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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 01:02:38 PM EST
There are rumours that the Berlin Staatskapelle will visit Iran, perhaps along with Angela Merkel, led by the Palestinian conductor Daniel Barenboim. The Israelis, needless to say, are having a fit.
Am gestrigen Mittwoch forderte die israelische Kulturministerin Miri Regev die deutsche Bundeskanzlerin auf, zu verhindern, dass der Dirigent Daniel Barenboim mit der Berliner Staatskapelle in Teheran auftritt. Ein solches Konzert, schreibt Regev auf Facebook, schade den Bemühungen Israels, das Atomabkommen mit Iran zu verhindern, und spiele den Gegnern ihres Landes in die Hände, zu denen die Ministerin auch Barenboim zählt.
No mention of what they will play. Any suggestions?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 04:45:12 PM EST
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They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 06:44:39 PM EST
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Ride of the valkyries?

What kind of nimcompop is Regev? a) Merkel can't do that and b) why should Merkel be interested in helping Israel to fight the atom deal?

Well, let's accentuate he positive: Regev is fighting the cliche of the clever jew.

by IM on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 05:01:56 AM EST
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Well, that's it.
Israeli-Argentinian conductor Daniel Barenboim had his hopes dashed Friday after Iran's Ministry of Culture said he will not be allowed to perform in Tehran, the Iranian news agency Fars reported.
Will Israel now accuse Iran of antisemitism?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 12:37:56 PM EST
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They should.
by IM on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 01:22:26 PM EST
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And then the Iranians will "relent" and "allow" Barenboim his concert after all.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 04:33:55 AM EST
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Also sprach Zarathustra

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 03:39:22 PM EST
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The petition "Publish the statistics showing how many people have died after their benefits were stopped" reached nearly 250,000 signatures.
For years there have been reports of people committing suicide or dying from ill-health soon after their benefits are stopped.
In 2012 the Department of Work and Pensions published statistics which showed 10,600 people who had been receiving benefits died between January and November 2011. These figures caused an outcry, although many disabled campaigners disagreed over what the figures actually showed. Ministers then blocked publication of any updated figures.

Today the figures were released.

Comment on Vox Political: "Known number of deaths while claiming incapacity benefits nears 100,000"

by Number 6 on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 09:24:45 AM EST
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'Vast social cleansing' pushes tens of thousands of families out of London | UK news | The Guardian

Tens of thousands of poor families have left inner London in the past five years, creating "social cleansing on a vast scale" and leaving large parts of the capital as the preserve of the rich, figures suggest.

The extent of the problem is revealed in data that shows the number of children entitled to free school meals, a widely used indicator of deprivation, has dropped by almost a third in some London boroughs since 2010.

The figures portray a mass shift of poorer families from inner London just when the government has introduced a raft of changes to the welfare system.

Although there is no definite link between welfare reforms and the reduction in free school meal claimants, Sadiq Khan, the prospective London mayoral candidate who obtained the figures, said government policies were creating an increasingly segregated city.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Aug 28th, 2015 at 10:30:50 AM EST
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thatcher's policies bear fruit. Poor people tend to be more likely to vote Labour than others so, given that London is gradually becoming a Labour stronghold, it's best to get rid of the inconveniently non-affluent.

Of course, there are already shortages of nurses, teachers and basic infrastructure staff. That will not ease. Now while most people won't mind if the hidden people like rubbish collectors are tramps who sleep on the streets between shifts, they may object when their coffee barista and restaurant waiter smell like they've not bathed in a week.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 05:37:47 AM EST
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All the baristas, barpeople, and wait staff I encountered in inner London last time I was there, were from central or eastern Europe. I assume they are living in cramped shared accomodation and/or commuting a long way, and have no plans to start families while they're working in London.

That model could turn out to be viable for quite a while.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 10:52:56 AM EST
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" ... and have no plans to start families while they're working in London."

