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8-9 March 2014

by DoDo Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 03:45:41 PM EST

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*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:36:45 PM EST
Juncker wins center-right backing as candidate for top EU job | News | DW.DE | 07.03.2014

Juncker was chosen as the lead candidate of the conservative center-right European People's Party (EPP) at a party congress in Dublin. A veteran of EU politics, the former Luxembourg prime minister lost office last year after 18 years in the position.

Juncker beat French rival Michel Barnier, the EU's regulation chief, with a first tally among EPP delegates showing he secured 382 votes to Barnier's 245. Delegates included German chancellor Angela Merkel.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:36:55 PM EST
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Ukraine crisis: Putin says 'Russia cannot ignore calls for help' in Crimea - live updates | World news | theguardian.com

Ballots for the vote in Crimea on joining Russia announced for 16 March appear to have been printed.

...Update: Kyiv Post has translated the rest of the ballot and concluded that there is no way to vote no:

The ballot asks two questions and leaves no option for a "no" vote. Voters are simply asked to check one of two boxes:

Do you support joining Crimea with the Russian Federation as a subject of Russian Federation?

And:

Do you support restoration of 1992 Crimean Constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine?

That Constitution declares that Crimea is an independent state.

The questions are written in Russian, Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar, the three most widely spoken languages on the peninsula, and the paper carries a warning in all three languages that marking both options will invalidate the ballot.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:37:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ukraine crisis: Putin says 'Russia cannot ignore calls for help' in Crimea - live updates | World news | theguardian.com

Pieces of the $15bn aid package for Ukraine announced by the European Commission are contingent on coordination with the International Monetary Fund. IMF European director Reza Moghadam has just released a statement on his visit this week to Ukraine saying he had had "productive discussions" and is "positively impressed":

"During my visit to Kyiv on March 6-7, I had productive discussions with the Prime Minister and his economic team. I am positively impressed with the authorities' determination, sense of responsibility and commitment to an agenda of economic reform and transparency. The IMF stands ready to help the people of Ukraine and support the authorities' economic program to put Ukraine firmly on the path of good economic governance and sustainable growth while protecting the poor and vulnerable.

"Our fact-finding mission that has been working in Kyiv from March 4 is progressing well. The mission is developing a good understanding of the extent to which imbalances need to be corrected to stabilize the economy. This will guide the mission's recommendations to the IMF management on the subsequent course of action. We will continue to consult with all key stakeholders."



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:37:21 PM EST
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The IMF stands ready to help the people of Ukraine and support the authorities' economic program to put Ukraine firmly on the path of good economic governance and sustainable growth while protecting the poor and vulnerable.

Yeah...IMF is famous for "protecting the poor and vulnerable"...I am sorry I have to go to puke...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein

by vbo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:24:25 PM EST
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Sorry, they meant poor and vulnerable oligarchs with large houses bank accounts in tax havens like London and Bermuda

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 02:49:36 AM EST
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Our fact-finding mission that has been working in Kyiv from March 4 is progressing well.

Yeah...it would be nice if they tried to move a bit at least few kilometers from Kiev (or from government building for that matter)  and "find fact" that there is no money in money machines,that businesses are not paying each other, that factories are producing stuff that can be sold ONLY in Russia ( and Russians are canceling their contacts as we speak)... there are lot of "facts" to be seen but miraculously they are seeing "Positive" facts...what a hell do they smoke?
I saw Kiev appointed governor , businessman, explaining how bad situation actually is on the ground, but no these people from IMF are not seeing it.They live in la-la land.  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:34:03 PM EST
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Some facts are just too inconvenient.

Besides which, their paychecks depend on them discovering that the situation is in accordance with pre-existing prejudices

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 02:52:02 AM EST
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The UN representative who went more than a few kilometres from Kiev, into Crimea, was run out by "Russian" thugs. A fact you prefer to sidestep.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:41:23 AM EST
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Yeah that also is a fact :country has been split , not good prospect for flourishing economy.They need to have that also in mind.But there are still areas where IMF representatives can monitor economic circumstances but they choose not to see them (they will rather believe coup government that may not even bee in power when those loans actually are to be paid to IMF.I would actually be very couches to give loan to the country that is known for not paying it's bills).
As for UN (military) representatives it is perfectly normal that they are not going to be allowed to go around without permission of all sides in conflict ( if there is a real conflict in Crimea ( I did not hear of any victim yet...    

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:47:02 AM EST
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vbo:
As for UN (military) representatives it is perfectly normal that they are not going to be allowed to go around without permission of all sides in conflict ( if there is a real conflict in Crimea

You're slipping up in your own bullshit. If there's no real conflict, where's the problem? The "Russians" could just let the UN observe and report...

Just some facts: both Russia and Ukraine are UN members and neither has officially rejected the presence of a UN observer. The UN representative (Robert Serry) is in no way military, but a diplomat, and he was on an observation mission. (UN "military" anyway is composed of units of member countries' armies, not of UN personnel).

So what did the UN observer observe? No doubt that there are armed thugs on the "Russian" side just as on the "Ukrainian" side.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 06:27:42 AM EST
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I listened to Dutch radio interview with envoy Serry on the day of the incident. An experienced diplomat, he took the intimidation in stride and never felt to be in physical danger. He sought safety in a cafe and made some calls to the UN HQ in Kyiv. In the meantime a 'spontaneous' demonstration gathered outside the cafe to satisfy the foreign reporters. At the airport, he was kept inside the car for some time until safety was guaranteed by MPs from the Crimean parliament.

Posted @Booman - link

Were the UN envoys send at the request of the illegitimate regime of Western Ukraine?

US Embassy to Kyiv, Ukraine: Truth [Правда in Soviet rhetoric]

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 09:01:51 AM EST
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Oui:
to satisfy the foreign reporters

Are you to be taken seriously?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:05:30 AM EST
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afew

In my post @BooMan I clearly listed UN evidence of the event. On a number of occasions, The Guardian is a pure propaganda mounthpiece. I have no problem to discern fiction from fact. Follow the link!

Shaun Walker in Sevastopol is to be classified as a Judith Miller of the Iraq campaign. Just warmongering, preference of the British readers? I doubt it. From his twitter account, propagating hearsay and the article on Robert Serry has an error in the headline. OK, I wasn't aware Walker reads this blog. I forgot, Shaun Walker was Moscow correspondent for the Independent, you know. Pls stop the bs.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 12:38:34 PM EST
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Oui:
On a number of occasions, The Guardian is a pure propaganda mounthpiece

What has the Guardian got to do with it?

Oui:

I have no problem to discern fiction from fact.

Yes, you do have that kind of pretention. Other people, who consider that there is a fog of propaganda over all these events, are more modest. You could learn from them.

Your final paragraph about Shaun Walker leaves me astounded. What the fuck are you talking about? Where in the exchange above about the UN representative is there any refernce to any of what you write?

Oui:

Pls stop the bs.

Please stop puffing yourself up as one of Internet's great truth-diggers, and give us all a rest here.

Here, it's intelligent debate we look for, not your frantic hair-on-fire rubbish.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 12:54:09 PM EST
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Intelligentsia - superior - exceptionalism ...wow!
Doesn't deserve further thought. A pity.

Read my diary entry of 24.02.2014 and see who is closer to the truth. Indeed rubbish.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 02:57:45 PM EST
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Russia, Ukraine feud over sniper carnage - The Washington Post

A former top security official with Ukraine's main security agency, the SBU, waded into the confusion, in an interview published Thursday with the respected newspaper Dzerkalo Tizhnya. Hennady Moskal, who was deputy head of the agency, told the newspaper that snipers from the Interior Ministry and SBU were responsible for the shootings, not foreign agents.

