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28-31 July 2015

by In Wales Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:47:54 AM EST

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:48:23 AM EST
Swiss army helicopters have crossed the Franco-Swiss border in an unexpected incursion -- to help thirsty Swiss cows.

The aerial operation to scoop up water caught authorities responsible for Rousses Lake in the Jura mountains by surprise last Thursday. The helicopters also startled swimmers and fishermen enjoying the beaches of the lake in eastern France.

Christophe Mathez, deputy mayor of the Les Rousses commune, said officials had "no idea this operation would occur" -- and that the Swiss neither requested authorization or nor warned before descending.

Swiss media reported that the country's military did ask for permission -- but from the French air force, not local authorities or the police.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 06:14:00 AM EST
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Brussels rejects Yanis Varoufakis' claims that troika controlled Greek tax system | Business | The Guardian

The European commission has denounced as "false and unfounded" claims by Greece's former finance minister Yanis Varoufakis that international creditors had exclusive control over the country's tax system.

Brussels slammed the suggestion that external supervision of the Greek tax revenue agency forced Varoufakis to consider hacking the ministry's computers as part of a secret plan to devise a parallel payment system for the nation.

"On what Mr Varoufakis has been saying, the allegations that the troika was controlling the secretariat general of public revenues are false and unfounded," said Mina Andreeva, a spokeswoman for the European commission, referring to the triumvirate of lenders propping up the near bankrupt Greek economy. "The secretariat general of public revenue is a quasi-independent entity, responsible for tax administration, that is formally part of the Ministry of Finance."

by Bernard on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 04:07:07 PM EST
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".... are false and unfounded,""

And Bill Cosby NEVER drugged and raped all of those women!

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 05:53:01 PM EST
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nothing is true until it has been officially denied

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 04:56:44 PM EST
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Jean-Marie Le Pen wins third legal victory against daughter Marine | World news | The Guardian

Jean-Marie Le Pen, the French far-right veteran and co-founder of the Front National, has won a third legal victory in the increasingly bitter feud with his daughter and party leader, Marine Le Pen.

The Versailles appeals court upheld an earlier legal decision in favour of the 87-year-old that annulled his daughter's attempt to suspend him from the party and declared unlawful her postal ballot of party members, which sought to remove his title as honorary party president.

An all-out war broke out between the Le Pens in April following inflammatory comments Le Pen Senior made belittling the Holocaust and lauding France's Nazi-collaborationist Vichy regime. Marine Le Pen suspended her father from the party he co-founded in 1972 and called a ballot to scrap his position as honorary president. In a vicious public spat, he disowned her and they stopped speaking. Since then, they have been battling it out in the law courts.

by Bernard on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 04:08:12 PM EST
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Jeremy Corbyn's Labour leadership bid has a momentum even he didn't expect | Politics | The Guardian

One of the young Corbyn supporters, Heather Shaw, 23, who met the candidate in London on Tuesday, echoed this, listing some of the issues that mattered to her. "A large part of his support is from young people. People say he is an old left-winger or an old Marxist but to my generation his ideas seem quite new," she said. "His ideas on renationalisation of the railways and the energy companies. Free university tuition that people of my generation have not had. The idea of spending more money on infrastructure."

Shaw, originally from Wigan, works for an online company in London. She recalled how despondent she and her friends had been after the election, gathered in the Cock pub near Oxford Circus. "We were talking about how there was no hope. Nothing good is going to happen. Labour will not get in for the next 10 years. It is only because of Jeremy Corbyn that there is excitement in British politics."

If it had only been Cooper, Burnham and Kendall in the contest, she said she would not have become involved. "I would just be watching from the sidelines," Shaw said.

(Guardian reporting is apparently, erm, changing horses...)

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 01:00:03 AM EST
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As if fake people from an insurance brochure visual ever gripped anybody's imagination.

Though the Guardian's choice of picture and caption is insinuating that. It's all part of the "image" analysis of politics we have come (over decades now) to expect in place of genuine political analysis.