Finally, an effective method of population/birth control for the 99%.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 04:20:51 PM EST
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Getting back to a pre-industrial norm, probably. Or at least, following Japan.
by das monde on Tue Sep 1st, 2015 at 05:57:07 AM EST
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Not really, it is part of the same permanent economic crisis that keeps birth rates up in the countries still going through the transition. And since those birth means a lot more in total population, long term projection for population in 2100 has now increased to 11.2 billions.
by fjallstrom on Wed Sep 2nd, 2015 at 10:43:18 AM EST
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"... long term projection for population in 2100 has now increased to 11.2 billions. "

A lot of one factor, linear extrapolation without consideration for new major factors. Glad I won't be around to experience those "new major factors".

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Sep 2nd, 2015 at 02:07:16 PM EST
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My point still stands, austerity increases global population.
by fjallstrom on Mon Sep 7th, 2015 at 07:06:32 AM EST
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?! What tells you that?

The global population doubles every 40 years since the glorious 20th century, while it was like very two or so centuries in the old-fashioned unequal poor world. Knowing just "demographic transition" is not knowing much.

by das monde on Mon Sep 7th, 2015 at 04:09:49 PM EST
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long term projection for population in 2100 has now increased to 11.2 billions.

It was in the news recently, I am sure you can find the reports if you have an interest in the demographical data.

by fjallstrom on Tue Sep 8th, 2015 at 04:05:22 AM EST
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Projections are not data. And where does austerity come in?
by das monde on Tue Sep 8th, 2015 at 07:41:28 AM EST
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It's run on for a long time here in the US.
by rifek on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 10:39:05 PM EST
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Jeremy Corbyn poses national security threat, says George Osborne | Politics | The Guardian

A Labour party led by Jeremy Corbyn would pose a threat to national security by undermining the future of the UK's nuclear deterrent, according to the chancellor, George Osborne.

The chancellor said "an unholy alliance of Labour's leftwing insurgents and the Scottish nationalists" would shatter decades of near-unbroken Westminster consensus in favour of maintaining a nuclear capability.

Both Corbyn, the favourite to succeed Ed Miliband, and the SNP oppose the renewal of the Trident missile system being pursued by the Conservative government. Osborne said that would be disastrous.

Amid suggestions that Conservatives were delighted at Corbyn's surprise emergence as the favourite to lead the party, Osborne insisted the contest should not be seen as a joke.

"On the contrary, I think we should take it deadly seriously," he wrote in the Sun.

"Serously... in the Sun" is an oxymoron.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 02:27:47 AM EST
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given that the Tories used to paint Blair as a threat to Britain's security, I'd have said that being branded as a threat by a Serious Person should be a basic requirement for a Labour leader

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 05:31:49 AM EST
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That's why I wrote "Tories back Corbyn".

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 05:33:33 AM EST
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Ah yes, of course. Didn't notice, sorry

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 05:39:27 AM EST
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"Tories used to paint Blair as a threat to Britain's security"

Well, you've got to admit that in that they turned out to be right. Blair's ventures in Iraq certainly damaged Britain's security.

Of course, Tories enthusiastically voted for the invasion whereas most of Labour voted against it, so it would be hard to make the case that Tories would have been less of a threat, but compared to other potential Labour leaders, Blair definitely was a threat.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Sep 1st, 2015 at 04:53:53 AM EST
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The Grapevine
Icelanders across the political spectrum are showing increasing support for accepting more asylum seekers than the government originally planned.

The Icelandic government recently announced it was prepared to accept up to 50 asylum seekers over the next two years from war-torn countries such as Syria and Afghanistan. However, popular support - from the left and the right alike - is increasingly calling upon the government to welcome more asylum seekers than this, and the government appears to be listening.

Iceland's larger municipalities have recently said they would welcome more new arrivals, some of whom have already taken in asylum seekers and report good experiences with them. Shortly after these municipal announcements were made, a Facebook group imploring the Icelandic government to take in 5,000 asylum seekers was formed. Within a few days, it has already amassed over 7,000 signatures.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 03:46:37 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 01:02:51 PM EST
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 01:03:01 PM EST
Al-Jazeera journalists sentenced to three years in prison by Egyptian court | World news | The Guardian

An Egyptian judge sentenced three journalists to three years in prison on Saturday in connection with their work for al-Jazeera English in a verdict denounced by rights groups and news organisations as an assault on press freedom.