"In addition to this, snipers received orders to shoot not only protesters, but also police forces. This was all done in order to escalate the conflict, in order to justify the police operation to clear Maidan," he was quoted as saying.

One of the victims of the snipers was Alexander Tonskikh, 57. He told AP that at around 10 a.m. on Feb. 20, he and dozens of opposition fighters moved south out of the main battleground on Maidan.

Riot police withdrew suddenly, he said, and an instant later snipers began firing from at least two different directions, from what seemed to be the rooftops of government buildings, between 200 and 300 yards away.

The rest is rubbish.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 03:17:10 PM EST
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Publication in Дзеркало Tizhnya - Hennadii Moskal, MP from the Fatherland party [id. MP with sniper rifle in car], accuses:

16.01.2014 Berkut forces from Crimea were responsible for escalation of violence on 30 November 2013 under orders from police chiefs Oleg Marynenko.
26.02.2014 Moskal reveals a list of SBU subversive tactics prepared for Maidan revolt
27.02.2014 Moskal states Crimea insurgents are well trained "Berkut" who were discharged by new parliament, seeks urgency
07.03.2014 SBU Nalyvaychenko and Interior Minister Avakov say snipers represented a "third force", rejected by Moskal as a white-wash of its agents

WhoIs Hennadii Moskal

Not at all surprised, a USAID funded NGO Chesno with previous funding by Omidyar:

    According to the leaked papers, a network of interlocking NGOs - Chesno (Honestly), Center UA and Stop Censorship, to name a few - were growing in influence in Ukraine by "targeting pro-Yanukovych politicians with a well-coordinated anti-corruption campaign that built its strength in Ukraine's regions, before massing in Kiev last autumn."

    The fundraising papers show that from October 2011 to December 2012 USAID provided Chesno with a hefty sum of over $421,000, while also planting nine of Center UA experts on its staff whose duty it was to manage the NGO's affairs on the regional level, coordinate its efforts, provide photo and video coverage, as well as creative input.

You're welcome. These NGO links were covered in Pando article and my earlier diaries.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Mon Mar 10th, 2014 at 03:29:16 AM EST
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Ah, the truth, the truth, the truth.

<yawn>

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 03:19:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Steve Bell on Barack Obama, David Cameron and Ukraine | Comment is free | The Guardian

© Steve Bell 2014


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:38:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In the field of unintended consequences, an interesting one is the new Ukrainian government's turn to Yanukovych-friendly oligarchs to keep Eastern and Southern Ukraine in the wake of Russian intervention in Crimea. Here is the rationale from the viewpoint of the oligarchs:

Ukraine: Are oligarch appointments at odds with new sense of fairness? | World news | The Observer

Although most of Ukraine's business elite have strong ties with Moscow, if the east of the country were to fall under the influence of the Kremlin then Ukraine's billionaires would quickly be overrun by their wealthier and better connected Russian counterparts. "The Ukrainian oligarchs have no political influence over Putin," says Leshchenko. "If the east were to secede, their businesses would be snatched. They would become the small businessmen of a Russian province".

As for using an oligarch in East Ukraine, here is the rationale of the government:

Following days of unrest, including pro-Russia rallies and the storming of the parliament building in Donetsk by Moscow's supporters, the region now seems to be slowly calming down. Pro-Russia squatters have now been removed from the administration building, and on the orders of the newly appointed regional governor and Ukraine's 16th-richest man, Serhiy Taruta, the pro-Kremlin activists' leader, Pavel Gubarev, has been arrested.

..."Those who think there was an alternative are not being realistic. Now the Party of the Regions [the pro-Russian party led by Yanukovych] has effectively gone, the oligarchs are the only actors with potential to stabilise this region," says Adam Swain, economic geographer at the University of Nottingham and a field researcher in Donetsk for more than 20 years.

..."Donetsk today is almost unrecognisable to the place I first visited in the 90s," says Swain. "The infrastructure and standard of living have improved immensely. The oligarchs have won respect here for their role in this."

Well, we'll see in the following days and weeks if that's the case. At any rate, in Donetsk at least, it seems that the pro-Russian protesters didn't represent a majority, and support for secessionism might be more limited than in the Crimea.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 02:45:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ukrainian TV companies unite and write open letter to Russian media | Media | theguardian.com

Ukraine's nationwide TV channels are broadcasting under a common logo, the flag of Ukraine, and a slogan in both Ukrainian and Russian: Yedyna Krayina/Yedinaya Strana (United Country).

The initiative was launched five days ago (2 March) by Ukraine's five major media groups - Media Group Ukraine, Inter Media Group, Starlight Media, 1+1 Media and 5th Channel.<>...The chiefs of each group have also signed an open letter to the director-generals ("colleagues and friends") of three Russian media organisations - JSC Channel One, the All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company and JSC NTV.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:39:18 PM EST
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"We have a single country to live in and shared values to unite us," says the press release issued by the media groups' executives. "There is nothing to come between us. There is nothing for us to quarrel over."

Yeah...we in ex YU also once had "single country to live in and shared values to unite us"...then came USA/EU...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:41:49 PM EST
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...and Milo and Tuđman and a hundred thousand willing executioners.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:09:37 AM EST
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As if the USA and EU were sole responsible for what happened.

Can we have a bit of decency from you?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:43:11 AM EST
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Of course they were not sole responsible but if it wasn't for USA /EU (especially Germany in EU) to stir things up in that crucial times, those wars were not inevitable.But they saw opportunity (with Russia being on its knees) to put TWO BIG military bases in Bosnia and Kosovo (USA/NATO iterest) and economic advantages of having practically whole central/south/eastern Europe  under control of their capital.
It's a long story but this situation gave Milosevic such a big power in Serbia.  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 04:31:15 AM EST
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I agree about US interference. It's all the same true that there was plenty of appetite for internecine fighting, and it's far from sure everything would have remained peaceful absent US interference.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:03:46 AM EST
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if it wasn't for USA /EU (especially Germany in EU) to stir things up in that crucial times, those wars were not inevitable

Bullshit. You can blame the Kohl government (and there was no EU back then) for escalating things by recognising Croatia's independence, but if anything, that only accelerated a process started by Milo and Tuđman and bound to continue with such leaders and all the militiamen arming themselves in the villages. And that guaranteed split-up due to internal forces already, whatever happened later. As for what happened later:

  • Bosnia was pretty much ethnic cleansed and destroyed by the time the West intervened mlitarily.
  • The USA supported Tuđman in his reconquista, but mutual ethnic cleansing at the ethnic borders and de-facto separation was already fact by then, and the USA didn't tell Tuđman to ethnic cleanse the Krajina Serbs, that was his own policy and absent any foreign intervention would have come sooner or later anyway.
  • The split-ups in which the West really had a strong role were Serbia–Montenegro and Serbia–Kosovo. But here, again, it's not like things have been and would have continued to be nice and peaceful without any foreign intervention.

The West can be blamed for a lot, especially for bombing Serbia's civilian infrastructure, but blaming the entire civil war is just revoltingly stupid.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 07:08:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Majority of Germans against anti-Russia economic sanctions | Business | DW.DE | 07.03.2014

The survey indicated widespread public support for Chancellor Angela Merkel's policy of trying to stay away from anything but symbolic sanctions and backing the concept of a contact group that would reopen direct communications between Moscow and Kyiv.

A total of 77 percent of Germans appeared to strictly oppose any considerations of excluding Russia from the G8 group of nations, while 92 percent believed severing diplomatic relations was completely out of the question.

Seventy-two percent of Germans supported economic help for Ukraine, while only 12 percent backed any military cooperation with Kyiv.

