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Chemical Weapons and Moral Hypocrisy

by Oui Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 05:07:11 AM EST

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About a rogue nation which hasn't ratified the CWC Treaty nor abides by the global NPT Treaty, getting another free pass as the Syrian chemical dump is hopefully disposed of.

Chemical Weapons and Moral Hypocrisy  by Richard Silverstein

(Tikun Olam) - While the Syrian regime's alleged use of chemical weapons is a criminal act if true, and deserving of prosecution before the International Criminal Court-let's not all become moral hypocrites on the subject.  Most major military powers have chemical weapons.  Some have even used them.  Among the more commonly known are Saddam's use against his Iranian enemies during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.  He also used them against the Kurds in Halabja.

The U.S. and Russia both have chemical weapons programs.  In fact, a rogue U.S. chemical weapons researcher may've caused the anthrax scare that killed a number of innocent Americans and tossed the country into a panic just after 9/11.

In the ancient era, Rome and her Germanic tribal enemies each poisoned wells with chemical agents.  The first modern mass use of such weapons in war occurred during World War I when Germany used chlorine gas on the battlefield.

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Israel too has a long history of research into, and use of both chemical and biological weapons. This goes all the way back to the State's founding in 1948.  In the tense lead-up to the War, Israeli forces introduced typhus and dysentery into the water systems of Acre and Gaza, resulting in numerous illnesses and deaths.  Egypt arrested two Israeli agents it found in Gaza and tried and convicted them.  After they escaped and were recaptured the two were hung.  Earlier, Palmach officer Arie Aharoni had been asked to undertake the Gaza poisoning operation and he refused to do so as confirmed in Tikva Honig Parnass' The False Prophets.

Moshe Dayan, a leading Palmach commander during the War, even brought home vials of such poison, one of which was broken by his son, Assi, who contracted typhus and nearly died.  As his mother nursed him back to health, his father was far away fighting, and possibly poisoning, Arabs.

For further historical research and documentation, read Avner Cohen's seminal essay, Israel and Chemical-Biological Weapons [pdf].  Cohen is the world's leading academic historian of Israel's WMD programs.

Read on ...

I added a number of posts on this topic on various blogs and will combine them in this diary and below.


Salman Abu Sitta - Traces of Poison: Israel's Dark History Revealed

The story can now be told, thanks to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) files which have now become available, 50 years after the event. A series of reports, under the reference G59/1/GC, G3/82, sent by ICRC delegate de Meuron from 6 May to about 19 May 1948 describe the conditions of the city population, struck by a sudden typhoid epidemic, and the efforts to combat it.

... The writer has obtained a copy of an e-mail in which an Israeli peace activist asked Uri Milstein about Acre poisoning story. Milstein, the military historian, is described in the e-mail as "very knowledgeable, intelligent, courageous, original, honest" -- although his views belong to the Israeli far-right (!). Milstein replied:

    "I am sorry to say it, but the story is true and the name of the operation was 'Shlach Lachmecha' -- that is 'donate your bread', which is a part of Hebrew saying: donate your bread because sooner or later you will get it back, meaning you have to be generous and one day, you will profit from it yourself. Is this not a cute name for an operation to use biological weapons?"

Israel Acting As a Criminal State in 1992

As an ally to The Netherlands, Israel acted as a criminal state for not divulging contents of the El AL Boeing 747 that crashed on a suburb of Amsterdam in 1992. Years later it was established precursor chemicals for sarin nerve agent were on board.

This topic was covered in my diaries - History of EL AL Flight LY1862 with Illegal Chemicals and Plutonium.

In the Tikun Olam article, I do miss info about the joint research on WMDs with the apartheid state of Pick Botha in South Africa.

Read my diary about the Syrian crisis
Across the Globe, Praise for Putin ‖ Op-ed
It Stinks A Mile In the Wind
President Obama Nixes Close Foreign Policy Advisors

Display:
Kerry and Lavrov have an excellent working relationship and are devoted to a political solution for the Syria crisis. Since the end of May, efforts of Kerry for diplomacy have been stymied from inside the White House. I suspect the NeoCon influence of National Security adviser Susan Rice as the culprit. Ms Rice has a close relationship with PBO and put sufficient doubt in his mind to take a tough stand on the Assad regime and threaten military action. Obama himself decided to step away from the brink of starting another prolonged war on a Muslim nation.

Kerry In Moscow - A Breath of Fresh Air   May 7, 2013
Obama ahead of G8 - Syria Crossed Red Line   June 15, 2013
John Kerry Again Rules Out Military Action in Syria   June 26, 2013
Rice and Kerry: War Inside the White House   Aug. 8, 2013
Barack Obama and an Act of War plus follow-up   Aug. 26, 2013

If John Kerry and Sergey Lavrov illustrate their determination ...
STEP 1 -  Resolve CW issue on Syria
STEP 2 -  Arms embargo and a political solution for Syria
STEP 3 -  Resolve nuclear issue of Iran with president Rouhani
STEP 4 -  Finalize a peace treaty between Israel and Palestine

Obama made a courageous decision stepping away from 35 years of biased US policy on the Middle East. Angry Arab states Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar plus Turkey and Israel. Praise from Russia, Iran and Iraq (Maliki).

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by Oui on Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 05:10:48 AM EST
Do we need more Syrian Rebels propaganda pieces from Murdoch's press?? What a bs.

Syria chemical weapons sites being dispersed to avoid detection, report says

An elite Syrian unit that runs the government's chemical arms program has been scattering the weapons to dozens of sites across the country, potentially complicating US plans for air strikes, the Wall Street Journal reported. [Written by Adam Entous, Julian E. Barnes and Nour Malas]

The newspaper, citing unnamed US officials and lawmakers briefed on the intelligence, said on its website that a secretive military group known as Unit 450 had been moving the stocks around for months to help avoid detection of the weapons.

Iran rejects 'Syria retaliation' report in Wall Street Journal

The WSJ article let to a debate on twitter ...

Vijay Prashad ‏@vijayprashad  38m  
@malas_n @joshua_landis: But for highly sensitive subjects that provide a casus belli, anonymous sources are dangerous & often misleading.

