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by Helen Thu Sep 5th, 2013 at 02:29:43 PM EST

Just read this from Pete Brown


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Here's my brother-in-law's beer bottle collection. The collection includes over 3000 bottles, and is completely inventoried.

http://collect.shelburnemuseum.org/post/57514782229/beer-bottles-submitted-by-ruth-h-my-husband-has

by asdf on Wed Aug 7th, 2013 at 02:21:27 PM EST
Nice !!. I don't think I'm anywhere near that in terms of the number of different bottled beers I've drunk, but I'd like the opportunity :-))

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 8th, 2013 at 02:59:52 PM EST
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Would you? He may be the sort of person who drinks every lousy beer in sight just to add to his record.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Aug 8th, 2013 at 04:24:32 PM EST
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Ah, yes. there is that. We have the phenomenon of "beer tickers", scoopers and bottlers here and I'd hate to be mistaken for one of those

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 8th, 2013 at 05:04:06 PM EST
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Yes, that is the rule. If it has "beer" in it, it qualifies for this collection.
by asdf on Thu Aug 8th, 2013 at 10:47:16 PM EST
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Interesting article.  I was particularly fascinated with the little bit about the two shaped sugar bits and the lemon flavor - a real WTF moment.

I wonder if this stuff carries cross-culturally.

by Zwackus on Sat Aug 10th, 2013 at 02:39:16 AM EST
Pete Brown's Beer Blog: Flavour: there's a lot more to it than meets the eye. (Or tongue, or nose, or ears...)
I was worried I might be bringing the tone down by pairing the Pixies' Debaser with Duvel and simply saying, 'Good, innit?' (It is though - it really works!) 

Pixies, eh? I may give Duvel another try (I've never liked it, not sure why. Probably illustrates my shallowness as a beer drinker.)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Aug 12th, 2013 at 10:10:08 AM EST
I've gone off Duvel as well. Nowadays it seems to have a sherbet tang that I associate with sugar being added to the wort. This is done so that they can cut down on the (more expensive) malt to achieve the same alcohol level. Duvel lawyers please note that I'm not saying that's what's happening, but I can't shake the association.

i dont remember it tasting like that in the 80s, but I could be mistaken. I know I'm getting more sensitive to sugar flavours these days. I find Harvey's beers undrinkable for that reason now, yet they were once my favourite and I know they've not changed

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 15th, 2013 at 06:59:29 AM EST
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... hmm on the other hand, if we're all so suggestible, and if the big beer companies have all manner of chemical flavour enhancers at their disposal, why do all the popular brands taste like crap to me?

(Probably because I'm a snob, as befits my shallowness.)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Aug 12th, 2013 at 10:19:10 AM EST
Karma !! For my sins (snobbishness) I received an invitation tonight to have a beer with my stepson, in the pub over the road from the restaurant where he's working.

It's a "John Bull Pub". Well yeah, I would have run a mile but...  This appears to be an export-formula pub that you can find on five continents. To be fair, the staff were English, and I managed to chat about the cricket while watching the highlights of the 4th Ashes test which I have been following online over the past 4 days (comedy collapse by Australia, made my day). But the beer, my dear...

I started with a Young's London Stout, which was not bad, but didn't really float my boat. I was intending to try a Wells Bombadier next, it seemed the best bet with respect to my tastes, in the absence of any actual cask ale. Alas, my stepson insisted on buying me a "Wells banana bread beer".

It wasn't a bad beer, but the banana thing put me off it. As a thought experiment, cf. Pete Brown, I tried to imagine whether it would have tasted of banana if I hadn't known. I'm pretty sure it would; the dominant impression, in both nose and mouth, was the "banana" flavoured lollies of childhood, which contained only the specific chemically-produced "banana" ester. To my surprise, I find that the beer is made with real (fair trade) bananas. A waste of good bananas, for my money (or my stepson's).

But that's enough snobbishness for me (two pints being my limit on a week night) -- it was a fun evening anyway.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Aug 12th, 2013 at 06:44:46 PM EST
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Banana and cinnamon is a common smell in german wheat beers, so I'm not surprised somebody made a beer from it. That said, I'm not a fan of that beer and dislike Young's beers generally so I'm not going to speak in favour.

But I've been a snob about beer for ages, especially the idea of adding slices of citrus fruit to wheat beer. However, since I returned from Berlin with a bottle of wormwood syrup, I've been pouring that into my wheat beer like a demented thing and enjoying it considerably.

I simply cannot justify such behaviour under my previous snobberies, so I won't try. But it's nice, try it.


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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 15th, 2013 at 07:18:59 AM EST
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and it's luminous green as well, which brings out my inner 5 year old

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 15th, 2013 at 07:19:27 AM EST
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Open thread comments on beer flavour here.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 03:52:11 AM EST
I was just looking at Google News about beer, and there is so much beer news--most of it pretty disgusting, actually--that I'm thinking there should be a special section in the daily news summary just for beer. Sample:

A North Carolina law approved earlier this year will allow bottle shops, grocery stores and other retailers to fill growlers. The new law doesn't require breweries to accept all growlers, but the competition should force them to rethink their policies.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/20/3121729/pintful-new-nc-law-will-boost.html

A study found that five beer brands were consumed most often by people who ended up in the emergency room. They were Budweiser, Steel Reserve, Colt 45, Bud Ice and Bud Light. Three of the brands are malt liquors, which typically contain more alcohol than regular beer. Four malt liquors accounted for nearly half of the beer consumption by emergency room patients, even though they account for less than 3 percent of beer consumption in the general population.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/beers-implicated-in-emergency-room-visits/?_r=0

Scientists didn't think it was humanly possible, but thanks to a newly manufactured frosty glass of beer, alcoholics can enjoy in excess while worrying less about a headache in the morning. Thanks to Australian researchers, they've created something purely magical: A hydrating beer. How did they do this? They added a little ingredient commonly found in sports drinks that's known to help rehydrate the body during gut-wrenching physical activity--electrolytes.
http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/8888/20130818/hydrating-beer-new-brew-carries-electrolyte s.htm

An Alaskan brewer says it has made a beer from concentrate that tastes and smells as good as a premium micro brew.
Pat's Backcountry Beverages is planning to launch the beer-in-a-packet this fall that will come in two flavors: pale ale and black ale. All thirsty drinks have to do is add water, carbonate, and knock it back.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/08/14/company-to-release-new-beer-from-concentrate-product/
by asdf on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 12:13:59 PM EST
I'll believe that last one only after I've drunk it. Till then, it's a case of  "yea right..."

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 20th, 2013 at 12:29:36 PM EST
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Bumped.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 5th, 2013 at 02:30:06 PM EST
Sorry, I should be doing this, but I've been a bit out of sorts for a while

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 8th, 2013 at 12:21:00 PM EST
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I went to the Denver Oktoberfest today, hoping to sample some authentic Germany beer.

There were no German beers in evidence. The closest thing was this
http://www.samueladams.com/craft-beers/octoberfest
which is not bad but since you can get it at any random bar or liquor store, it's not too special.

Luckily we have two authentic German restaurants in Colorado Springs, and our own Oktoberfest--which I will check out tomorrow.

by asdf on Sat Sep 28th, 2013 at 11:46:24 PM EST
Oktoberfest beers aren't what they were. Certainly the mainsteam ones from Munich which are strong and...er well, that's it. They're strong.

the idea was that they were the last knockings of the strong winter beers of the previous years (brewed from September till March) which were got rid of before the new season fresh beer was drunk.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Oct 2nd, 2013 at 11:23:42 AM EST
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