The real problem for people like Cooper and Burnham is that they've chosen sides in a class war, and the side they've chosen doesn't need them.

They are the epitome of irrelevance.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 01:18:29 AM EST
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changing horses to Corbyn?

I had the impression Guardian was always LD supporting.

by IM on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 10:38:32 AM EST
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Historically, the Guardian was strongly linked to the old Liberal Party. It morphed into a centre-left paper that had/has its Blairish moments. I can't say I've noticed much support for the Lib Dems in coalition and decomposition, though some LD politicians may be treated with sympathy.

Recently, the front page on the website at least, has given a lot of play to those who, one after another and Blair among them, have warned that Corbyn = the end of civilisation as we know it. It looks to me like they see now that they can't be so grossly dismissive of him. Because he's not going away, and he obviously has real support.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:23:47 AM EST
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the Guardian has always had a diverse set of views. In this case, John Harris (the writer of this piece) has avoided declaring an interest but quickly seemed to lose patience with the other 3 candidates' austerity-lite programmes, the basis of which has been completely discredited.

Owen Jones, another guardian writer, has been an out and proud supporter of Corbyn almost from the start.

There are other writers who disagree and they get equal space, but Corbyn is the front-runner and is the one making the weather. The Guardian must report that.

I don't think anybody seriously expects Corbyn to solve all, or indeed, any of the problems of policy and messaging, or even win the next election. But, at least he opens up the possibility of Labour developing a set of solutions for 21st century problems because he challenges the neo-conservative orthodoxy.

And, right now, that's not just the main thing, it's the only thing

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 05:22:17 PM EST
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"Viewpoints" or "commentary" in the media are one thing. Editorial choices are another. Over the last weeks, the front page of the Guardian's site (which surely attracts many more eyeballs than the hard-copy version) has prominently featured every single attack on Corbyn from the Blairite Labour elite. That seems to be calming down, and more space is given to more measured comments. Why? Imo, because Corbyn is still there and can't be kicked into the nettles. Perhaps his opponents will have to come up with some real discussion of real issues. Eek!

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Jul 31st, 2015 at 01:02:15 AM EST
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I wonder if Graun management realised they were going to lose a lot of readers - and business - by being too overtly anti-Corbyn, so word came from above to tone it down.

I still have no illusions they're pro-Corbyn - unlike the Indie, which has published a couple of series of very positive pieces.

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if some of the "Corbyn is unelectable" trolls don't work in-house at the Graun.

Whatever - it's obvious there's been a genuine explosion of interest in Old Labour and in ending the Blair years, with all of their associations.

The problem - clearly - is that the parliamentary party is full of Blairites, while the everyday memberships is full of Blair haters. Something is going to have to give.

The rest of the problem - equally clearly - is that the Graun is not really a pro-left newspapers, much as its readers would like it to be. It's a spoiler paper that tries to pull the left towards the right, with a rather thin coating of social justice coverage - which is not the same thing at all.

Corbyn has done an excellent job of revealing its bias without saying or doing much. If he continues in a similar vein, it's going to be an interesting few years.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 31st, 2015 at 03:31:39 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:48:34 AM EST
Finland is the poster child for why the euro doesn't work
Sometimes bad things happen to good economies.

Take Finland. Its schools are among the best in the world, its government is among the least corrupt, and, for rich countries, its public debt is among the lowest. But despite the fact that the fundamentals of its economy are strong, its economy is not, in fact, strong. Finland is actually stuck in its longest recession in living memory. Why? Well, the short story is the euro.