Nour Malas ‏@malas_n  45m  
@vijayprashad @joshua_landis For reasons spelled out in the story and not unusual for highly sensitive subjects.

Vijay Prashad ‏@vijayprashad  59m  
@malas_n @joshua_landis @LakhdarBrahimi: That's clear. That means the entire article is based on anonymous sources, right?

Joshua Landis - Syria Comment  

 
The Konyism of Samantha Power, US Ambassador to the United Nations

(Jadaliyya) Aug. 15, 2013 - Samantha Power, one of the champions of the new law and an advocate of the Responsibility to Protect (R2P) doctrine for liberal interventionism, follows Susan Rice to the United Nations. Rice was equally adamant about the use of US-NATO force to enforce her perception of what counts as a human rights violation. During Rice's tenure at the United Nations there was no use of the language of human rights and the R2P doctrine on behalf of the Palestinians (under occupation by the state of Israel), or the people of the Congo (under the yoke of neighbouring Rwanda through the M23 rebel group), or indeed of the people of Equatorial Guinea (whose ruthless president Obiang enjoyed a warm photo-op with the Obamas in 2012). US allies never felt the edge of Rice's rhetoric, nor Obama's sanctions. [Vijay Prashad, "The Agonies of Susan Rice: Gaza and the Negroponte Doctrine," Jadaliyya, 15 November 2012]

Dressed in sheep's clothing, the ravenous wolves of the Global North defended their allies while they threatened their enemies. It didn't help the latter that many of them are vicious and deserve to be caught and punished. But it did help the United States and its allies to concentrate the spotlight on them and allow their friends to sit in the shadows, smug in their impunity. It also allowed the United States and its allies to import armed forces into parts of the world (mainly Africa as it turns out) where it has interests to protect.

[About the author: Vijay Prashad is a professor of international studies at Trinity College. Among the many books he has authored are The Darker Nations: A People's History of the Third World and Arab Spring, Libyan Winter. He also writes regularly for Asia Times Online, Frontline magazine and CounterPunch.]

Came across this oldie ...
Samantha Power, the Monster, and the Libyan Intervention  by Frank Schnittger - Sept. 8, 2011

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by Oui on Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 05:28:47 AM EST
The foreign ministers of the allied nations France, United Kingdom and the United States will meet at a top level meeting in Paris on Monday. By chance, or not quite certain what the UN Report will disclose ...

UN Report to be presented to UNSG Ban Ki-moon this weekend

(RT) - Earlier Friday, the head of the UN chemical weapons inspection team, Ake Sellstrom, said that the UN report on the alleged use of chemical weapons on August 21 in Syria was complete and would be delivered to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon over the weekend, AP reported.  

The US is confident that the results of the report will "reaffirm that chemical weapons were used in Syria" without assigning blame on any of the conflicting sides in the Syrian civil war, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said Friday.

The foreign ministers of France, Britain and the US are to meet for talks over lunch in Paris on Monday to discuss the Syrian crisis, France's Foreign Ministry said.

Russia, US and UN: Geneva peace talks only way to stop Syria violence

Russia, the US and the UN have agreed that the only solution to the ongoing Syrian crisis lies within the framework of the "Geneva-2" peace talks, Russia's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

After their meeting in Geneva on Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, US State Secretary John Kerry and UN and Arab League Special Envoy to Syria Lakhdar Brahimi "reaffirmed their commitment to an early launch of Syrian dialogue in Geneva between representatives of the Syrian government and main opposition groups," Russia's Foreign Ministry said.  

The meeting between Lavrov, Kerry and Brahimi in Switzerland was focused on "practical issues" to prepare the way for an international peace conference over Syria.

The three diplomats agreed that "a political settlement is the only possible way to an early end to violence in Syria and to overcome acute humanitarian consequences of the Syrian conflict," the Russian Foreign ministry said. This settlement should be "based on the implementation of all provisions of the Geneva communiqué of June 30, 2012," the statement said.

The representatives of Russia, US and UN decided to meet for trilateral talks at the next regular session of the UN General Assembly in New York on Sept. 17.



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by Oui on Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 05:30:28 AM EST
Just to be clear, any number of deaths due to use of forbidden chemical agents is a crime against humanity and requires international response. Inflated number of deaths as used by President Obama in a speech to go to war must be scrutinized. Ever since the gas attack in Ghouta, I have urged to wait for the UN Inspection report.

The full MSF statement - Syria: Thousands Suffering Neurotoxic Symptoms Treated in Hospitals Supported by MSF. MSF organisation was not on the ground in Ghouta due to extreme danger. MSF later came with a second statement, a disclaimer. We reiterate what we stated in our press release on August 24:

    ○ MSF does not have the capacity to identify the cause of the neurotoxic symptoms of patients reported by three clinics supplied by  MSF in Damascus governorate.
    ○ MSF was not and is not directly present at these clinics.
    ○ MSF does not possess the capacity or ability to determine or assign responsibility for the event that caused these reported symptoms to occur.

Even in the senate hearing, Secretary John Kerry was caught quoting a source Elizabeth O'Bagy, not a PhD and not working for ISW anymore, but a Syrian Rebels' lobbyist getting paid for spreading lies and welcomed by Murdoch's Wall Street Journal. A shame and close equivalent to the infamous act by Colin Powell before the world community at the UN Security Council before the Iraq War.

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by Oui on Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 06:04:52 AM EST
A UN Security Council resolution will be made to support the agreement and much of the responsibility will be referred to the OPCW. Inspectors should be on the ground by November 1 and the CW stockpiles should be destroyed by mid-2014. Any further undermining of this agreement or any use of neurotoxin agents in the civil war will be dealt with by the Security Council under Chapter 7 - military force.

BREAKING NEWS: US, Russia agree Syria chem weapons deal

(RT) - Assad's government must submit a comprehensive list of its chemical weapons stocks within a week ahead of their transfer and destruction, US Secretary John Kerry said at a joint press conference with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

The deal worked out between Moscow and Washington on settling the Syria crisis stipulates that Syria's chemical weapons will be rapidly destroyed.

Updates and analysis in my new diary - Chemical Weapons and Moral Hypocrisy.