The ruling was the latest turn in a winding 20-month legal battle in which journalists Mohamed Fahmy, Baher Mohamed and Peter Greste had already spent more than 400 days in prison.

The case has been a high-profile illustration of the erosion of media freedom in Egypt in the two years since the military removed the country's elected Islamist president, Mohamed Morsi, from power.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 12:18:48 PM EST
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Syrians fleeing war find new route to Europe - via the Arctic Circle | World news | The Guardian

They tried the shores of Libya, the islands of Greece, and the plains of the Balkans. Now it has emerged that Syrians fleeing civil war have found another route to the safety of Europe: the Arctic Circle.

Dozens of Syrians have trekked to the far north of Russia this year in an unlikely bid to reach a little-known Arctic border crossing with Norway. Up to 20 Syrians a month are then crossing into the tiny Norwegian town of Kirkenes, which lies around 2,500 miles north of Damascus, and where the average daily temperature hovers just below freezing.

The town is the northernmost point of the Iron Curtain Trail, a cycle path that traces the boundary between western and eastern Europe during the cold war.

"It's a relatively new thing - it started maybe half a year ago," said superintendent Thomas Pettersen, the only policeman on duty in Kirkenes police station on Saturday.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 12:20:20 PM EST
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Julian Assange 'told Edward Snowden not seek asylum in Latin America' | Media | The Guardian

Julian Assange has said he advised the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden against seeking asylum in Latin America because he could have been kidnapped and possibly killed there.

The WikiLeaks editor-in-chief said he told Snowden to ignore concerns about the "negative PR consequences" of sheltering in Russia because it was one of the few places in the world where the CIA's influence did not reach.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Times, Assange also said he feared he would be assassinated if he was ever able to leave the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he sought asylum in 2012 to avoid extradition.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 12:22:38 PM EST
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Police hold Erawan bomb suspect | Bangkok Post: news

Police are holding a man with a fake Turkish passport on explosives possession charges following an arrest in the first possible breakthrough in the deadly Ratchaprasong bombing two weeks ago.

National police chief Somyot Poompunmuang said the "foreigner" whose nationality has not yet been confirmed could face more charges after further investigations.

"Authorities charged him with having explosives in his possession," he said at the scene of the arrest at an apartment building in suburban Nong Chok district of Bangkok on Saturday afternoon.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 12:38:03 PM EST
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Chad executes 10 Boko Haram members by firing squad: sources | Reuters
N'DJAMENA Chad has executed 10 members of Nigerian Islamist militant group Boko Haram by firing squad, a day after they were sentenced on terrorism charges, security sources said on Saturday.


Nigeria marks 500 days since schoolgirls seized by Boko Haram - Yahoo News

Abuja (AFP) - Relatives of over 200 Nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped by Boko Haram marked 500 days since their abduction Thursday, with hope of their rescue dwindling despite fresh efforts to end the insurgency.

The date was marked as the security situation deteriorated in northeastern Nigeria, where Islamists have stepped up deadly attacks since the inauguration of President Muhammadu Buhari, killing more than 1,000 people in three months.

Boko Haram fighters stormed the Government Secondary School in the remote town of Chibok in Borno state on the evening of April 14 last year, seizing 276 girls who were preparing for end-of-year exams.

Inside Boko Haram: Chibok girls as status symbols | Africa | DW.COM | 27.08.2015

DW: 500 days ago today (27.08.2015) 276 girls were kidnapped from Chibok triggering an international outcry. The women you interviewed said that the Chibok girls are now part of a bizarre Boko Haram hierarchy. What can you tell us about this?

I interviewed various women who met some of the Chibok girls while they were in captivity. My impression was that these girls now seem form a sort of palatial corps of domestic servants for the Boko Haram leadership. Apparently, several Chibok girls are assigned to the favorite wife of the head of Boko Haram Abubakar Shekau. I have also heard that the Chibok girls indoctrinate other abductees into Islam and inflict physical violence upon them, even though they themselves are also under surveillance. Owning a Chibok girl is a status symbol. The reason for is clearly the enormous international media interest in the girls' fate.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 12:50:30 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 01:03:15 PM EST
German grid keeps getting more reliable - 100% renewable - Renewables International

So much for renewable energy destabilizing the German grid: Yesterday, Germany's Network Agency published the SAIDI figure for 2014, showing that the number of downtime minutes fell to an all-time low.