The slightly longer version is Finland has had some bad luck that the euro has turned into a bad recession, or at least a worse one that it had to be. It started when Apple made Nokia go from being synonymous with smartphones to being synonymous with old smartphones. As Finland found out, it isn't easy to replace a company that, at its peak, made up 4 percent of your economy. Obsolescence came for the timber companies next [...] Put it all together, and Finland was always going to have a tough time. But it's been tougher than it needed to be, since Finland hasn't been able to do what a country would normally do in this situation: devalue its currency. That's because Finland doesn't have a currency to devalue. It has the euro.

by das monde on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 05:22:53 AM EST
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I wonder why Europe gets it's pellet wood from S.E. USA, did Finland run out or what?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 07:41:44 AM EST
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Firms should stop pretending that high-profile mergers will benefit consumers - LA Times

The script has become a familiar one for consumers.

First a company announces that it's acquiring a rival firm. Both businesses declare this will be great for customers.

Federal regulators, in most cases, then say that they've looked closely at the deal and don't see any problem.

The buyout goes through and -- what do you know? -- prices eventually go up and the quality of the product or service shows no improvement.

It makes you wonder: Has there ever been a high-profile merger that's resulted in lower prices or higher quality for consumers?

In the wake of several big deals in recent days, I put that question to dozens of business professors, economists and lawyers specializing in mergers and antitrust issues. These are people who study and track this sort of thing for a living.

Not one was able to cite a single big-ticket merger that irrefutably benefited consumers in a long-term, demonstrable way.

Not one.

by Bernard on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 04:03:44 PM EST
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Revelation #2. All politicians lie. Except maybe Bernie ... but he won't make it to the WH.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 05:56:10 PM EST
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Yes, trade deals really do overturn democracy - The Ecologist
Forget tariffs, forget Obama's promises. The whole point of modern 'trade agreements' is to whack pesky labor, environment and health laws, writes David Morris, and so empower capital and corporate power against regulators, governments and democracy itself. Unconvinced? Just imagine what these deals would look like if they were there to empower people.

On 18th May the World Trade Organization (WTO) issued a final ruling in favor of Canada and Mexico in a case involving a US law requiring country-of-origin labels on packages of beef, pork, chicken and other kinds of meat.

The three-judge WTO panel estimated economic damages at more than $3 billion. These will be meted out by Canada and Mexico as retaliatory tariffs on a potentially wide array of US industries, from "California wines to Minnesota mattresses", as Gerry Ritz, Canada's Minister of Agriculture predicted.

"The only way for the United States to avoid billions in immediate retaliation is to repeal COOL", Ritz announced. Congress hastened to comply. The day the WTO issued its ruling Rep. Michael Conway (R-TX) introduced legislation to overturn the COOL law. On 10th June the House overwhelmingly passed the bill, 300-131.

The COOL decision and its almost immediate legislative impact demonstrated in real time the inaccuracy of President Obama's comments. Encompassing 12 Pacific Rim countries with 40% of the world's economy the Trans-Pacific Partnership would be the largest trade agreement since the WTO was formed in 1995.

But to call it a 'trade agreement' is both accurate and misleading for it conjures up images of agreements that largely target tariffs. That is no longer the case. Of TPP's 29 draft chapters, only five deal with traditional trade issues.

Modern trade agreements have less to do with trade than with national sovereignty. The primary focus of modern trade agreements is the elimination of existing laws that govern commerce.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 03:29:40 AM EST
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Russians Buy Gold Again In June - Another 25 Tonnes
Russia continues to add to its gold reserves and added another 800,000 ounces in June or another 25 metric tonnes, and analysts believe this buying will continue in the coming months.

Its total gold reserves now amount to 41 million ounces or around 1,275 metric tonnes, with a current value of just $48 billion. Russia's total FX reserves are $362 billion and their gold allocation is now 13% of their total reserves.

Russia is boosting its gold reserves as prices plunge

Russia has been building its gold reserves as part of a continuing effort to reallocate its reserve portfolio.

But by growing its gold stockpile, Russia may be exposing itself to the risk of holding an asset whose value has been steadily heading south.

[...] gold prices fell for a 10th session Wednesday with August gold falling $12, or 1.1%, to settle at $1,091.50 an ounce on Comex. The precious metal is off nearly 6.7%% in July and 7.7% for the year [...]