As I observed, this time the media is the most gung-ho and Atlanticist and doesn't even contain its displeasure with politics (and now the population). FAlso worth to recall how the New York Times mis-interpreted Merkel.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:39:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well what can I say...Germans are at least rational and pragmatic people...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:45:08 PM EST
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This is careless, with 60% of the people of Crimea regarding themselves as Russian, they don't have to fix the result like that

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 02:48:31 AM EST
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What do you mean, careless? If it weren't the fashion to find everything Russia does is simply splendid, we'd be calling that dictatorial.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:45:15 AM EST
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In the current heated environment I would argue that any such referendum would be highly pernicious.

The fact that they are cheating doesn't make it an unfair referendum, it just illustrates the unfairness for even the dumbest onlooker. Therefore, careless.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 12:41:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Fairly scholastic argument... ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 12:51:27 PM EST
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I'll be clearer. I don't think Russia cares about the appearance of democracy. What Russia cares about is a show of in-your-face whatya-gonna-do-about-it force.

The use of "careless" implies a mistake. There is no mistake.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 03:14:09 AM EST
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What Russia cares about is a show of in-your-face whatya-gonna-do-about-it force.

You are right.They finally learned from Americans to use USA tactics. What else can one do when approached with a bully?  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:36:58 AM EST
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Huh, everyone is cheating everywhere.But in Crimea Russians do not have to cheat.
Here in Australia they are going to repeat election for Senate in WA "after the Australian Electoral Commission petitioned for last September's vote to be declared void, after it lost 1375 ballots during a recount."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/western-australia-to-face-new-senate-election/story -fn59niix-1226832666548
Huh and it is only found because they had to re count votes few times there.If they had to re count everywhere else God knows what they would find.


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:33:35 AM EST
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Brooklyn only finished counting the votes for US President after 6 months. Beth Shemesh in Israel is redoing the elections after a large amount of false voting by the Haredim was documented. But at least there's one election that will not need a recount: North Korea is having elections today....
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 08:47:06 AM EST
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Nationalism and unchecked violence in Bulgaria | Europe | DW.DE | 06.03.2014

Last year, Petko Elenkov, a security guard, shot and killed a Roma teenager, who had allegedly jumped over the wall of a refrigerator depot in Sofia in order to steal scrap metal. Elenkov, 50, denies any wrongdoing. A year on, the trial still hasn't begun.

Elenkov was released on a 5000 leva (2500 euro) bail prompting Roma minority groups to demonstrate on the streets, calling for justice. Nationalist and pro-Nazi demonstrations ensued.

"Nationalism is on the rise in Bulgaria," Daniela Mikhaylova, who heads the Equal Opportunities Initiative, an NGO based in Sofia's Roma ghetto, told DW. In her opinion, this "new level of violence came as a result of a specific nationalist attitude that has gone unchecked for too long. When such violence happens and people in the media forums write things like, 'Very good, they [Roma] got what they deserved,' people start thinking that this reaction is something natural and even legitimate."

... Many of the state institutions today are influenced by Ataka - a nationalistic party that entered parliament for the first time in 2005, winning close to nine percent of the vote. Today, an Ataka MP presides over the parliamentary ethics commission, and the party has its own representative in the commission for protection against discrimination. "It's no big surprise that their rulings are often supporting the discrimination, rather than fighting it," said Kanev



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:42:13 PM EST
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From what I saw the roma do seem to be located in separate areas in Bulgaria, even within small towns. And guns are readily available there.

If they start passing laws against the roma and try to enforce them, bullets will fly.

It's daft as this is "middle class" prejudice. From what I saw, most people in BG know and like roma people, regard them as brilliant market traders who can always get things others cannot at prices people can actually afford. They may live just down the road and keep themselves to themselves, but they are seen as neighbours.

And more importantly  they usually control the village rakia still. Mess with that and you are really in troulbe.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 03:02:44 AM EST
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Madrid's central square blighted by protests, says mayor | World news | The Guardian

Whether it's thousands of indignados camping out for weeks or a handful of older people rallying against a freeze in pensions, the backdrop is almost always the same: Madrid's Puerta del Sol square.

And that's a problem, according to the city's mayor, Ana Botella, local businesses and the regional government, who are calling on the interior ministry to limit the number of protests in the Spanish capital's best known and busiest square.

...The mayor's response elicited derision from union leader Luis Miguel López Reillo. "The ideas of our mayor are often a bit strange," said the secretary general of the Unión General de Trabajadores. "How can you call it a protected area when it's a public space that belongs to Madrid and its citizens?" he said.

..."I think there are bigger problems in Madrid that she could focus on," he said.

It may be within these bigger problems that the solution lies, one politician suggested delicately. As Ángel Pérez, spokesperson for the leftwing coalition Izquierda Unida in Madrid recently said: "If they want to avoid protests in Puerta del Sol, all the government has to do is stop applying the harmful policies that are generating these protests."



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:42:28 PM EST
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No IRA fugitives safe from arrest - Northern Ireland secretary | UK news | theguardian.com

In a speech at lunchtime on Friday, Theresa Villiers will say that even the 187 IRA "on-the-runs" - members who are wanted in either Great Britain or Northern Ireland for crimes committed during the Troubles between 1969 and 1998 - would not be immune from future arrests or detentions.

Villiers will tell a gathering of European journalists in Belfast that "no-one holding one of these letters should be in any doubt, they are not 'get-out-of-jail-free cards'".

...While in power, Labour attempted in 2005 to introduce legislation to grant immunity from prosecution for IRA fugitives who were wanted in the UK for past crimes. When the opposition scuppered the legislation after objections from Dublin and the nationalist SDLP, Labour created a secret scheme giving 187 IRA "on-the-runs" the letters of assurance.

The existence of the letters was revealed at the Old Bailey two weeks ago when defence lawyers produced one held by John Downey, a convicted IRA member who was standing trial for the 1982 Hyde Park bomb atrocity. As a result of the letter being produced in court, the case against Downey collapsed.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:42:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That's gonna be an interesting court case. Is the legal commitment of one government binding upon its successor?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 03:04:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]
In constitutional theory, no.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 03:28:02 PM EST
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In governmental practice, yes. This is the equivalent of diplomacy. No government with any sense of responsibility will throw out continuity of practice on such a crucial matter. This is a black day for the UK.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:24:46 PM EST
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http://nahnews.com.ua/sasha-beliy-was-put-on-the-international-wanted-list/


"Muzychko brutally tortured captive military men of Russia, and murdered them afterwards. Muzychko personally tortured, and then murdered at least 20 captive soldiers of troops of federal forces during the indicated period, demanding the necessary information," RIA Novosti quotes an official representative of the Russian Investigative Committee Vladimir Markin.

Bullet is to expensive to spend on this scum...he'll end up the same way he ended lives of his enemies, I am sure.It's just a matter of how many UKRAINIANS will now have to die by his hand until he's gone.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 02:28:43 AM EST
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Face of Maidan revolution.
I know that most of the people that came to Maidan were there to protest corrupted government and to ask for better life ( naively believing that money will flow in if they just sign with EU and IMF) and I am sure they are ashamed by Sashenka representing them.
They should go to Maidan NOW and ask for investigation to snipers killers, ask for people like this scum to be put behind bars instead in government, ask responsibility for those who put them in this situation where they are on the brink of either civil war or war with Russia or even WWIII that is going to start then on their soil (and burn place to the ground), they should ask EU and Americans " Show us the money" not some dirty loans with strings attached that already destroyed much richer Greece and Portugal, and are soon to destroy Spain and Italy...that left even Brits so poor etc. There are many questions that they should ask. But yeah...there is no one to organize them...and there is no such a thing like "spontaneous revolution" to succeed...ever...  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 02:45:33 AM EST
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Sasha Beliy was put on the international wanted list | KHARKOV NEWS AGENCY

Investigators of Russia opened a criminal case against a well-known Ukrainian nationalist Alexandr Muzychko (Sasha Beliy) in connection with gangsterism and creation of the organized criminal group. He is accused of mass murders of the Russian military men in Chechnya in 1994-2000.

