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by Frank Schnittger Fri Jul 25th, 2014 at 07:22:01 AM EST

I haven't written about Gaza because some things are just too evil for human comprehension.  Who uses flechette and white phosphorous shells on civilian populations? Flechette shells available here at Ammo To Go at a reduced price of $21.95...

When listening to Netanyahu It is difficult to comprehend the enormity of the irony that the people on whom the Holocaust was perpetrated are now engaging in similar genocide themselves, and doing so with a self-righteous pomposity that beggars belief.

When you look at the map below, who can doubt the central thesis of my diary Israel/Palestine: One state or two? written almost 7 years ago (that a separate Palestinian State is no longer viable)?

But seven years on we are no closer to a political settlement in the region, and have, if anything, moved further away. Maybe those writers and religious seers  who predicted Armageddon have a point, at least as far as the chosen land and people are concerned. "Those whom the God's seek to destroy, they first make mad" (Sophocles, Antigone).

by Oui on Fri Jul 25th, 2014 at 07:47:17 AM EST
My apologies for not reading your prodigious output on this and other conflicts more assiduously. As you may glean from the brevity of this diary, I find the whole conflict utterly depressing and prefer to focus on more limited issues where there is at least some prospect of developing a proposal or solution. Even Apartheid I found solvable and indeed predicted an outcome not  too dissimilar to what eventually happened in my Master's Thesis (2988/9). But whilst my old diary Israel/Palestine: One state or two? proposed a solution, I find even my perennial optimism challenged by the Israel Palestinian conflict. I really can see this one ending in a nuclear exchange which will send all the religious millenarians going into Ecstasy trying to bring Armageddon about...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Jul 25th, 2014 at 08:21:04 AM EST
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I have been an optimist pur sang all my life, yesterday I wrote family in Chicago I dread the outbreak of a major war over the greater middle east and the Ukraine. The war rhetoric from London and Washington is becoming treacherous.

The U.S. doesn't have conscription and just a small part of the population know what a destructive effect it has on people. Veterans know, especially those coming home with a disability.

We in Europe are still aware, war should not be a matter of choice, that's what the EEC was build on. The rapid expansion eastward, a political/economic choice in Brussels, has already cost us dearly.

See my comment today @Tikun Olam ...

In war it is the civilian population, mostly consisting of the women and children, that suffer the most. It was not by chance that 100 years ago, the peace movement consisted of women in their leadership to end war and obtain voting rights: the suffrage movement. See Carnegie's endowment for the Peace Palace in The Hague.

The peace institutes studying war to end war have been taken over by neocons with an agenda. In The Netherlands, a renowned peace institute Clingendael has suffered from such a change.

I don't understand Obama and his amazon warriors in the White House advocating R2P policy and ending up with Libya, Syria, Gaza and Ukraine. A very disturbing turn of events in the (western) world.

by Oui on Fri Jul 25th, 2014 at 08:54:16 AM EST
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I don't know, I think that, whilst the current politicians are in power things will not change, Hillary Clinton has gone on record denying there is anything wrong with Israel's behavior.

But in terms of public opinion, things are changing which will lead to a political change. Europe is turning against Israel and even in the US the tide is turning. Even journalists are being challenged on their pro-Likud propaganda.

If the US ever decides to add strings to that $3 billion or threaten to turn the money and military aid tap off, Likud and their right wing partners are gonna get whiplash.

But even more than that, there are protests in Israel itself. I have long contended that Israel needs external enemies to prevent the tensions within Israeli society boiling over. There are very real problems which are only just about controlled by the national unity an external threat provides. And the wheels are coming off that cart.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 27th, 2014 at 04:18:29 PM EST
Attack by IDF veteran on critics of Israel policy ...

Director of Israeli Aerospace Institute Conducts Campaign Disabling My Facebook Account

An Israeli Facebook user named Tal Inbar began a campaign to get my Facebook account removed.  Here is what he published in Hebrew.


Tikun Olam is one of the few blogs I follow and sometimes contribute my thoughts. Throughout the years, Tikun Olam is harassed on a daily basis by the (paid) group of hasbarists out of the school of Gerald Steinberg. Netanyahu by his military actions may be losing the PR war. From the Office of the Minister President most directives are send, and funding arranged, to fight the PR war across the western world.

IDF's New Media - War Propaganda Through Social Media
Zuckerberg's Facebook Conduit to Impose Israeli Censorship

Read about the I/P conlict: Mondoweiss: Gaza and Guernica  - Max Blumenthal: The Great Islamophobic Crusade - Juan Cole: Why a 'Cease Fire' Is Not Enough In Gaza - Tikun Olam: Gaza War Bringing Out the Worst in Israeli Misogyny, Racism.

My recent diary - We Share Their Moral Values ... Israel.

by Oui on Mon Jul 28th, 2014 at 08:25:21 AM EST
Real axis of evil in westerm world since WWII: U.S. - Britain - France - Australia and Israel with Canada teetering on the edge of support. Trying to maintain the whte bastion, at least with racist undertones.

No surprise really as the world is run by the intelligence community, 5 eyes anyone?

by Oui on Mon Jul 28th, 2014 at 10:20:08 PM EST
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 at 01:31:16 AM EST
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"Think of the shame for US ambassador Keith Harper, who represents the U.S. at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva. This week he cast the sole opposing vote against a UN inquiry into human rights abuses in Gaza."
h/t Eureka Springs @MoA

Harper is a member of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. His people got marched there from the east coast in the Trail of Tears. Now this proud native American has prostituted his conscience to Israel, refusing aid to another oppressed people. It is one sad spectacle.