 The one-two punch of plunging oil prices and international sanctions following Russia's invasion of Ukraine have hit the country, run by President Vladimir Putin, hard. Russia's gross domestic product shrank by 4.2% in April year-over-year, following a 2.7% contraction in March.

The recent Iran deal, which paves the way for Tehran to start exporting more oil, is expected to further weigh on Russia's economy

by das monde on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 09:25:30 AM EST
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Sack Puerto Rico's teachers? A new low for hedge funds
They have fought long-running legal battles with Argentina, Peru and Zambia, and now want Puerto Rico to sack teachers and close down schools to pay back debt. It's fair to say that vulture funds are the scourge of impoverished countries, seemingly hell-bent on exploiting economic weakness across the globe [...]

The latest battle has pitted the small Caribbean nation against a group of 38 distressed-debt specialists which include the New York-based Fir Tree Partners, Davidson Kempner Capital Management and Aurelius Capital, collectively known as the Ad Hoc Group of Puerto Rico and holding an estimated $5.2bn worth of the country's bonds. This group has hired three former International Monetary Fund economists - Jose Fajgenbaum, Jorge Guzman and Claudio Loser - to write a report released this week entitled "For Puerto Rico, there is a better way". In this, the economists claim the country should raise taxes, cut health benefits and sack teachers to shrink the size of the state, rather than default and leave bondholders (that is, the Ad Hoc Group) out of pocket.

How much are the troika, EU governments different from vulture funds? They do "compensate" (aka bail-out) private bondholders 100% (most of the time), but their stubbornness, demands are very like.

by das monde on Fri Jul 31st, 2015 at 02:34:49 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:48:47 AM EST
Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard set to be released from prison in November | World news | The Guardian

Convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard will be released from prison in November, his attorneys said on Tuesday.

"We are grateful and delighted that our client will be released soon," said a statement from Pollard's lawyers, Eliot Lauer and Jacques Semmelman.

The former US naval intelligence analyst was sentenced to life in prison in 1987 after pleading guilty to handing thousands of classified documents to Israel. In particular, Pollard handed over information about Soviet arms shipments to Arab countries and details of Iraqi and Syrian chemical weapons programs.

by Bernard on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 04:08:56 PM EST
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Turkey urged at Nato meeting not to abandon Kurdish peace process | World news | The Guardian

The Turkish government has been pressed at a special Nato meeting to adopt a proportionate response towards Kurdish militants and not abandon the increasingly fragile peace process.

The Nato conference, held on Tuesday at the request of Turkey, came only hours after Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the Turkish president, said he could not continue a peace process with Kurdish militants and urged parliament to strip politicians with links to "terrorist groups" of their immunity from prosecution.

"It is not possible for us to continue the peace process with those who threaten our national unity and brotherhood," Erdogan told a press conference in Ankara before his departure on an official visit to China.

Last week, following a suicide bombing in the small border town of Suruç, the Turkish government took on a more active role in the US-led coalition fighting Islamic State and agreed to open its airbases to allied fighter jets as well as flying its own missions against Isis militants. In doing so, however, it also turned its guns on the outlawed Kurdistan Workers party (PKK), a militant Kurdish group that has long - and successfully - been fighting Isis in Iraq and Syria.

by Bernard on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 04:09:34 PM EST
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MH370: Boeing 777 wing that could match missing plane found on the French island of Reunion - Africa - World - The Independent

Aeroplane wreckage has washed up on the Indian Ocean island of Reunion, which air safety investigators have a "high degree of confidence" is a piece of the missing Malaysian Airlines MH370 plane.

Writing on a blog, French aviation security expert and former pilot Xavier Tytelman, said the images showed an "incredible" similarity between the appearance of the aircraft which went missing in March last year and the wing of a Boeing 777.

MH370 search: Reunion debris to be tested in France - BBC News

Malaysia has sent a team of investigators and other officials to Toulouse and another team of experts to Reunion - a French overseas department.