Hm, he is an asshole whether the Russian authorities' claims are true or not, but why open a case against him just now?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:15:56 AM EST
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That's right.Why now? Why not before? Those murderers can be very useful sometimes even if they are not on our side, even if they are just portraying the other side...huh all kinds of conspiracy theories come to my mind...  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 06:23:46 AM EST
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Vbo, why do you conclude that the allegations of Russian authorities put to investigation under such questionable circumstances are true?

Further, did Russian authorities investigate any Russian soldiers for the documented war crimes in Chechnya?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 06:54:13 AM EST
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As  for allegations of Russian authorities about Sashenka I do not need more then to see those videos that we have seen to start to believe.It is obvious that this scum is capable of doing what he is promising in videos to his victims. I am all for investigation. I know his kind, we had them during our wars on all sides.
As for Russian solders doing war crimes , honestly if it's for me I would investigate them too.But I assume no one would dare to do that just the same way as no one is investigating USA solders and mercenaries war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan,Libya...you name it (or Vietnam for that matter). I suppose that's usually case when you are super power...and American's even excluded themselves from International law.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 07:05:12 AM EST
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As  for allegations of Russian authorities about Sashenka I do not need more then to see those videos that we have seen to start to believe.

So it's looks.

I am all for investigation.

So you believe it will be fair?

BTW, what do you think of this guy?

Pavel Gubarev - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He was member of the neo-nazi Russian National Unity[1] and, later, of Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine.

Gubarev had led Russian protesters who blockaded the Donetsk regional administration building and flew the Russian flag.

He put forward a number of demands to the local authorities, including the holding of a referendum on the status of the region.

During press-conference with journalists on March 6, 2014 his main message as a self-proclaimed governor was: referendum on the territorial status of Donetsk Oblast and non-recognition of Kyiv authorities and the central government's appointed governor, oligarch Serhiy Taruta.[2]

Found a photo with him in his RNU uniform:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 01:59:55 PM EST
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BTW, the new PM of Crimea is an "interesting" guy, too:

Sergey Aksyonov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some sources have alleged that Aksyonov served in the mid 1990s as a lieutenant or overseer in the organized criminal gang "Salem".[11] In the early 1990s, the gang fought a deadly contest with the rival "Bashmaki" that killed 30 people in Simferopol in one month of 1991, but by the mid-1990s, as their membership grew to 1200, they had taken a less violent approach, and in 1995 forty of their members had taken office as local deputies, receiving deputy inviolability.[12][13][14][15]

In 2010, Aksyonov sued Mikhail Bakharev, vice speaker of the Crimean parliament, for making statements of this kind. Although the court of the original jurisdiction ruled for Aksyonov and demanded that Bakharev to publish a retraction, the decision was overturned by an appellate court which determined that there was not evidence to disprove the allegations.[16] Andriy Senchenko, a Crimean member of Verkhovna Rada from Batkivshchyna party alleged that Aksyonov was involved in these activities together with Supreme Council Chairman, Volodymyr Konstantinov.[12][17][18] [19][20]

As for his legitimacy:

Since 2010 he was a deputy of the Supreme Council of Crimea, elected as a member of Russian Unity, which had 4% of votes (warranting 3 seats of total 100 in Crimean parliament) during elections into Supreme Council of Crimea.[6]

On February 27 during the 2014 Crimean crisis an emergency session was held by the Crimean legislature. A motion was passed with 55 of 64 votes that elected Aksyonov Prime Minister.[7]

For the record, the Crimean parliament has 100 seats in total, and the elected government was deposed and the current puppet government was elected after 60 Russian soldiers stormed parliament (in a quite literal re-enactment of the Russian propaganda explanation for the desertion of Party of the Regions MPs in the Ukrainian parliament).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 03:11:46 PM EST
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I do not want to repeat my self over and over again.Russians simply are giving Americans their own "medicine" or what Putin famously said :"When you are surrounded by wolves you need to howl " or something like that.
Seems like there is no other way. USA having 700 or 800 military bases in who knows how many ( occupied) countries now needed to have this one on the steps of Russian house.Someone needed to stop them, I suppose.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:51:42 AM EST
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 I am all for investigation.

So you believe it will be fair?


Well if it's done by Kiev only I do not believe it will be fair. It should be done by independent entity (but hey where you can find anything independent nowadays?)  as well as (legal)representatives all both sides in this conflict...Well we can dream about it.
 
BTW, what do you think of this guy?

Guys like him will be used in events like this one.They certainly can't rely on people like you and me. On any side of conflict.I am not surprised. If there are allegations ( evidence)that he (or anyone else for that matter) killed people or sadistically mistreated people (like Sashenka evidently did ) I am all for investigation about him too. No difference. I know that in clashes during any protest even peaceful people can come to the point to physically fight (it's a special situation when fear can make people very violent). Even then there are "rules of engagement" when it comes to court. But what we have seen Sashenka on daily bases abusing peaceful officials in Ukraine.Let Russians present their evidence...  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 10th, 2014 at 12:24:52 AM EST
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The secret role of the Dutch in the American war on terror - nrc.nl

The Somali telecommunications intercepted in Burum are collected to support the Dutch navy mission in the Gulf of Aden. But the Americans are likely to be doing something else with it altogether.

According to the British Bureau of Investigative Journalism, the US has conducted between five and eight drone strikes in Somalia since 2011. Between 10 and 24 people were killed. According to the US, most of them were senior members of the extremist Al-Shabaab movement, which last year openly allied itself with Al-Qaeda.

Metadata play a crucial role in these `targeted killings', according to research by the American website The Intercept, run by journalists Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras.

Secret NSA documents show that the monitoring service works closely with the CIA and Joint Special Operations Command, which carries out the attacks. Greenwald and his colleague Scahill spoke to a drone operator who worked for the JSCOC. This anonymous source said the JSCOC leans heavily on signal intelligence. `Everything they turned into a kinetic strike or a night raid was almost 90 percent that,' he said. `You could tell, because you'd go back to the mission reports and it will say `this mission was triggered by SIGINT.'

by Bjinse on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 04:20:11 AM EST
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The Dutch government is deeply involved in the Echelon network or what has become the "fourteen eyes." In my diary, it's clear the Burum dishes are in support of the NSA, telephone taps are delegated to Israel's Verint company and due to strategic Internet trunk lines undoubtedly these are tapped. Israel's Mossad has established an HQ in Amsterdam, most likely under cover of El Al airlines at Schiphol airport.

Also posted @TikunOlam - NSA Maintains Secret "Five Eyes" Satellite Facility in Israel.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 08:08:51 AM EST
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/07/eu-leaders-gas-russia-ukraine

EU leaders are rapidly drawing up plans to send some of their stocks of Russian gas back to Ukraine and other eastern European countries that need it, if Vladimir Putin reacts to western sanctions over the Crimea crisis by starving the continent of energy.

Wouldn't it be much easier and cheaper too simply PAY THE BILL ?
I do not understand these people...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 05:39:29 AM EST
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You think the only reason Putin would cut off the gas would be because the bill wasn't paid? And whose bill anyway? The whole European continent? Because all Europe owes Russia money?

I don't understand you...