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by Oui on Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 06:57:49 AM EST
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Admission by Kerry, it is possible rebels possess CW. Fair is fair, also in the by rebels controlled areas if there are chemical weapons present, the US will push for access!

Secretary of State Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov Press Remarks After Their Meeting In Geneva

QUESTION: David Lerman from Bloomberg. Sir, just five days ago in London, when you first floated this idea publicly, you seemed to dismiss it at the time by saying Assad would never do it and, quote, "It can't be done, obviously." My question, sir, is how did the impossible suddenly become possible? And why is it credible to think that you can send these inspectors in on the ground in the middle of a civil war?

SECRETARY KERRY: Sure.

QUESTION: And, as a practical matter, if you really want to get thorough, verifiable inspections in all corners of the country, don't you have to stop the fighting first?

SECRETARY KERRY: ... One of the reasons that we believe this is achievable is because the Assad regime has taken extraordinary pains in order to keep control of these weapons. And they have moved them, and we know they've moved them. We've seen them move them. We watched this. And so we know they've continued to always move them to a place of more control.

Therefore, since these weapons are in areas under regime control predominantly, Sergey raises questions that maybe the opposition has some here or there, and absolutely, fair is fair. Both sides have to be responsible. If they do, that also - and that may present a larger challenge. But those of us who have been supporting the opposition have a responsibility to help create access there, and the regime has responsibility where we believe the - the measure - in fact, we believe the only weapons are - ought to be accessible because the Assad regime controls the access.



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by Oui on Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 03:56:29 PM EST
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon send a tweet about Syria and the OPCW ...

Statement attributable to the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General on Syria's instrument of accession to the Chemical Weapons Convention

New York, 14 September 2013 - The Secretary-General, in his capacity as the depositary of the 1992 Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction, has today received the formal instrument of accession to the Convention by the Syrian Arab Republic.

Pursuant to the Convention, any State may accede to the Convention at any time. The Convention will enter into force for the Syrian Arab Republic on the 30th day following the date of deposit of this instrument of accession, namely on 14 October 2013.

The Secretary-General welcomes the accession of the Syrian Arab Republic to this Convention.



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by Oui on Sat Sep 14th, 2013 at 06:48:51 PM EST
The daily comments to articles in the Jerusalem Post are filled with disdain for America and outright hate or anti-Americanism. Often articles and opinion pieces are authored by Jews living in the US. PM Netanyahu has kept silent on the repositioning of US policy on Syria. Today John Kerry will visit Jerusalem, let the fireworks begin. Links added in article are mine - Oui.

Washington watch: Syria, who cares?

(JPost) - Not long after the 1982 slaughter of upwards of 25,000 Syrians at Hama on orders of then-president Hafez Assad, I asked a top US State Department official why we heard so little outrage from the US or other governments. He shrugged and told me, "No one cares when Arabs kill Arabs."

Today Hafez's son Bashar is making daddy look like a piker, with more than 100,000 of his fellow Syrians killed over the past two-and-ahalf years, most recently 1,400 by poison gas, including over 400 children, in a Damascus suburb last month. Another two million have become refugees.

After several smaller Syrian chemical attacks, an angry American president finally decided to punish Bashar Assad for this crime against humanity by lobbing a few cruise missiles at some Syrian targets, careful to avoid the chemical weapons depots.

But after initial resistance, he decided to seek permission from a Congress he is known to scorn, and where the feeling is mutual among many. That's when the real trouble began. He faces a humiliating defeat from anti-war Democrats on the left, skeptics in the center and rabidly anti-Obama Republicans, isolationists and xenophobes on the right.

So he turned to two nemeses for help: Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Neither has been very good at concealing his disdain for Obama - nor he for them - and each now has an opportunity to put the American president in his debt.

... Obama turned first to Israel and the Jewish community for help in selling his case. He didn't just call Netanyahu [and Peres - Oui] for help but also enlisted the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and other Jewish groups to lobby the Congress. Rather than keep a low profile, AIPAC announced how it was sending 250 citizen lobbyists to the Hill to build support for an Obama policy that it saw as sending a message to Iran not to build a nuclear weapon.

... Netanyahu reportedly was even making personal phone calls to friends in Congress, at Obama's request. I can't think of a better way to tell the world that the Jews and Israel are pushing the United States to go to war in Syria. When Mearsheimer and Walt and their band of Israel haters accused Israel and the Jews of pushing us to war against Iraq after 9/11 they were totally wrong, but who can say that this time?

[Author: Douglas M. Bloomfield, a former staff member of AIPAC, writes about the Mideast and politics of Jewish life in America.]



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by Oui on Sun Sep 15th, 2013 at 07:42:05 AM EST
The piece by Marcy Wheeler could have been written by McCain/Graham based on mistrust of the political effort and agreement put in place by the CWC teams of John Kerry and Sergey Lavrov. Both President Putin and Obama have committed themselves to the deal. The inspection regime and the destruction of the CW arms and facilities will be performed by the OPCW. I suggest everyone take note of the press conference, it provides clarity. As the Russian newspapers wrote headlines: Chemistry between Kerry and Lavrov. But the good understanding has been there all along. Diplomacy is on the front burner in the White House.

As I have written, a political solution on Syria will be put on the table and agreed upon by Russia and the US within a 90 day period. A backchannel is opened with President Rouhani of Iran for talks on the nuclear issue with the US. The "humanitarian hawks" in the Obama administration have taken a back-seat to diplomacy and the effort of Secretary Kerry.

Marcy Wheeler doesn't get it.

The World after the Kerry-Lavrov accord on Syria by Juan Cole
Kerry after briefing PM on Syria accord: Diplomacy preferred solution, but 'no option off the table' Jerusalem visit

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by Oui on Sun Sep 15th, 2013 at 12:16:42 PM EST
McCain baffles Russian communists promising to respond to Putin's op-ed in Pravda
McCain: US inaction put Hollande in `unfair position' interview by France24

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by Oui on Sun Sep 15th, 2013 at 12:17:22 PM EST
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I'm not sure what the problem with Wheeler's piece is supposed to be. Her interpretation, everyone is dealing in bad faith, is diametrically opposed to yours but that doesn't make it NeoCon.
by generic on Sun Sep 15th, 2013 at 04:47:11 PM EST
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I too love Marcy Wheeler's great investigative work!