The object is expected to be flown to France on Friday, a judicial source told AFP news agency.

The BBC's Chris Bockman in Toulouse says French aviation authorities have a huge hangar facility in the city to store and study wreckage, as they did with the Air France airliner that crashed on its way from Brazil to Paris in 2009.

Aviation experts who have studied photos of the debris, found on Wednesday, say it resembles a flaperon - a moving part of the wing surface - from a Boeing 777.

The part was found on a Saint André beach, on the northeastern shore of the island. I have visited the place a couple of years ago (my brother lives there).

The other piece of news from the Reunion island is the "imminent" eruption of its famous volcano, even though it is too far from Saint André, and any major town to "threaten" anything - but don't tell the idiots at the Mirror.

by Bernard on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 04:41:11 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:49:02 AM EST
Offshore Wind Farm Raises Hopes of U.S. Clean Energy Backers - The New York Times

"There are many good reasons why offshore wind has not been yet developed while other renewables have in the U.S.," chiefly its high cost, said Paul Bledsoe, an energy consultant based in Washington and former climate adviser in the Clinton White House. "However, we're still at a point where we have less than 10 percent renewable energy and if we are going to increase that number dramatically to somewhere near some of the major European countries, offshore wind will almost surely be part of that mix."

That will take time. When the first offshore farm was built, in Denmark in 1991, developers were not thinking that it would suddenly become a mainstream form of energy, said Michael Hannibal, chief executive of the offshore division at Siemens Wind Energy, which supplied the turbines for that first plant. It took about a decade of testing and planning -- and putting in place a set of programs and generous subsidies -- for the market to begin taking off in Europe.

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Part of what has driven the higher rate of adoption -- especially in Britain, Denmark and Germany -- is that Europe lacks as many cheap, clean (or cleaner) alternatives that can replace coal, diesel and nuclear plants. Electric rates are generally higher, natural gas is more expensive and open land for wind and solar fields is harder to find than in the United States, making an expansion to the seas more economically viable.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 01:12:26 AM EST
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CO2 overview for COP21 - 100% renewable - Renewables International

Bernard Chabot is back today with a massive (314-page) overview of carbon emissions worldwide. For the first time, he has broken down emissions by energy source and country. Most sources lump fossil fuels together. Now, we can see per country what the difference between oil, gas, and coal is. The analysis suggests more attention needs to be paid to oil.

This article is available as a PDF.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 03:23:50 AM EST
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Nations Most at Risk have Least Familiarity with Term "Climate Change" | Inter Press Service

NEW YORK, Jul 28 2015 (IPS) - Although four in 10 adults have never heard the phrase "climate change," many are aware that something is amiss with local weather patterns, a new survey covering 119 countries has found.

Published in the scientific journal Nature Climate Change, the study based on Gallup poll results found that worldwide, a person's level of education is the single strongest predictor of climate change awareness.

And understanding that the problem is "anthropogenic" - caused by humans, rather than being a naturally occurring phenomenon - increases the personal perception of risk.

This was particularly true in Latin America and Europe, whereas perception of local temperature change was the strongest predictor in many African and Asian countries.

It found that awareness of the problem was very uneven. Two-thirds of people in Egypt, Bangladesh and Nigeria, for instance, had never heard of climate change, while in North America, Europe, and Japan, more than 90 percent of the public is aware of it.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 04:52:06 AM EST
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If not everything can be saved, should everyone really know better?
by das monde on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 09:12:30 AM EST
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Washington, D.C., Sinking Fast, Adding to Threat of Sea-Level Rise
New research confirms that the land under the Chesapeake Bay is sinking rapidly and projects that Washington, D.C., could drop by six or more inches in the next century--adding to the problems of sea-level rise.

This falling land will exacerbate the flooding that the nation's capital faces from rising ocean waters due to a warming climate and melting ice sheets--accelerating the threat to the region's monuments, roads, wildlife refuges, and military installations.

by das monde on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 09:11:32 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:49:20 AM EST
Saudi King's Riviera Beach Ban Sparks Protest
The Saudi King and his 1,000-strong entourage have arrived for a holiday on the French Riviera amid anger over the closure of the public beach outside his villa.

