.

So I spent my weekend about halfway up at 3500 meters elevation helping with various support tasks... gasp...

by asdf on Mon Aug 19th, 2013 at 11:03:46 PM EST
um I think I'll take the train thanks.

um is it possible on a mountain bike? (not sure if I want to know the answer...)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 03:53:51 AM EST
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Not me. I find rack and pinion train rides too uncomfortable.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 03:59:00 AM EST
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Sure, everybody in Colorado has a mountain bike, and we ride them everywhere! Even the homeless people.

You can ride up the runner's path (Barr Trail), but it is extremely difficult because there is not really much of a trail--there are huge rockfields at several points. You can now ride up the highway, which is paved all the way. Or you can take the train or a bus up to the top with your bike and then coast back down.

The Cog Railway is quite comfortable and entertaining, and clearly the best way to get to the top of the mountain. The cars are made in Switzerland. In winter, there's a good chance of seeing the snowblower in action.

http://cograilway.com/webcam.htm

by asdf on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:22:50 AM EST
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Hmmmm, I know for a fact that you hiked up Kehlstein, which is no tiny feat.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 11:43:18 AM EST
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Ah the pitter-patter of tiny feats! Coming soon to your place. OK for Sunday? Or are you looking at real estate on the Rhine?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 11:55:59 AM EST
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Dang it, was it THIS Sunday? We'll get back in the evening from the Rhine. Is it possible we could leave a key for you and you could stay for MONDAY lunch? How did I fail to calendar this?

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Aug 21st, 2013 at 08:18:16 AM EST
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Sweetie, don't sweat it. We'll do it another time.

(Scheduling isn't my strong point either. I just had a conversation with Elder Daughter, now in Pisa with the van. She thought she was coming home on Saturday. No, dear, we're in Munich on Saturday. You'll be here no later than Friday afternoon, ready for immediate departure. Oh and she's broken a window of the van. I'm almost relieved; something had to happen, and this is not a show-stopper)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Aug 21st, 2013 at 09:12:06 AM EST
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Can't help it, I'm crushed. I had such a wonderful time with y'all last time and I was really looking forward to meeting your S.O. We'll be moving a tad bit closer to you, most likely, so maybe we can make up for it then.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Aug 21st, 2013 at 04:42:42 PM EST
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It was also the local Marathon du Montcalm, recognized by the International Skyrunning Federation but obviously dwarfed by Pike's Peak. The highest point at 3,145m is the Pique d'Estats, highest summit in this part of France and of Catalonia (it's on the border).

The Catalans won as usual.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 03:57:47 AM EST
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