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First Daughter at G20 Table

by Oui Sun Jul 9th, 2017 at 10:44:17 AM EST

President's daughter Ivanka 'fills in for him at G20 world leaders meeting' | The Independent |

Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka has apparently filled in for the US President at a round-table meeting with world leaders at the G20. Ms Trump accompanied Mr Trump to a session at the Hamburg summit and later sat in his seat next to Theresa May, Angela Merkel and other world leaders, according to a photograph.

The meeting, which took place on Saturday morning, was on the subject of Africa, health and migration.

Ms Trump, who works as an advisor to her father at the White House, was photographed sitting in his seat by a Russian G20 official who shared the picture on social media. The official claimed Mr Trump had left his daughter in his place while he attended bilateral meetings with other world leaders.

In Hamburg this morning the "first daughter" also launched a World Bank event promoting the organisation's Women's Entrepreneurship Facility Initiative.

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    "If she weren't my daughter it would be so much easier for her.
    That might be the only bad thing she has going, if you want to know the truth."

That candid aside came as Mr Trump spoke at the launch of the new women's entrepreneurship fund.

Mr Trump met Russian president Vladimir Putin for the first time at the summit, and held bilateral talks with Ms May on Saturday morning

At the #G20 launch of the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative

Ivanka Trump under fire after taking seat among world leaders at G20 | The Guardian |

The G20 Meeting must have done some good ... just read who got very disturbed today:

Donald Trump 'behaving like a dictator by leaving underqualified socialite dsughter to fill in for him at G20'

Pulitzer-winning journalist Anne Applebaum, said: "Because an unelected, unqualified, unprepared New York socialite is the best person to represent American national interests."

Nicholas Kristoff, a columnist for The New York Times, said: "Ivanka fills in for her dad beside Xi Jinping. To me, it feels banana-republicky for the US to be represented by an inexperienced daughter."

Angela Merkel, Christine Lagarde, Ivanka Trump and Sylvie Matherat debate female leadership
France pays final respects to women's rights icon Simone Veil


[Read more about Anne Applebaum and husband Sikorski @BooMan]

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 10th, 2017 at 03:17:16 PM EST
tbh just another day in the death of America.

They wanted him, they can deal with him. Right now, if it weren't for elon Musk, the place would be a write-off

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 10th, 2017 at 03:20:33 PM EST
Well, Dylan, Chomsky, Krugman, Saunders, Warren, the Coen brothers, Kyle Eastwood, Ron Carter...

There are still a few good people!

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Jul 11th, 2017 at 10:05:01 AM EST
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What the US has is 'Dollar Democracy' - one dollar, one vote - and THIS is what 'dollar democracy' buys.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 01:04:00 AM EST
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No. One dollar one vote would have given us a second Romney term. Trump was not the big-money choice.
by Zwackus on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 07:19:07 AM EST
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Trump was the Bigger Money choice, and so far he's working out just fine.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:09:50 AM EST
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They were both big money choice, one more for Koch-ed up extraction industries, the other for the MIC.
And surprise, they meet in the middle.
Either way Wall St cleans up.
We thought derivatives were bad, now they need saltier betting odds to get the profit juices flowing.

Like extinction.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 01:10:15 AM EST
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I continue to disagree.

An establishment Republican would have shut up about the wrong things long enough to get at least one major piece of legislation passed through a friendly House and Senate, whether it was "tax reform" or an "Energy Bill" or Obamacare repeal. Trump can't even do that much. He is gumming up the works.

Trump beat out the big money puppets in the Republican primaries by being a white-nationalist racist asshole, which surprised everyone by being the winning ticket in 2016. They have been working on him ever since, with no small degree of success, but the utter and complete incompetence of his team at every level has most certainly not been in their favor. Control of all three branches of government used to mean something - Trump has shown us just how much execution matters.

by Zwackus on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 04:51:48 AM EST
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Who benefits from an incompetent, ridiculous, toothless US?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:46:54 PM EST
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Not everything is to the benefit of everyone. Sometimes there is just fail, where pure stupidity and incompetence hurts everyone.
by Zwackus on Fri Jul 14th, 2017 at 12:36:24 AM EST
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That's unpossible: our opponents are super villains, not fallible humans.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:59:45 AM EST
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Obviously I'd have thought Putin benefits cos he'splaying a zero sum game where America's disengagement is always to his advantage.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 14th, 2017 at 03:24:43 PM EST
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A US withdrawal from the western Pacific frees China to look north to the biggest region of untapped natural resources on the planet.  They've already built the logistic structure needed for military operations north of the Amur.  They have just as many nukes than Russia.  The Liberation Army dwarfs the Russian army and is just as - if not better - armed, trained, and supplied.