My main argument is, emptywheel based her analysis on distrust of the deal with the Russians and the inability for the OPCW to do its task. In the press conference of Kerry and Putin, this point had been adressed and answered. Syria has ratified the CWC treaty and as such has committed itself to the process of CW disarmament. A UN Security Council resolution will be agreed upon in the coming days, supported by Russia and the US. To write this analysis, you don't believe a word that was said nor value the agreement signed. This is very similar to words and statements by McCain amd Graham. It's their lifeline.

The following statements by emptywheel are just not true ...

    ○ US Negotiating Position in Lavrov-Kerry Deal Depends on Expansive Commander-in-Chief Claims
    ○ just agreed to does allow the US to demand a UN resolution backing use of force in case Assad does balk
    ○ US does expect Russia would still veto such a resolution
    ○ because we exercise little leverage over them [rebels] , we may not be able to prevent them from scuttling the disarmament process

Her last paragraph is  basically wrong:

    "In any case, I'm pretty sure I know what the Russians -- who, after all, won this round -- intend: that's to protect Assad's hold on power, via whatever means. And frankly, that's what we are -- explicitly, at least -- seeking as well, even while we continue to arm rebels trying to overthrow him."

Step 2 of this process will be vigorous talks between Russia and the US to iron out a political solution to the conflict. Just as in step 1, there will be a minimum of consultation with partners, the FSA and the Assad crowd.  I'm certain there is already a basic agreement on the outline of these talks - Geneva 2. Assad and his henchmen will not be part of a future regime in Syria. If you read between the lines, Putin and Russia already implied such a year ago. If the UN Inspectors point to Assad for the Ghouta gas attack, Assad is definitely out. The meeting between Kerry and Lavrov proceeded in good faith, Obama wil support a diplomatic solution. This is completely new for Obama, a reversal of his decision to attack the Assad regime a fortnight ago.

See my earlier post - US Confusion Setting Policy On Syria, other progressives tell the tale PBO knew all along what he was doing setting policy on Syria, a masterful coup to play out diplomacy.

    "For the neo-cons, our Syria policy was rather explicitly about preventing Russia (and also Iran) from having any influence in Syria. The same can be said for our Sunni allies in the region. The same can be said for Israel. The president doesn't think that and never has thought that."

This writer in Israel gets it!
Analysis ||  U.S.- Russia agreement on Syrian chemical weapons, is, theoretically, a godsend for Israel by Chemi Shalev

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by Oui on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:43:20 AM EST
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○ US Negotiating Position in Lavrov-Kerry Deal Depends on Expansive Commander-in-Chief Claims
○ just agreed to does allow the US to demand a UN resolution backing use of force in case Assad does balk
○ US does expect Russia would still veto such a resolution

Well, that's what the linked AP article claims. Basically the usual anonymous officials stating that they and not the UN will be the judge of any violation. That's consistent with both internal messaging: "the Russians didn't outmanoeuvre us, we can still do what we want", and an Iraq strategy to get a war after all. No way to know at the outset which it's going to be, but I'm sure that should the US try to trump up shortcomings in the disarmament process into a case for war the Russians won't play along. Of course it would be preferable if the defeat of the War Party was as decisive as you suppose it to be but if it wasn't those three points are relevant.

How much leverage the US has over the rebels is debatable, but since the bulk of the support comes from the Gulf monarchies and Turkey I don't think claiming little leverage is objectively wrong.

I agree that the last paragraph is a mess, though.

by generic on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 07:39:35 AM EST
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If I get Booman's post, he is interested in how the Syria crisis reflects on Obama. Not the administration as a whole, but on Obamam as a person.

Somehow I am less interested in how smart Obama is, then the consequences of the actions of the government he is supposed to lead.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 07:46:51 AM EST
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FM Laurent Fabius, FM William Hague and Secretary Kerry explain the agreements in Geneva on CW in Syria. This confirms for 100% my assessment of the process from Geneva to the next step, working towards a political solution of the civil/sectarian war. On the first question, how Kerry will provide protection for the Christian minority in Syria as in Iraq the consequences were dire and most Christians have fled the country. Will there be an option similar to the 1975 proposal on Lebanon, an opportunity for transfer of minorities to Canada. Kerry answer in short, he doesn't agree the persecution of Christians in Iraq was a consequnce of US/UK invasion and occupation. Conclusion: the allies have yet no idea how to protect minorities once the Assad regime is overthrown. All three speak in strong terms of the moderate opposition, IMHO that is non-existent as we have witnessed the last 30 months.

The Chapter 7 sanction has already been incorporated in the Geneva agreement between the US and Russia.

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by Oui on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 06:41:08 AM EST
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For me there were no surprises at the press conference in Paris. All the harsh statements by Fabius, Hague and Kerry were to safe face after being outmaneuvered by Putin last week. Kerry tried his best to present the three as a strong coalition having identical goals. I found nothing disturbing in their statements, as all three had to backtrack from earlier war rhetoric and having their credibility undermined.

It doesn't seem Russian FM Lavrov appreciated the hard talk by the three and gave a rebuttal from Moscow.

Force rebels to talk peace - Russia

(RT) - Meanwhile Lavrov said it may be time for the West to force the Syrian opposition to attend the planned Geneva conference. He was speaking in Moscow after meeting Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy. He added that the plan that Russia agreed to follow did not involve any automatic use of military force against Syria unless sanctioned by the UN Security Council.

Lavrov stressed that the exact details of the terms for the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons stockpile are yet to be determined by the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), while the future UNSC resolution is to endorse the decision of that organization rather than enforce particular terms on its own. This is part of the agreement the US and Russia reached, he said.

The destruction of the stockpiles would be the responsibility of the Syrian government and the CWC [meant to say OPCW in The Hague - Oui], the Russian minister pointed out, but international community may be required to provide "additional international personnel" to provide security at the sites where the weapons would be scrapped.