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:51:30 AM EST
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Right now Russia said:they will cut it because of almost 2 billion unpaid bill BY UKRAINE.
If anything I learned living in western civilization it would be that I MUST PAY MY BILLS ( or else...).I can hate my Power company , even my government as much as I want but I have to pay my bills. Some people choose not to pay but then their credit record is so bad and their chance to get any kind of loan by any other bank or any decent financial institution is zero.
If Ukrainians think that they can avoid paying their debts I have a bridge in London UK to sell them.
USA could afford to be a bully and  to occupy the country when bill is due but not for long any more.And we are talking Russia here not Libya.As English would say: There is no such a thing as free lunch.Ukraine is in a deep shit so they better stop digging. EU is in similar position. Read my lips:without Russian oil and gas EVERYONE in Europe will feel additional pain and for Ukraine and some Eastern Europe countries it is one word : C O L A P S.  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 04:07:46 AM EST
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You're talking about their gas bill only. Some estimates are that their total debt is $80 billion, probably up to $100 billion by the summer, and their reserves are shrinking fast. They can't pay it, so they won't, whatever western civilisation teaches.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 04:17:37 AM EST
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Sadly. the bills are bloating out of reality - and not just for Ukraine and college students. With Western financial imperatives staying solid, the economy of this century will be dominated by bickering about debts and bills of the last merry 20 years.
by das monde on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:12:52 AM EST
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Ukraine's relationship with Russia concerning gas has always been incestuous. The law that says "you must pay your bills" doesn't apply, or hasn't for the past 20-odd years.

Admittedly, if Ukraine really wants to be independent of Russia, that would have to change.

As for the EU, it's not in Russia's interest to inflict real pain, so it won't happen. Just as the EU will not attempt to inflict any pain on Russia over Ukraine.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:15:14 AM EST
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afew:
Just as the EU will not attempt to inflict any pain on Russia over Ukraine.

Just so:
France says warship deal with Russia still alive - Yahoo News

(AFP) - French President Francois Hollande said a controversial sale of two state-of-the art warships by France to Russia was still on course despite Moscow's widely opposed stand over Crimea.

The 2011 sale of the Mistral warships, worth one billion euros ($1.4 billion), was already a deep source of concern for France's NATO and European Union allies, coming only a few years after Russia's invasion of Georgia.

But despite the threat of another war involving Russia, Hollande, who was in Brussels at a European summit on the Ukrainian crisis, said France's commitment to deliver the military vessels was still alive.

"We respect our signed contracts," Hollande said. "We are not yet at that stage and we hope to avoid getting there," he said, referring to the potential of halting the deal.

And:
London's Laundry Business - NYTimes.com

On Monday, a British civil servant was photographed arriving in Downing Street for a national security council meeting with an open document in his hand. We could read for ourselves lines from a confidential report on how Prime Minister David Cameron's government should respond to the Crimea crisis. It recommended that Britain should "not support, for now, trade sanctions," nor should it "close London's financial center to Russians."

The White House has imposed visa restrictions on some Russian officials, and President Obama has issued an executive order enabling further sanctions. But Britain has already undermined any unified action by putting profit first.

It boils down to this: Britain is ready to betray the United States to protect the City of London's hold on dirty Russian money. And forget about Ukraine


h/t Helen.
by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 05:36:08 AM EST
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Sorry for that spelling, I meant C O L L A P S E....

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 06:26:29 AM EST
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A Peace Plan for Ukraine - The Globalist

In order to achieve these goals, I propose the following set of agreements:

1. A five-year moratorium on offers to Ukraine of accession or partnership agreements with the Eurasian Union, the EU or NATO.

2. Thereafter, a constitutional amendment would be introduced, making ratification of any such agreement dependent on a majority of at least 70% of voters in a referendum.

3. Russia reaffirms its agreement to the new elections in May. The elections will be supervised and monitored by the UN, to prevent intimidation by nationalist or pro-Russian forces.

4. Russia withdraws its troops in Crimea to military bases. The Ukrainian government cancels its military alert as well as its call-up of reservists.

5. Russia recognizes the new government in Kiev as legitimate on a provisional basis -- in return for placing the Defense, Security and Interior ministries under neutral professional officials.

6. A promise by the new government in Kiev not to pass any laws banning political parties or carrying out lustrations of former or serving officials, and not to take any action to replace elected officials and councils in eastern and southern Ukraine. The carrots

If Russia agrees to these terms, then the existing Western threats of non-attendance at the G8 Summit in Sochi in early June 2014, and of economic and other sanctions, should be suspended.

If the government in Kiev agrees to them, then the international community should move to put together a financial rescue package for Ukraine.

No doubt, these terms will be difficult for both Russia and Ukraine to accept:

  • Russia because it would involve abandoning Russian recognition of Yanukovych as elected president (though Putin has said publicly himself that he does not think that Yanukovych has any political future);
  • the new Ukrainian government because it would have to accept certain internationally mandated restrictions on its internal actions.

Without an agreement however, developments on the ground -- for example, actions by both Ukrainian and pro-Russian militias to seize control of provincial governments in the East and South -- could easily bring about a war that neither Kiev nor Moscow desires.

that threads the needle quite well

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 09:21:28 AM EST
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Didn't he leave out the most important part, namely what that economic rescue plan should look like?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 09:31:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]
that would come by reining in the oligarchs, slim chance!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 12:33:58 PM EST
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It's a wishful thinking by west...
2. Thereafter, a constitutional amendment would be introduced, making ratification of any such agreement dependent on a majority of at least 70% of voters in a referendum.

  1. Russia reaffirms its agreement to the new elections in May. The elections will be supervised and monitored by the UN, to prevent intimidation by nationalist or pro-Russian forces.

  2. Russia withdraws its troops in Crimea to military bases. The Ukrainian government cancels its military alert as well as its call-up of reservists.

  3. Russia recognizes the new government in Kiev as legitimate on a provisional basis -- in return for placing the Defense, Security and Interior ministries under neutral professional officials.

There is no way Russians will agree with the above...
I do not think there is a way back to anything that even looks like a deal with this government...and who can blame them.The agreement signed on 21 February by this government and representatives of EU is not even good to be used as toilet paper...Trust has been LOST!
The point of no return has been reached. They Russians are going to ask for HUGE concessions if they are ever to sign anything ...and it has to be signed by USA.
Honestly me personally  would have even less trust in USA but hey.
As I can't see USA willingly being humiliated like that I bet it is going to be Status quo for many years...Russians will de facto rule Crimea and maybe even some other cities locally and (whatever)government in Kiev will keep repeating "We will defend unite Ukraine and sign agreement with EU" and bla bla bla.Little bit of money will come to Ukraine but will be used to pay loans to IMF and westerners and they will secretly start paying bit of the bill to Russians just enough to stop them cutting...NATO will have to postpone building and positioning their military base in Ukraine in hope that Russians will be again seen on their knees (sooner then USA , haha).
Either this or WWIII...which is definitely not in anyone interest. Or maybe USA will simply train and pay low level insurgency and terrorists just to destabilize the region where Russians are with the mentality "if I can't have it you will not have it easy way"...  


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 06:52:24 AM EST
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http://williamblum.org/aer/read/126
Since the end of the Cold War the United States has been surrounding Russia, building one base after another, ceaselessly looking for new ones, including in Ukraine; one missile site after another, with Moscow in range; NATO has grabbed one former Soviet Republic after another. The White House, and the unquestioning American mainstream media, have assured us that such operations have nothing to do with Russia. And Russia has been told the same, much to Moscow's continuous skepticism. "Look," said Russian president Vladimir Putin about NATO some years ago, "is this is a military organization? Yes, it's military. ... Is it moving towards our border? It's moving towards our border. Why?"

The Holy Triumvirate would love to rip Ukraine from the Moscow bosom, evict the Russian Black Sea Fleet, and establish a US military and/or NATO presence on Russia's border. (In case you were wondering what prompted the Russian military action.) Kiev's membership in the EU would then not be far off; after which the country could embrace the joys of neo-conservatism, receiving the benefits of the standard privatization-deregulation-austerity package and join Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain as an impoverished orphan of the family; but no price is too great to pay to for being part of glorious Europe and the West!