TAHLEQUAH, Okla. - "We are proud that Keith Harper was confirmed by the U.S. Senate. As the first tribal citizen to serve as an ambassador, Keith has broken the barrier for all those who will follow him. As President Obama's choice to serve in this critical role on the UN's Human Rights Council, I know Keith will do so with integrity and compassion for Indigenous people worldwide. His confirmation is especially meaningful for Indian Country, because the United Nation's World Conference on Indigenous Peoples will be later this year and he will have an important role in protecting the rights of Native people. He will be a staunch advocate and champion for all Indigenous people. Additionally, I applaud the president for making it a priority to have tribal citizens serve in positions that affect our people."

Cherokee Nation News Release
For Media Inquiries:

by Oui on Mon Jul 28th, 2014 at 10:27:50 PM EST
Ambassadors are not free to exercise their conscience as they will, they represent the government of their country and do what they're told

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 at 01:36:43 AM EST
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Thanks for yr contribution. I didn't know that.  ( ¡ ) The fascists are marching on ... and no one will stop them.
by Oui on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 at 02:06:05 AM EST
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Whatever happened t the British ambassador who complained of torture in his host country?  Recalled, if I recall, but then what?  After all no one disputed the veracity of what he said.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 at 04:29:29 AM EST
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That would be Craig Murray, British ambassador to Uzbekistan until 2004.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 at 05:12:52 AM EST
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Craig Murray - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In July 2003 some of the embassy staff were sacked while Murray was away on holiday. They were reinstated after he expressed his outrage to the FCO. Later during the same holiday he was recalled to London for disciplinary reasons. On 21 August 2003 he was confronted with 18 charges. These included "hiring dolly birds [pretty young women] for above the usual rate" for the visa department, though he claims that the department had an all-male staff, and granting UK visas in exchange for sex. The FCO gave him a week to resign and told him that discussing the charges would be a violation of the Official Secrets Act 1989.[10]

He collapsed during a medical check in Tashkent on 2 September 2003 and was airlifted to St Thomas Hospital in London. After an FCO internal inquiry conducted by Tony Crombie, Head of the FCO's Overseas Territories Department, all but two of the charges (being drunk at work and misusing the embassy's Range Rover) were dropped. The charges were leaked to the press in October 2003.[17]

Immediately upon his return to work in November 2003, he suffered a near-fatal pulmonary embolism and was again flown back to London for medical treatment. The FCO exonerated him of all 18 charges in January 2004 after a four-month investigation but reprimanded him for speaking about them.[citation needed] Removal from post[edit]

Murray was removed from his post in October 2004, shortly after a leaked report in the Financial Times quoted him as claiming that MI6 used intelligence provided by Uzbek authorities through torture.[

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 at 10:36:42 AM EST
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Facebook sharing from Eran Efrati

In recent weeks I was on the border of Gaza and getting reports from soldiers in the Gaza Strip who leak information out to me. I am in the process of publication of two big stories in major U.S. newspapers, but there are some things I can share with you right now: Soldiers in two different units inside Gaza leaked information about the murdering of Palestinians by sniper fire in Shuja'iyya neighborhood as punishment for the death of soldiers in their units.

[Read on ...]

New York Times: Palestinian Family Finds Missing Son in YouTube Video of His Shooting

A video report showing the apparently fatal shooting of an unarmed Palestinian civilian, recorded on Sunday in Gaza City by a local activist. International Solidarity Movement Palestine, via YouTube.

Joe Catron, a human rights activist who witnessed the shooting [July 20, 2014] and documented the incident in photographs posted on Flickr, said in a telephone interview from Gaza that, although it seemed certain the young man would die without emergency medical treatment, the rest of the small party with which he was traveling had no choice but to retreat when shelling resumed in the area after the filming had stopped.

An illustration how well state propaganda works. Exactly why U.S. soldiers died in Vietnam, I was a kid but an what older Polish immigrant neighbour sent his only son to Vietnam to fight the commies over there. He gave his life for his father's revenge. In following article, David Siegel from the Consulate General of Israel in Los Angeles stated: "... to really defend the civilized world against the threat of Islamic terrorism."

Americans from Texas, California killed in Gaza

Carmeli, 21, a sergeant, was from South Padre Island, Texas, said Maya Kadosh, deputy consul general of Israel to the Southwest. He had moved to Israel four years ago and joined the Israeli army after finishing high school there. He was also part of the Golani Brigade, said Rabbi Asher Hecht of Chabad of the Rio Grande Valley.

"He had great energy, yet had a kind and gentle soul," Hecht said. "We lost a gem."

Stuart Steinberg, whose family lives in the San Fernando Valley in California, said his son was a sharpshooter for the Golani Brigade. He was living in Beersheba, Israel, and had attended Pierce College and El Camino Real High School in California.

He visited Israel for the first time on a Birthright Israel trip with his younger brother and sister in June 2012, his father said. When he returned, he told his family that he was planning to return and join the Israel Defense Forces.

Cross-posted from my diary - War Crimes by Moral Desolate IDF Soldiers of Golani Brigade.

by Oui on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 at 04:07:55 AM EST

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