'Best way to get rid of Assad': France urges strong UN resolution



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by Oui on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 09:15:00 AM EST
Secretary-General's remarks to the Security Council on the report of the United Nations Missions to Investigate Allegations of the Use of Chemical Weapons on the incident that occurred on 21 August 2013 in the Ghouta area of Damascus

NEW YORK Sept. 16, 2013 - The team interviewed more than 50 survivors, medical personnel and first responders. It applied a rigorous and objective selection process designed to identify survivors who may have been exposed to chemical agents. It assessed these individuals' symptoms and collected biomedical samples, including from hair, urine and blood.

The samples were sent for analysis to four laboratories designated by the OPCW. The Mission's factual findings are as follows.

(a) The environmental and biomedical samples demonstrate the widespread nature of the attacks. Eighty-five per cent of the blood samples tested positive for sarin. Biomedical samples were taken from 34 of the 36 patients selected by the Mission who had signs of poisoning. Almost all tested positive for exposure to sarin.

(b) These results were corroborated by the clinical assessments, which documented symptoms and signs consistent with nerve agent exposure. A number of affected patients were diagnosed with intoxification by an organophosphorous compound, and clearly showed symptoms associated with sarin, including loss of consciousness, shortness of breath, blurred vision, eye inflammation, vomiting and seizures.

(c) A majority of the environmental samples confirmed the use of sarin. The samples were taken from impact sites and surrounding areas - locations where survivors were also found to have been affected by sarin.

(d) The team was also able to examine impacted and exploded surface-to-surface rockets that are capable of carrying a chemical payload. These were carefully measured, photographed and sampled. A majority of the rockets or rocket fragments recovered were found to be carrying sarin.

On the basis of its analysis, the Mission concluded that it - and I quote - "collected clear and convincing evidence that surface-to-surface rockets containing the nerve agent sarin were used in the Ein Tarma, Moadamiyah and Zalmalka in the Ghouta area of Damascus."

Due to the security situation and other limitations, the Mission was unable to document the full extent of the use of chemical weapons on 21 August or to verify the total number of causalities.

The United Nations Mission has now confirmed, unequivocally and objectively, that chemical weapons have been used in Syria.

This is a war crime and a grave violation of the 1925 Protocol and other rules of customary international law.  I trust all can join me in condemning this despicable crime. The international community has a responsibility to hold the perpetrators accountable and to ensure that chemical weapons never re-emerge as an instrument of warfare.

The accession of Syria to the Chemical Weapons Convention and Syria's belated acknowledgement that it possesses chemical weapons are welcome developments that come with strict obligations.



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by Oui on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:32:06 PM EST
Attack was on a massive scale with multiple surface-to-surface artillery rockets with characteristics of type BM-14. Relative positions of two impact sites are fully congruent with the dispersion pattern with rockets launched from a single, multi barrel launcher. Amount of sarin gas used in attack estimated at 360 liters. Experts will need to investigate which party is to blame, it's a war crime and the UN Security Council will be asked to bring justice to the perpetrator. CNN had shown in a documentary the OPCW research lab in The Hague, location remains secret. Nearly all experts on the ground in Syria were from the OPCW, from other countries than the five permanent members of the Security Council. Even Iran has an official OPCW-designated Laboratory.

'Clear and convincing' evidence of chemical weapons use in Syria, UN team reports

(UN News Centre) - The report, delivered to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon yesterday and made public today, concludes that on the basis of evidence obtained during the investigation of the Ghouta incident, "chemical weapons have been used in the ongoing conflict between the parties in [Syria], also against civilians, including children, on a relatively large scale."

The team, lead by Swedish scientist Dr. Åke Sellström, also concludes in particular that the environmental, chemical and medical samples collected provide "clear and convincing evidence that surface-to-air- rockets containing the nerve agent Sarin were used in Ein Tarma, Moadamiyah, and Zamalka, in the Ghouta area of Damascus."

United Nations Mission to Investigate Allegations of the Use of Chemical Weapons in the Syrian Arab Republic
Report on the Alleged Use of Chemical Weapons in the Ghouta Area of Damascus on 21 August 2013



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by Oui on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 03:12:15 PM EST
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Rober Fisk
First - and let's remember the narrative of events - Obama last year was really, terribly, awfully worried that Syria's chemical weapons would "fall into the wrong hands". In other words, he was frightened they would fall into the hands of al-Qa'ida or the al-Nusra front. Seemingly they were still, at that moment, in the "right hands" - those of the regime of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. But now Obama and the US Secretary of State, John Kerry, have decided that they are in the wrong hands after all, since they are now accusing the "right hands" of firing sarin gas shells at civilians. And that crosses the infamous "red line".

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Of course, Putin and Lavrov kept clear of references to the Second World War. Russia suffered too grievously from the real Hitler for that. I've said this before, but I really do suspect that leaders who have no experience of war - I am excepting McCain and the indefatigable UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi here - actually thought they were making a Hollywood movie. Kerry's preposterous "unbelievably small" strike is obviously a low budget film for recession-hit America. Obama promises wide-screen drama. Think Steven Spielberg. And then the Russians, who can spot a dead cat when they see one, zap the whole project.

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Of course, while the inspectors are battering their way through the front lines - if Assad hasn't got all his weapons in Tartous, Banias and Lattakia on the Mediterranean coast, which I suspect - the Syrians continue to kill each other, the Syrian government goes on trying to break the rebels and the Islamist insurgents go on attacking Christian towns and chopping off the heads of captives. Put bluntly, they can use rifles, shells, knives and swords to slaughter each other - but absolutely no sarin. There is something deeply offensive and deeply cynical about all this. Russia re-enters the Middle East, Obama is off the hook after playing World War 2 - and the Syrians go on dying.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 05:20:33 PM EST
Put bluntly, they can use rifles, shells, knives and swords to slaughter each other - but absolutely no sarin.

I think this is called The Logic of War. Or something.

It's perfectly fine to kill enemies, as long as you do it with sharp metal, projectiles, and high explosives.

Chemicals, bio-weapons, and nukes are the wrong side of the red line.

Presumably this makes sense to someone out there.

I suppose there's an Argument from Escalation, which is that once someone uses them everyone will and really, really bad things will happen.

Which makes a kind of sense, and is probably true, up to a point.

But still - maybe it's the killing that's the real problem, not the weapons it's being done with.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 16th, 2013 at 06:58:30 PM EST
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It makes sense to agree to not do biological weapons. Because the line between "warfare agent" and "extinction event" gets blurred really fast when you go into customized superbugs.