Why this is not obvious to anybody?

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 07:24:55 AM EST
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The Ukrainian insurgents and their Western-power supporters didn't care who their Ukrainian allies were in carrying out their coup against President Viktor Yanukovych last month ... thugs who set policemen on fire head to toe ... all manner of extreme right-wingers, including Chechnyan Islamic militants ... a deputy of the ultra-right Svoboda Party, part of the new government, who threatens to rebuild Ukraine's nukes in three to six months. ... the snipers firing on the protestors who apparently were not what they appeared to be - A bugged phone conversation between Urmas Paet, the Estonian foreign minister, and EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton, reveals Paet saying: "There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition." ... neo-Nazi protestors in Kiev who have openly denounced Jews, hoisting a banner honoring Stepan Bandera, the infamous Ukrainian nationalist who collaborated with the German Nazis during World War II and whose militias participated in atrocities against Jews and Poles.
...All in all a questionable gang of allies for a dubious cause; reminiscent of the Kosovo Liberation Army thugs Washington put into power for an earlier regime change, and has kept in power since 1999.

So true...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 07:29:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
How can you have been around ET so long without seeing that we have been saying all along that there was an American strategy of surrounding and containing Russia? You've never noticed that we didn't support any of the "Color Revolutions"?

What is so annoying about your non-stop angry posting (and it is beginning to become almost spam) is that you don't seem to have read and understood anything that has been said here for years.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 08:09:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I am trying to read as much as I can here...but it seems to me ( maybe I am wrong) that when it comes to Russia some of you ( not all) simply can't resist to make that position of the "enemy"...no matter what is the case.Try to put yourselves in your enemy shoes for a minute.NATO is coming to their borders...it would be like if Russian come to put military base in New Mexico.What you expect them to do?
I am not saying that you are not criticizing USA and EU to some degree but when it comes to foreign policy toward Russia in my view some of you just lose objectivity big time.
To you I may appear pro Russian , but I am not, or anti American , and again I am not but simply put imperialistic foreign policy of USA/NATO/West  is simply disgusting.And even more then that what goes on my nerves is blatant propaganda in western media. I did not even see it this clearly during Balkan wars or even NATO war on Serbia as I am seeing it now when I live in western world.Goebbels was a naive amateur comparing to this.That makes my blood boil... Am I annoying? Well maybe...If I am not that much interested in European affairs I would probably just go to MoA where honestly I can see that even Americans are more aware of what's happening and are widely critical of their own policies. I may leave you alone for a while...      

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 08:39:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I am trying to read as much as I can here...but it seems to me ( maybe I am wrong) that when it comes to Russia some of you ( not all) simply can't resist to make that position of the "enemy"

Troll-rated for vague, unnamed accusations. Those generate bad blood and contribute to a breakdown of the mutual presumption of good faith.

If you want to accuse people of bias, then name names and link to examples.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:22:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
vbo:
I would probably just go to MoA where honestly I can see that even Americans are more aware of what's happening and are widely critical of their own policies. I may leave you alone for a while...    

MoA might be a better fit for your ideas. You sure don't understand what it's about here.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:01:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Which is to say that MoA sadly lost touch with reality some time ago.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:24:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Am I the only one here who doesn't know what MoA stands for?

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:32:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Moon of Alabama.

A site where former followers of Billmon congregated when Billmon closed comments on hsi blog ten years ago. (See @billmon1 for what Billmon does now). A number of early ET members were also MoA commenters.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:54:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
...and in case you wonder, Billmon was a particularly articulate blogger who became one of the most-read bloggers during the outbreak of the Iraq War, and also had views on troubling developments in the financial world and so on. But he got fed up with blogging and stopped it entirely a few months after stopping his comments, and even took down his site.

(BTW I'm not among those who used to be a MoA commenter, but read the blog.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 02:23:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You're too young!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 12:48:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
it seems to me ( maybe I am wrong) that when it comes to Russia some of you ( not all) simply can't resist to make that position of the "enemy"...no matter what is the case.

As I said to you a few days ago, when you slur people, name names. Since you persist in this, I troll-rated you, too.

what goes on my nerves is blatant propaganda in western media

That goes on the nerves of every single ET reader. But what goes also on my nerves is your simplistic black-and-white take that makes you read uncritically and adopt even the silliest and most transparent propaganda and conspiracy theories issued by others than Western governments and MSM, and makes you blind to the actual opinions of other people (leading to this accusation of seeing Russia as the enemy).

Am I annoying? Well maybe...

Your self-reflection always ends up as only self-justification.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 02:18:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Clumsy Greed of the U.S. and the West on Full Display in Ukraine Disaster | Alternet
So any mediation now hinges on Germany. Berlin has no time for "sanctions" -- the sacrosanct American exceptionalist mantra; Russia is a plush market for German industry. And for all the vociferations at the Economist and the Financial Times, the City of London also does not want sanctions; the financial center feeds on lavish Russian politico/oligarch funds. As for the West's "punishment" for Russia by threatening to expel it from the Group of Eight, that is a joke. The G-8, which excludes China, does not decide anything relevant anymore; the G-20 does. 

If a wide-ranging poll were to be conducted today, it would reveal that the majority of Ukrainians don't want to be part of the E.U. -- as much as the majority of Europeans don't want the Ukraine in the E.U. What's left for millions of Ukrainians is the bloodsucking IMF, to be duly welcomed by "Yats" (as Prime Minister Yatsenyuk is treated by Vic "F**k the E.U." Nuland). 

Ukraine is slouching towards federalization. The Kiev regime-changers will have no say on autonomous Crimea -- which most certainly will remain part of Ukraine (and Russia by the way will save $90 million in annual rent for the Sevastopol base, which until now was payable to Kiev.) 

The endgame is all but written; Moscow controls an autonomous Crimea for free, and the U.S./E.U. "control," or try to plunder, disaster capitalism-style, a back of beyond western Ukraine wasteland "managed" by a bunch of Western puppets and oligarchs, with a smattering of neo-nazis. 


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 09:29:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
France May Send Russia Warships - The Daily Beast

France said it still plans to deliver two aircraft carriers to the Russian Navy despite this whole invading a sovereign country for no good reason thing. As Russia moves troops into Crimea region, and the European Union weighs punishment, France seems unwilling to dump the deal. 

bizniz rulz

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 09:36:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
 ECONOMY & FINANCE 


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:42:53 PM EST
Brussels rings French deficit alarm | EurActiv

France and Slovenia are the only two countries to have received a specific recommendation from the EU executive on public deficits.

During the presentation of its country-specific analysis of macroeconomic imbalances on 5 March, the Commission has used "a new instrument to attract the attention of two eurozone member states, namely France and Slovenia on the risk of non-compliance with the recommended budget target for this year."



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:43:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Brussels renews criticism of German trade surplus | EurActiv

Significant economic imbalances exist in 14 EU member states, according to the Commission's latest in-depth review of macroeconomic imbalances, presented on Wednesday (5 March).

...The report echoes previous warnings from the José Manuel Barroso, the Commission President, who urged Germany last November to do more to address economic imbalances in the eurozone by opening up its services market and allowing wages to rise at a faster pace.

...The fact that Germany exports much more than it imports "reflects strong competitiveness," the Commission report says, but "it is also a sign that domestic growth has remained subdued and economic resources may not have been allocated efficiently," it points out.

...the German government now seems to be more open-minded. For the first time, an internal paper from the economics ministry acknowledges that excessive and sustained trade imbalances are harmful for the stability of the eurozone, the Süddeutsche Zeitung reported on Wednesday. As a result, it is right for the Commission to put such imbalances under the microscope, the document said.