It's getting hard to count the minutes of power outages in Germany. And it's getting hard to improve the figure.

As recently as 2006, Germany had 21.53 minutes of power outages, as counted in the SAIDI metric (report in German). That number has now fallen to 12.28 minutes as of last year, according to the official statistics from the Network Agency (website in German). Since 2009, the figure has hovered around 15 minutes, so this decrease of around 2.5 minutes represents a considerable improvement.

(...) Correlation is not causation, however. Just because these countries have fewer minutes of downtime does not mean that solar + wind are the reason. Rather, as a report from the CEER explained in 2013, other improvements have been made to the grid, specifically the use of underground cables rather than overhead lines.

While solar + wind are therefore not the main cause for lower downtime minutes, clearly high levels of fluctuating renewable energy are possible with extremely low SAIDI numbers.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 09:16:34 AM EST
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It's as if investment in infrastructure led to more reliable, more efficient infrastructure. But that's clearly silly.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 11:22:53 AM EST
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Must run on a balanced budget. Well known fact.
by Bernard (bernard) on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 12:05:48 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 01:03:28 PM EST
The World If: A compilation of scenarios
Automation would, more obviously, be bad news for taxi drivers. A study by Columbia University found that a fleet of 9,000 autonomous vehicles could replace all 13,000 taxis in New York. Passengers would spend less time waiting, and would pay less per mile, because paying drivers is the biggest cost for taxi operators. No wonder Uber is keen on driverless vehicles. "When there is no other dude in the car, the cost of taking an Uber anywhere becomes cheaper than owning a vehicle," observed its boss, Travis Kalanick, last year. Uber's first test vehicle was recently spotted on the streets of Pittsburgh.


Driverless cars cannot drink alcohol, break the speed limit or get distracted by a text message, so accidents should occur much less often. Google's driverless vehicles have driven 1.8m miles (2.9m kilometres) in the past six years, and have been involved in 12 minor accidents, none of which caused injury and none of which was the car's fault.


As well as being safer, self-driving vehicles would make traffic flow more smoothly, because they would not brake erratically, could be routed to avoid congestion and could travel close together to increase road capacity. A study by the University of Texas estimates that 90% penetration of self-driving cars in America would be equivalent to a doubling of road capacity and would cut delays by 60% on motorways and 15% on suburban roads. And riders in self-driving vehicles would be able to do other things. Morgan Stanley calculates that the resulting productivity gains would be worth $1.3 trillion a year in America and $5.6 trillion worldwide. Children, the elderly and the disabled could gain more independence (one of Google's videos shows a blind man doing errands in an autonomous car).

by Bernard (bernard) on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 12:10:03 PM EST
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And very shortly thereafter driving manually on public roads becomes illegal, as people count up the casualties of human drivers and compare them with those of automated cars. Traffic causes a lot of death, an tolerance for it will vanish very shortly after there is an actual alternative.
by Thomas on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 01:35:08 PM EST
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Brave new world.

How much longer for the human surgeons?

by Number 6 on Fri Aug 28th, 2015 at 06:11:09 AM EST
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People learn to drive in weeks. Surgeons take years. Some things are much easier to teach to machines than people, but I still expect true auto-docs to take a fair bit longer than the automated car. The need and the market are there, tough, so..
by Thomas on Fri Aug 28th, 2015 at 06:39:46 AM EST
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Tech nerds are smart. But they can't seem to get their heads around politics. - Vox

So that's where American politics stands today: on one side, a radicalized, highly ideological demographic threatened with losing its place of privilege in society, politically activated and locked into the House; on the other side, a demographically and ideologically heterogeneous coalition of interest groups big enough to reliably win the presidency and occasionally the Senate. For now, it's gridlock. You may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you

What does all this matter? For one thing, it can clear up a mystery that plagues Urban:

A lot of people have written about the hidden cost of carbon emissions, and many of them, on both sides of the political spectrum, have proposed a logical solution: a revenue-neutral carbon tax.