For nukes, the argument is a little weaker, but not by very much. True, you can make a city go away by firebombing it... but you can't smuggle in a full-scale air raid in a standard twenty-foot shipping container.

But chemical weapons really don't belong in that club. I still haven't heard a convincing argument that choking on sarin is worse than bleeding out from shrapnel, or stepping on a cluster bomb sub-munition, or being shredded by machine gun fire.

I guess I can see how chemical weapons are more indiscriminate than machine guns (as long as you don't sell the machine guns to street gangs pretending to be rebel forces)... but you'd have a really hard time arguing that they're more indiscriminate than air raids. And sarin, unlike cluster bombing, doesn't leave unexploded munitions around for people to enjoy after the cessation of hostilities.

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 02:47:37 AM EST
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Indiscriminate bombing of cities or the use of chemical agents. Not all war crimes are equal! Was the Treaty of 1925 based on the use during war or because Churchill had adopted chemical agents on cities to suppress uprisings in Mesopotomia? When was the term "teargas" coined, need restraint on the deadly mixture as used in Bahrain and Turkey today! Made in Israel btw.

WWI 1914-1917
Churchill Iraq 1920
WWII Nuremburg Trials
Rotterdam-London-Coventry bombing, but Dresden?
Israel 1948 - BW typhoid
Hanoi 1972 - carpet bombing / agent orange
South Africa 1980s - Project Coast
Iraq-Iran War 1980s
Halabja 1988
Japan - sarin
US - anthrax
Fallujah 2004
Damascus 2013

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by Oui on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 04:08:24 AM EST
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Chemical wapons, air raids and "Bullets which can Easily Expand or Change their Form inside the Human Body" were all banned in the 1899 Hague convention.

Looking at the 1899 and the 1907 Hague Conventions at Wikipedia my overall impression is that they are about the limitation of the destructiveness of wars between major powers. Given that at the time a handful of European powers dominated much of the world and there is no bans on treatment of powers that have not signed the conventions, or civilian natives around the world, it is easy to see these conventions in great part as an attempt to avoid upsetting the colonial world order by the wars between the major powers. Of course, that failed.

Post WWI and its horrors, the chemical ban was reinforced and biological weapons were banned too in 1925. This I think should be seen in relation to the Kellogg-Briand Pact of 1928 to end wars overall. I would say in part keeping the world order, in part genuine horror over the trench warfare.

But today the great powers show great reluctance towards giving up any of their nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. Wasn't the 2001 anthrax of US origin?

So I guess the function is to seperate the great powers from the not so great. Sort of like how Discharge of Projectiles and Explosives from Balloons or by Other New Analogous Methods is now very much allowed for great powers, but not for Khaddafi.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 04:32:22 AM EST
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Kellogg-Briand Pact Signed at Paris, August 27, 1928

Frank B. Kellogg - Secretary of State of the United States of America
Aristide Briand - Minister for Foreign Affairs of the French Republic

Kellogg-Briand Pact (or Pact of Paris, officially General Treaty for Renunciation of War as an Instrument of National Policy.

So as a result, the Secretary of War changed to Secretary of Defense but the horror of wars and the humiliation of peoples became more refined. Today, after a decade of NeoCon policy a reinvention by "humanitarian hawks" in the Responsibility to Protect (R2P) doctrine. It's because Barack Obama decided to get his thoughts straight on Middle-East policy during a walk in the White House gardens with close adviser Terry McDonough, he stepped away from the brink of war.

So, today nations don't declare a war on an other nation and an undeclared war cannot end. The battlefield prisoners at Guantanamo Bay can't go free because "hostilities" haven't ended. The military strike on Syria was declared by Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama as not an act of war. After Chechnya (Grozny), Iraq (Fallujah), Israel (Jenin and Gaza) and Syria (Aleppo and Damascus) the global community need to agree to a pact how to approach civil war, terrorists or freedom fighters and a lawful desire for independence by a people. The atrocities in Afghanistan/Pakistan, Iraq and Syria lead to failed states and immense suffering. Terror needs to be stamped out.

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by Oui on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 07:13:58 AM EST
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Nation-states don't like chemical warfare because a small number of semi-trained or trained chemical weapons technicians and experts can cause a huge amount of disruption and death.  And a guerrilla chemical weapon group using captured stocks can set up, fire, break down, and escape before counter-fire can be organized and delivered.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat Sep 21st, 2013 at 02:01:25 PM EST
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ATinNM:
Nation-states don't like chemical warfare because a small number of semi-trained or trained chemical weapons technicians and experts can cause a huge amount of disruption and death.

same with nukes, come to think about it...

for wars to be profitable they can't be won too easily. lots of blood and rubble the 'geneva conventions' way, as long as there's an angry young man to sell guns to there's money to be made, same with arming besieged dictators.
 you don't want these profit machines wars to be 'over', unless you are looking for those fat 'rebuilding' contracts.

oh yes, war is the inevitable result of too much money in too few hands, there's no payoff to peace comparable.

that's why they are so against a green economy, it decentralises power, literally as well as metaphorically. any monopolist's nemesis!

cook the planet for quick profits... when people can't afford to pay the rentier class for the privilege of staying alive, then war is what happens, by hook and by crook. consume what and as we wish, or die!

nice planet, pity about most of the gulled inhabitants.

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 21st, 2013 at 03:56:47 PM EST
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Nation-states sure seem to like making them.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Sep 21st, 2013 at 04:19:42 PM EST
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So did we actually learn anything at all from the UN report? I take it we still don't know if the sarin was military grade?
On my own reading I completely missed his:

NYTimes Finally Finds Concern Over Impunity for War Crimes, But Only Assad's War Crimes | emptywheel

From the way that the UN report is written, it is impossible to determine whether the two rockets for which these flight paths were determined actually tested positive for sarin, or if they even were tested at all.