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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:43:14 PM EST
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Female employment in Germany way above EU average | Business | DW.DE | 07.03.2014
The rate of female workers in Germany has risen significantly over the past decade, the statistics office has said. Female employment is way above the EU average, but this applies above all to the low-wage sector.


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:43:28 PM EST
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Low-wage and part-time at two days a week.

Works wonders for the unemployment rate.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:51:18 PM EST
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Osborne faces £20bn black hole in UK public finances, says report | Business | theguardian.com
George Osborne is facing a £20bn black hole in the public finances, which means austerity may have to continue until 2020, according to research by the Financial Times.


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:43:41 PM EST
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Of course. Does anyone suspect that Osborne will ever want to end the politically convenient excuses for austerity

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 03:07:45 AM EST
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Hah...at least Slovenia is in good company, haha

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 10:51:27 PM EST
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EUobserver / Stiglitz: ECB should scrap inflation targets

BRUSSELS - The European Central Bank (ECB) should scrap its target to keep price inflation at 2 percent, Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz said on Thursday (6 March).

Speaking at an event organised by the European Parliament's Socialist group, Stiglitz said central banks should look to strike a balance between controlling inflation and supporting job creation.

"The ECB's mandate needs to be changed," he noted.



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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:43:53 PM EST
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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 08:16:14 PM EST
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OOOPPPSS! Where is the money?I can inform you that they did not pay much here in Australia too.And not just them...
Now, one can ask how that was possible to happen? Yeah it did not happen by accident and it wasn't secret for our "respectable" governments...but hey it's just another conspiracy theory. When ever things are in the open, naked, and governments have no answer to them "it's conspiracy theory" . while it is obvious that our/western (read American)governments are deeply in bad with all those corporations that are not paying tax...anywhere.  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 11:02:43 PM EST
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 WORLD 


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:44:06 PM EST
ICC tribunal finds Katanga complicit in war crimes in Congo | News | DW.DE | 07.03.2014
The International Criminal Court has found a Congolese ex-militia boss complicit in war crimes in an attack on a village in the DRC. He was acquitted, however, of charges he used child solders in the incident.


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:44:17 PM EST
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/09/libya-threatens-bomb-north-korean-flagged-tanker


Libya threatens to bomb North Korean-flagged tanker if it takes oil from rebels

Prime minister warns of an `environmental disaster' if tanker leaves rebel-held port of Es Sider with oil cargo
The rebels, who have seized three major Libyan ports since August to press their demands for more autonomy, warned Tripoli against staging an attack to halt the oil sale after the tanker docked at Es Sider terminal, one of the country's biggest. The vessel started loading crude late at night, oil officials said.

The government is struggling to control militias that helped topple Muammar Gaddafi in 2011 but kept their weapons and now challenge state authority.


Huh... this is a legacy of USA "liberation"...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 08:09:48 AM EST
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And this

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/09/iraq-checkpoint-suicide-bomb-hilla

Iraq suicide bomb attack leaves dozens dead in Hilla
At least 50 cars are set ablaze with passengers inside after bomber detonates minibus packed with explosives at checkpoint
 

Ukrainians, didn't you learn anything...?

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 08:13:04 AM EST
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What does this mean? Do you think Ukrainians should fight foreign (in this case, Russian) occupation by resorting to suicide bombing? Or do you think they should fight Western influence that way? Or do you think foreign (in this case, Russian) occupation will kick off an uncontrolled terrorism wave in Ukraine? Or do you think Western influence will bring it about?

You're too loose and one-sided in your associations.

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by DoDo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 02:28:15 PM EST
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No it simply means that Ukrainians shouldn't start this shit in a first place because if anybody in the world knows , they should know that Russia will not going to simply shrug it's arms and accept NATO on it's door.
Of course that they found themselves between a rock and a hard place.I feel for them.
After what happened lately there is no practically way for Ukraine to stay in one piece with or without armed conflict of any size and form.It is hard to understand and accept , one can imagine. As for "occupation" it depends where you live in Ukraine. Some see NATO bases in Ukraine as occupation the other part see Russian solders as occupation.It's hard to push one or the other view to those opposite. Not to mention that NEVER was a REFERENDUM that would ask ALL Ukrainians if they want to be in NATO.NEVER.
The example that I quoted is to show that even where USA/ NATO managed to "win" that exact state is a hell on Earth. That is what they should learn.  

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:32:44 PM EST
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Times of Israel
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has reportedly asked his cabinet secretary to investigate a highly complicated Dutch-Belgian border arrangement, under which citizens of one country live in enclaves within the other, as a possible precedent to enable Jewish settlers in the West Bank to remain under Israeli rule inside a future Palestinian state.

The prime minister has tasked Cabinet Secretary Avichai Mandelblit with researching the arrangements that prevail in the Belgian "Baarle-Hertog" and Dutch "Baarle-Nassau" areas -- complex border arrangements that originated in a mixture of medieval treaties, land swaps, land sales and other agreements -- to see whether they constitute a viable legal precedent for similar arrangements under which Jewish settlers could stay put within a Palestinian state, Israel's Channel 2 news reported on Sunday night.

Why do I think that it is more likely to end up like Cooch Behar?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 03:44:32 PM EST
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Whatever they call it, for the Palestinians affected it ill simply be yet another Kobayashi Maru

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 04:31:03 PM EST
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LIVING OFF THE PLANET
Environment, Energy, Agriculture, Food


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:44:30 PM EST
Russian pressure could stall life-saving shipping pollution cut | EurActiv

A bid to limit dangerous Nitrogen Oxide (Nox) emissions from new ships is in danger of being delayed until 2021, because of pressure from Russia that may be felt in a meeting of EU diplomats today (7 March).

Pollution from international shipping is estimated to be responsible for more than 50,000 premature deaths in Europe alone and, by 2020, maritime Nox emissions are expected to equal or overtake those from land-based sources.

Because they take place close to shore, such emissions can have a disproportionately damaging effect on human health.

But last year, Russia called for a five-year delay to a deal cut at the International Maritime Organization (IMO) in 2008 which would have strictly limited the shipping pollution from 2016. Russia has given no indication that it would support any future curb on NOx emissions in 2021.



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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:44:40 PM EST
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Floods and gales are taste of things to come, says UN climate science chief | Environment | theguardian.com

"Each of the last three decades has been warmer than the last. Extreme events are on the increase. Even if what we have just had [this winter] was not caused by anthropogenic climate change, events of this nature are increasing both in intensity and frequency," said Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

"Two types of extreme events are going to occur more frequently - extreme precipitation and heatwaves. It is important for societies to deal with climate change if we want to avoid the impacts."

Pachauri was speaking ahead of the publication next month of a major global assessment of the impact of climate change on the world's food supplies, human health, cities and rural areas. Leaked copies seen by the Guardian warn of crop yields falling 2% a decade even as the demand from rapidly growing population increases by 14% per decade. It also warns of extreme heat stress in cities, increased precipitation and widespread flooding.



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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:44:53 PM EST
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Not even climate change will kill off capitalism | Razmig Keucheyan | Comment is free | The Guardian

Arguably the single most important mistake the revolutionary movements of the 60s and 70s made was to overlook the resilience of capitalism. The idea - catastrophism, as it is often called - that the system was going to crumble under the pressure of its own contradictions, that the bourgeoisie produces its own "gravediggers" (as Marx and Engels put it in the Communist Manifesto) has been disproved. When the rate of profit started showing signs of decline in the first half of the 70s, the redistributive policies implemented after the second world war were terminated and the neoliberal revolution was launched.