More than 100,000 people signed a petition against the "privatisation" of the shoreline below the monarch's exclusive seafront property in Vallauris, which lies between Cannes and Antibes.

The beach is normally open to the public but has been closed on privacy and security grounds.

Plus swimming protests.
by das monde on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 06:31:19 AM EST
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Better get used to this kind of shit ... more to come.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 07:28:12 AM EST
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'The Olympics are dead': Does anyone want to be a host city anymore? | Sport | The Guardian

The reason Boston's residents didn't want to be Athens is the same reason the residents of Oslo or Krakow or Stockholm don't want to be Athens. Hosting an Olympics is a corporate sinkhole sucking billions of dollars and a city's future into a bottomless abyss of excess.

The internet is clogged with slide shows of empty, broken, useless stadiums built in the euphoria of a coming Olympics or World Cup then abandoned soon after, allowed to fill with weeds, rodents and other signs of human escape. Is there a better sign of Greece's collapse than a pile of useless sports facilities crumbling since the torch went out in the summer of 2004? What use did Athens have for a baseball stadium anyway? It's crumbling among the weeds just like the field hockey venue, the canoeing center and the training pool green with algae.

Paris is still among the 2024 Olympics bidders.

by Bernard on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 04:11:30 PM EST
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"'The Olympics are dead': Does anyone want to be a host city anymore?"

Some place in Texas ... but then again, I live in CA.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 05:58:54 PM EST
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The best thing about this news is that fighting the good fight sometimes works out. BostonStrong! A small group of smart, dedicated individuals managed to air the obvious and change the conversation towards a win.

For the rest of the field there are Paris, Rome, Budapest. Obviously it would be best if the IOC took their scam to, say, Baku, Azerbaijan and some other non-European place in 2028.

Toronto officials, drunk on the recent Pan-American Games, are considering a run.

LA may have good chances but it's awfully late in the game. LA entering and winning could be good from a common sense point of view but that would open up the possibility of a European city winning 2028. As someone who doesn't want that plague to land in Hamburg, Paris 2024 would be very attractive to me because then it would ensure Hamburg not being chosen for 2028 either (Europe twice in a row being practically impossible).

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 07:30:20 PM EST
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Big cities like Tokyo and LA can in all likelihood use any new facilities built.  Lord knows that everything in Tokyo will pretty much always be used to maximum capacity, because with 30 million people and the transit to get them where they want to go, any space can find an audience.
by Zwackus on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 08:50:29 PM EST
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Pretty much what I am thinking. This is an event that should just stop happening anyplace but the very largest cities. Like "Do you have ten million people to use this stuff afterwards? No? Then do not even think about it".
by Thomas on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 03:49:53 AM EST
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But that would eliminate crucial Olympic events like the Men's Freestyle Contract Bidding High Jump, the Big Name Architect's Stadium Slalom, and the More Fireworks than God 100m Opening Sprint.

If you take those out, what's the point?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 08:09:33 AM EST
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Let's keep this crap out of CA  ... we already have enough problems. Put it in a shit hole that won't notice destruction ... like Chicago.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Jul 29th, 2015 at 02:54:22 PM EST
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Dirty Rio Water a Threat at 2016 Olympics
The waters where Olympians will compete in swimming and boating events next summer in South America's first games are rife with human sewage and present a serious health risk for athletes, as well as for visitors to the iconic beaches of Rio de Janeiro.

An Associated Press investigation found dangerously high levels of viruses and bacteria from sewage in venues where athletes will compete in the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic water sports.

Tokyo is scrapping the $2billion project for the main 2020 stadium, and the logo meets plagiarism questions.

by das monde on Thu Jul 30th, 2015 at 05:34:53 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:49:36 AM EST
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 28th, 2015 at 03:49:48 AM EST

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