And of course, as the inspectors note, the site was anything but undisturbed.
All around pretty disappointing.
by generic on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 01:45:50 PM EST
From the UN Report

Information about munitions:
23.    Information gathered about the delivery systems used was essential for the investigation. Indeed, several surface to surface rockets capable of delivering significant chemical payloads were identified and recorded at the investigated sites. These were carefully measured, photographed and sampled. Samples later confirmed to contain Sarin werr recovered from a majority of the rockets or rocket fragments. For more detailed information and assessments see Appendix 5.

Environmental samples collected in Zamalka / Ein Tarma on 28 August 2013
Between 14:14 and 14:38 a number of samples were taken from the rockets and fragments.

Limitations:
The time necesary to conduct a detailed survey of both locations as well as take samples was very limited. The sites have been well travelled by other individuals both before and during the investigation. Fragments and other possible evidence have clearly been handled/moved prior to the arrival of the invetigation team.

Limitations:
As with other sites, the locations have been well travelled by other individuals prior to the arrival of the Mission. Time spent on the sites was well used but limited. During the time spent at these locations, individuals arrived carrying other suspected munitions indicating that such potential evidence is being moved and possibly manipulated.

U.N. report photo shows confirmation of sarin in Syria attack

(Reuters) - The U.N. investigators studied five impact sites and were able to determine the likely trajectory of the projectiles at two sites: Moadamiyah and Ein Tarma.

Eliot Higgins, who blogs under the name of Brown Moses and has been tracking videos of weapons used in the Syria conflict, wrote that he has not seen the opposition using the munitions identified in the report: a variant of the M14 artillery rocket and a 330 mm caliber artillery rocket.

But Amy Smithson, a chemical weapons expert at Monterey Institute, said the August 21 attack bore "so many hallmarks of a military trained in chemical warfare doctrine" and not an untrained force. She said the army has chemical delivery systems the rebels lack.

Brown Moses: Who Was Responsible For The August 21st Attack?

The HRW report also mentions the use of artillery shells Soviet era BM-14 launchers for 140mm rockets. These have been around a very long time and used extensively in the Algerian civil war, Egypt and Sudan (etc.). IMO these 140mm rockets could be launched from homemade artillery. There are videos of rebel forces launching this diameter rocket, see one here.

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by Oui on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 03:39:00 PM EST
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It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 11:03:22 AM EST
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M of A - Syria: UN Report Does Not Point To Chemical Attack Origin

Specifically the first site the UN commission visited was near Moadamiyah, south of Damascus. The investigators took blood and urine samples from some people they met on their visit there. Those samples proved positive for exposure to Sarin. But all environment samples taken in Moadamiyah proved negative (Appendix 6 and 7 of the UN report. Sample 1 to 12 taken on August 26.) If those person found in Moadamiyah would have been exposed in Moadamiyah the environment there would also have been exposed. But the UN team found that this was not the case. The person must have been moved to Moadamiyah after having been exposed elsewhere. The 140 mm rocket the UN team assessed in Moadamiyah can thereby not be implicated in the chemical attack.

Emphasis mine.

by generic on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 12:29:49 PM EST
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MoA is, sadly, not a reliable source. He's gone so anti-everything that it's impossible to filter out fact.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 01:11:28 PM EST
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Nah, his problem is that at some point he started believing Assad's bullshit.
I'm not quoting him as an authority on anything though. It's a verifiable fact that all the environment samples at the first site turned out negative. I've also found no mention in the report whether the two missiles that were in condition to estimate a trajectory were tested on sarin.
by generic on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 01:54:49 PM EST
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It seems he'll believe anything so long as it's anti-conventional wisdom, which isn't a great filter to have, since the people on the other side are often also vicious wankers.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 02:12:41 PM EST
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Still, whatever he believes, he tries to make the best case for it he can. This one is quite solid.
by generic on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 03:21:34 PM EST
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Brown Moses blog

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by Oui on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 04:20:01 PM EST
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Apparently that's not quite true. Sample 14 is described as a metal fragment taken from the roof in Appendix 7, but in Appendix 6 it is described as "a piece of the rocket".
by generic on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 05:40:18 PM EST
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From Mondoweiss:

Kagame

Leading observers say the reevaluation of Kagame and his legacy is long overdue. Filip Reyntjens, a Belgian scholar whom many consider the world's foremost expert on Rwanda, describes Kagame as "probably the worst war criminal in office today." In an interview, Reyntjens told me that Kagame's crimes rank with those perpetrated by former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein or Sudanese leader Omar al-Bashir, who is wanted by the International Criminal Court on charges of genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 05:12:12 PM EST
Will Syria be Obama's Rwanda?

I understand the combination of Rabbi Shmuley Boteach - Sheldon Adelson - Michael Steinhardt and even Paul Kagame, but Elie Wiesel at the RW Republican event?

Kagame of Rwanda & Elie Wiesel Join Rabbi Shmuley in Conversation


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by Oui on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 05:51:03 PM EST
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Netanyahu's office denies Ambassador Oren's claim that Israel favors rebels in Syrian civil war

(JPost) - The Prime Minister's Office denied a claim made in an interview by Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren that Israel favors the rebels over the Assad regime in Syria's civil war. The PMO said Israel's policy remains non-intervention in Syria's internal affairs.

The statement was issued by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office following an interview Oren gave to The Jerusalem Post, in which he said Israel had "always preferred the bad guys who weren't backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran." This was the case, he said, even if the other "bad guys" were affiliated with Al-Qaida.

"We understand that they are pretty bad guys," he said in the interview, referring to elements of the Syrian opposition. "Still, the greatest danger to Israel is by the strategic arc that extends from Tehran, to Damascus to Beirut."

Ahead of expected 'gestures' by Rouhani, PM urges world to remain firm on Iran nukes



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by Oui on Tue Sep 17th, 2013 at 05:28:58 PM EST
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Defense Analyst Report: Islamic extremists have indeed heavily influenced the Syrian rebel opposition

(Jane's Defens Weekly) - According to IHS's numbers, Syria's opposition is overrun with extremists and nearly half take up the entire fighting force. Overall, an estimated 100,000 are taking arms against Assad and of that 100,000, there are a reported 10,000 jihadists, which include the foreign fighters. Adding to the extremist factions are 30,000 to 35,000 hard-line Islamists, allied to al-Qaeda.