This resilience of capitalism has little to do with the dominant classes being particularly clever or far-sighted. In fact, they can keep on making mistakes - yet capitalism still thrives. Why?

...the left would be better off learning from its past mistakes. Capitalism might well be capable not only of adapting to climate change but of profiting from it. One hears that the capitalist system is confronted with a double crisis: an economic one that started in 2008, and an ecological one, rendering the situation doubly perilous. But one crisis can sometimes serve to solve another.

Capitalism is responding to the challenge of the ecological crisis with two of its favourite weapons: financialisation and militarisation. In times of crisis, for instance, markets will require simultaneously that wages be cut and that people keep consuming. Opening the flow of credit allows the reconciliation of these two contradictory injunctions - at least until the next financial crisis.



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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:45:07 PM EST
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 LIVING ON THE PLANET 
 Society, Culture, History, Information 


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:45:19 PM EST
Health cuts see new-born deaths jump 43% in Greece | EurActiv

EU-mandated spending cuts in the Greek healthcare system has brought the country decades back into time, with the new-born death rate jumping by 43% since the beginning of the crisis, according to Jorgo Chatzimarkakis, a liberal MEP from the German FDP party.

The austerity policies, ordered by Greece's Troika of international creditors, have worsened the socio-economic situation in Greece to a level not seen since the Second World War, Chatzimarkakis said.

The new-born death rate rose by 43% since austerity measures were implemented, he underlined.

Speaking at the European Parliament in Brussels on Wednesday (5 March) Chatzimarkakis, who is of Greek descent, said that what the EU allows the Troika to do in Greece goes against fundamental human rights.



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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:45:29 PM EST
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It is all coming to our door too. They are cutting public health costs on state as well as federal level here in Australia to the point where it is going to be dangerous. But they do not seem to care, as they have private insurance and also they keep telling us that we :live to long after pension" and that " time of entitlement is gone". Look how our richest lady ( pig) is ranting that we should work harder and stop expecting benefits:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-07/rinehart-says-australian-politicians-should-emulate-thatcher/5 306618

Billionaire mining magnate Gina Rinehart has attacked Australia's "entitlement mentality" and called on the nation's leaders to emulate former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher.

Some people have no shame.All she ever done in her life is that she inherited this wealth from her dad and was lucky enough to get it during mining boom...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 11:15:49 PM EST
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She's a genuinely nasty human being, makes the Waltons and Kochs look neighbourly

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 03:10:47 AM EST
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The rich are so opressed, that I see them rising up soon with L'Internationale.
by das monde on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 05:37:35 AM EST
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This poor woman is obviously a social outcast who spends her time on the couch watching reality TV and munching crap food till she gets obese. Someone send a social worker round to sort her out.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:57:07 AM EST
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Islamophobic Hate Groups Become More Prominent in Germany - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Across Germany, right-wing organizations are using anti-Islam rhetoric to further their ideas -- and finding a receptive audience. Now legal experts are debating whether it's time for a new kind of hate-crime legislation.


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:45:39 PM EST
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Strange Signal From Galactic Center Is Looking More and More Like Dark Matter - Wired Science

The more that scientists stare at it, the more a strange signal from the center of the Milky Way galaxy appears to be the result of dark matter annihilation. If confirmed, it would be the first direct evidence for dark matter ever seen.

Dark matter is a mysterious, invisible substance making up roughly 85 percent of all matter in the universe. It floats throughout our galaxy, but is more concentrated at its center. There, a dark matter particle can meet another dark matter particle flying through space. If they crash into one another, they will annihilate each other (dark matter is its own antiparticle) and give off gamma rays.

To search for a dark matter signal, astronomers use NASA's Fermi Gamma-Ray Telescope to map the gamma radiation throughout the galaxy. Then, they try to account for all known sources of light within this map. They plot the location of gas and dust that could be emitting radiation and subtract that signal from their gamma-ray map. Then they determine where all the stars are and subtract out that light, and so on for every object that might be emitting radiation. Once all those sources are gone, there remains a tiny excess of gamma radiation in the data that no known process can account for.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 09:00:24 PM EST
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Links to an interesting Salon.com interview on how political economy has been superseded by identity politics in the American Left.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 08:47:43 AM EST
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Well, whilst I agree that there is no significant organised left wing in the US, his "proof" is rather a sign of who he interacts with than of what the US truly are. I am not American yet I DO know Americans to the left of Bruce Bartlett...

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 09:28:16 AM EST
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Engineers Allege Hiring Collusion in Silicon Valley - NYTimes.com

Just how far Silicon Valley will go to remove such risks is at the heart of a class-action lawsuit that accuses industry executives of agreeing between 2005 and 2009 not to poach one another's employees. Headed to trial in San Jose this spring, the case involves 64,000 programmers and seeks billions of dollars in damages. Its mastermind, court papers say, was the executive who was the most successful, most innovative and most concerned about competition of all -- Steve Jobs.<aside style="display: none;" data-marginalia-type="sprinkled" data-skip-to-para-id="story-continues-5">

The suit shows how more than two years after his death, Mr. Jobs still casts a long shadow. It also offers a portrait of Silicon Valley engineers that differs sharply from their current caricature as well-paid villains who are driving up the price of real estate in San Francisco and making the city unbearable for others.


Alan Hyde, a Rutgers professor who wrote "Working in Silicon Valley: Economic and Legal Analysis of a High-Velocity Labor Market," said the no-poaching accusations go contrary to what has made the valley so successful: job-hopping.

"There is a fair amount of research that tech companies, particularly in California, have distinctive personnel practices," he said. "They hire for short tenures and keep ties with former employees so there can be an exchange of information across company lines. The companies in this suit might have been killing the golden goose."

by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Mar 9th, 2014 at 04:10:13 PM EST
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ON THIS DATE


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:45:53 PM EST
8 March 1914 – birth of Yakov Borisovich Zel'dovich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (d. 1987) Soviet nuclear scientist, co-discoverer of the Sunyaev-Zel'dovich effect (which allows the detection of dark matter, dark energy and cosmological constants by observing the cosmic microwave background radiation)


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:46:04 PM EST
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9 March 1934 – birth of Yuri Gagarin, Soviet cosmonaut, the first man in space (d. 1968)


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:46:14 PM EST
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 PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 


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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:46:46 PM EST
Nicolas Sarkozy's phones bugged over Gaddafi allegations, claims newspaper | World news | The Guardian

Judges last April ordered the former French president Nicolas Sarkozy's phones to be bugged as part of an investigation into allegations his 2007 election campaign was bankrolled by Libya's then leader, Muammar Gaddafi, it was claimed on Friday.

The phone tapping, believed to be the first of its kind against a French leader, was described by Sarkozy's lawyer as a "monstrous" violation of his legal rights. But transcripts of the taped conversations have reportedly embroiled him in further damaging corruption allegations.

...Somehow Sarkozy got wind of the move and became "laconic" in his phone manner, Le Monde claimed. He then obtained a second mobile which he used to contact his lawyer Thierry Herzog, who had also reportedly bought a second mobile using a "borrowed identity".

It is not known what the phone taps revealed about Gaddafi, but transcripts of bugged conversations between president and lawyer, alerted investigators to how surprisingly "well informed" they were about a separate legal case, says Le Monde.

...Le Monde claims investigators established that he and his lawyer were being fed confidential information from the case files by a senior prosecutor, described as a "veteran supporter" of the political right.

So that's why he suddenly had to meet Merkel for a nice photo-op.

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by DoDo on Fri Mar 7th, 2014 at 01:47:16 PM EST
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Unbelievable the victimisation whining we are hearing in France. "Never before has an ex-head-of-state been treated in this way!". Quite possibly never before has a French head of state been this corrupt.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:59:31 AM EST
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