A revenue-neutral carbon tax is revenue-neutral because any increase in government revenue as a result of the tax would be offset by an equal decrease in something else like income taxes. This makes it a politically moot proposal.


When it comes to a carbon tax, the only explanation for not having one seems to be the power big oil has over the US government--because to me, it seems like every politician in either party should be in favor of a revenue-neutral carbon tax. Right?

Uh, wrong.

I see this kind of political naiveté among carbon tax supporters quite a bit. A revenue-neutral tax is "politically moot" only if you envision politics as a kind of ideological grid, with certain sweet spots where all of both sides' criteria are met. It makes sense that every politician "should" support any policy in those sweet spots.

It ignores the fact that the GOP is not a policy checklist but a highly activated, ideological demographic that views Democrats as engaged in a project to fundamentally reshape America along European socialist lines.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 01:57:46 PM EST
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Reminds me of grad school in California. All the arguments I had with "simple" flat tax supporters (asking how you define income usually resulted in a change of subject), or the proposal by a presidential candidate to replace the income tax by a state lottery (asking why a libertarian would support bans on other forms of gambling, or why, without such bans, anybody would play the state one, had the same effect).

So none of this is new.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 04:29:50 PM EST
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Well, flat tax supporters are simple.
by rifek on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 10:08:13 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 01:03:43 PM EST
August 27, 1991: The European Community recognizes the independence of the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
by Bernard (bernard) on Thu Aug 27th, 2015 at 12:12:47 PM EST
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August 29, 2005: Hurricane Katrina makes landfall on the U.S. Gulf Coast, flooding New Orleans.

For Hurricane Katrina anniversary, Obama cites inequities - CNNPolitics.com

New Orleans (CNN)President Barack Obama returned Thursday to an outwardly thriving New Orleans to mark strides 10 years after Hurricane Katrina slammed into the city.

But underneath the visible recovery lie persistent racial and economic inequities that haven't receded since the storm -- figures Obama said prevent New Orleans from declaring itself fully recovered a decade after Katrina.

"Our work here won't be done when almost 40% of children still live in poverty in this city. That's not a finished job. That's not a full recovery," he said, going on to cite statistics showing African-American households in the city earn more than 50% less than their white counterparts -- a figure well above the national average.

by Bernard (bernard) on Fri Aug 28th, 2015 at 04:09:37 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 26th, 2015 at 01:03:54 PM EST
Sarah Palin showers Donald Trump with adoration in 'interview of the year' | US news | The Guardian

It sounded like a match made in Tea Party heaven and did not disappoint. Sarah Palin and Donald Trump teamed up for a celestial voyage to the solar system where Trump is beloved, Trump is right, and Trump will win.

Palin, moonlighting as a guest host on the One America News Network, promised their encounter on Friday night would be the "interview of the year". In a strange way, it was compelling.

Nothing substantial happened, but here was Trump subject to gushing adoration, a heroic leader invited to share his wisdom and courage, leaving him unchallenged - and unmoored. The fantasies took flight.

"I've said it since the day he made the sacrifice to hit the campaign trail: voters crave the anti-status quo politician," said Palin, John McCain's surprise pick for vice-president in 2008, in her introduction, seated alone in a studio that could have been the bridge of the Starship Enterprise.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 12:18:11 PM EST
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Oh man, Trump.Palin would be the republican match made in heaven.

And the amazing thing is that a sizable chunk of the US electorate would absolutely vote for them. Question is: Would that be a majority?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 06:46:49 AM EST
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That's the question: to which extent the reserve of "angry white men" is able to carry enough swing states? (doesn't have to be a majority of the voters nationwide)
by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 12:19:11 PM EST
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They are not likely to exceed half of registered Republicans, although small portions of other demographic groups would also likely vote for him. Another question is, were Trump the candidate, how would that affect the voting of the center of the Republican Party.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 12:57:20 PM EST
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I don't see how Trump can win the GOP nomination.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 11:11:30 AM EST
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