Together with the 40,000 to 45,000 fueled Islamists are the likely 30,000 moderate rebels, most of which are still aligned with Islamic rule. These numbers would leave estimates very slim in terms of the fighters representing a nationalist Syrian opposition. Shockingly, IHS Jane's study finds that around 1,000 different factions or groups are fighting inside Syria, showing a diverse and wide-ranged opposition to Assad. If anything, groups like al-Nusra are making up the core fight force in Syria.

Jason Ditz of AntiWar wrote, "What's left is the secularist component, a pretty small minority in the grand scheme of things, made doubly so by the fact that the al-Qaeda run forces like Jabhat al-Nusra have been dramatically more formidable in fighting." Charles Lister, author of the IHS study believes with fighting entering its third year in Syria, most factions or groups are seeing some sort of Islamic influence.

Israeli General: Syria War Creating Foreign Jihadist Hub On Our Border



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by Oui on Wed Sep 18th, 2013 at 04:14:09 AM EST
Press statement: Confirmation of Syria Disclosure

THE HAGUE (OPCW) - 16:00 CEST. The OPCW has received an initial disclosure from the Syrian Government of its chemical weapons programme, which is now being examined by the Technical Secretariat of the Organisation.



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by Oui on Fri Sep 20th, 2013 at 11:13:46 AM EST
On his twitter account, Brian Whitaker mentions the Dale Gavlak articles published in TOI are all AP copyright. Some articles are co-authored and a number are not. The topic of those articles authored by Dale Gavlak alone are all about Jordan and refugees. It's very likely on these articles, Gale Gavlak worked together with Yahya Ababneh. In the LinkedIn page of Yahya Ababneh [cached version], he mentioned a number of projects including Zaatari Refugee Camp Survey for Relief International (Dec.  2012 to Present). On languages he states bi-lingual fluency in Modern Standard Arabic, Lebanese- and Jordanian Arabic. Education: Petra University Bachelor of Arts (B.A.),  Journalism and Media Studies  2009 - 2011; Yarmouk University  General Studies  2007 - 2009.

YouTube: Yani Barakat aka Yahya Ababneh with friends in St. Petersburg (uploaded May 5, 2013)
Questions Plague UN Report on Syria by Sharmine Narwani

Posted earlier in article on Tikun Olam blog.

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by Oui on Wed Sep 25th, 2013 at 02:37:52 PM EST
A Chemical Weapons Expert Responds To The Article "Questions Plague UN Report on Syria"

It is true in respect to the fact that no actual Sarin was found in the 13 environmental samples taken from Moadamiyah. But the samples show DIMP, IMPA, and MPA, all of which are strong indicators of Sarin. The environmental samples are clear indicators that Sarin was used because of the clear presence of chemicals that are clearly decomposition products (IMPA, MPA) and impurities (DIMP), all of which persist longer in the environment than Sarin itself.

There are several plausible reasons why the UN team did not collect a sample of actual Sarin at the Moadamiyah. Any or all of the following explanatory or contributory factors may have applied to this circumstance.

"One of the chemical weapon experts quoted in the article is Dan Kaszeta, who has responded to the article with a FAQ he'll be publishing online shortly he has published online."

Dan Kaszeta is NOT an UN Inspector of the team that visited Ghouta in Syria.

In an interview with Truthout, Dan Kaszeta, a specialist on chemical, biological and radiological weapons who has advised the White House on those issues, pointed out that a nerve gas attack would have been accompanied by a pattern of symptoms that are not shown in the videos posted online.

Chemical agents containing traces of sarin: DIMP, IMPA, and MPA. Some info in the role of photochemical and microbiological transformation processes in determining the environmental fates of diisopropyl methylphosphonate (DIMP) and dicyclopentadiene (DCPD) was investigated in 1979.

A Pesticide Containing DIMP

Nearby Rocky Mountain Arsenal made the Environmental Protection Agency's first Superfund list. Colorado residents learned that 750 chemicals were bubbling in that toxic soup. Among them was diisopropyl methylphosphonate (DIMP), a chemical unique to the Army's manufacture of GB nerve gas, or sarin.

... a draft of a new toxicological profile being done on DIMP that suggested the chemical was far more deadly than previously suspected--and that was already plenty deadly. Specifically, the profile noted that this derivative of sarin has a half-life of 530 years, affects the nervous system, and results in animal mortality with a single dermal application.

U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command at Fort Detrick, Maryland (1979)
STUDIES OF ENVIRONMENTAL FATES OF DIMP AND DCPD
(pdf)

Aquatic Animal Health and IMPA Isopropyl methylphosphonic acid

Research Project:   EVALUATION OF COMPOUNDS AND STRATEGIES FOR IMPROVING AQUATIC ANIMAL HEALTH
Location: Harry K. Dupree Stuttgart National Aquaculture Research Center

ATT'N: The title of the research project and the location has been deleted on September 25, 2013. Can still be found on 2009 version Wayback Machine archive!

MPA Methylphosphonic acid - Supplier Safety Data Sheet



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by Oui on Thu Sep 26th, 2013 at 05:48:44 AM EST


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 26th, 2013 at 08:41:21 AM EST
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The Nobel Peace Prize 2013

The Nobel Peace Prize 2013 was awarded to Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons "for its extensive efforts to eliminate chemical weapons".

During World War One, chemical weapons were used to a considerable degree. The Geneva Convention of 1925 prohibited the use, but not the production or storage, of   chemical weapons. During World War Two, chemical means were employed in Hitler's mass exterminations. Chemical weapons have subsequently been put to use on numerous occasions by both states and terrorists. In 1992-93 a convention was drawn up prohibiting also the production and storage of such weapons. It came into force in 1997. Since then the OPCW has, through inspections, destruction and by other means, sought the implementation of the convention. 189 states have acceded to the convention to date.

The conventions and the work of the OPCW have defined the use of chemical weapons as a taboo under international law. Recent events in Syria, where chemical weapons have again been put to use, have underlined the need to enhance the efforts to do away with such weapons. Some states are still not members of the OPCW. Certain states have not observed the deadline, which was April 2012, for destroying their chemical weapons. This applies especially to the USA and Russia.

Website OPCW has crashed and is unavailable, read OPCW twitter account.

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