It's not all Advantage Putin

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Jul 14th, 2017 at 05:04:50 PM EST
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No, the Russian's disengagement from E Siberia is probably a result of other issues closer to home, such as Ukraine, Caspian oil and the Baltics.

However, they've reacted to previous Chinese civilian incusion into siberia (a noughties entrepreneurial market across the whole N Amur region) by totally freaking out and led to a border closure.

the Chinese have Mongolia to plunder.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 14th, 2017 at 09:01:22 PM EST
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by Oui on Sat Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:55:29 AM EST
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The Democrats must be killing themselves for missing the opportunity to give Chelsea some "experience".....
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jul 10th, 2017 at 09:54:18 PM EST
People were concerned about Clinton and Bush dynasties...
by das monde on Tue Jul 11th, 2017 at 01:11:52 AM EST
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Not really. Chelsea didn't win or lose the DNC House seats in '16.
Hillary Clinton looks for her role in midterms | TheHill
"I won 23 districts that have a Republican Congress member, seven of them are in California."

Hopefully, the world is facing a House of Windsor ascension horizon.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Tue Jul 11th, 2017 at 06:54:58 PM EST
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Under the somewhat strange US party system, the Democrats don't really have a national leader until after the next season of Presidential primaries in 2020.  Hillary therefore remains their leader more or less by default, despite having been rejected by the electorate.

In a more rational system Democrats would have held those primaries by now, electing a leader to replace Hillary and to lead them into the mid-terms and the next Presidential election cycle. Their leader would then have three and a half years to gain experience, build a national profile, and do all the necessary fundraising and organisation building before the Next Presidential election.

Other than Hillary, the nearest Democrats have to a national leader is Nancy Pelosy, and she is even older (77) and almost as hated and discredited as Hillary. They therefore have no national focus and strategy to rebuild the party and act as a coherent opposition to Trump. No wonder there is a slight tendency towards nepotism in an attempt to fill the leadership vacuum. Ted Kennedy was effectively their leader by default when in opposition for similar reasons.

Index of Frank's Diaries

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jul 11th, 2017 at 09:18:57 PM EST
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I don't remember Gore being the leader by default, despite having really won the election. Isn't it really that Clinton is the leader by default the same way that she's always been the leader by default, even before the primaries?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Jul 11th, 2017 at 09:25:40 PM EST
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I don't agree. Gore may not have had much in the way of leadership qualities, and Hillary was no more than the front-runner (and establishment choice) leading up to the Primaries. But my whole point is that there is no such thing as a formal party leader until the next primaries in 2020, and that means that the Dem party is at best an inchoate series of factions incapable of coherent opposition to Trump or of developing a strategy, action plan, and organisational base for the mid-terms and the next Presidential elections.

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 09:59:34 AM EST
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That could be a reflection of the fact that the Dems see their base as useful idiots - supporters to be courted and fooled during elections, but ignored otherwise.

This isn't just about the primary system, but about the relative power of voters vs "sponsors" and lobbyists.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:20:20 AM EST
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Reflection or not, that exactly describes greater than 75% of the party that is terminally addicted to campaign contributions from the wealthy. And they have an increasing disconnect from the voters, too many of whom have caught on. Worse, the response of most of those is just to stay home on election day unless they find an inspiring candidate. Should one emerge by 2020 it will be 'Katy bar the door!' for that existing wealth dependent majority of the party. So a congressional party that matches the desires of a charismatic presidential leader will be the hardest goal to achieve. But, should such a POTUS be elected, they may be able to pull the congressional party leftward if the margin is large.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 09:42:39 PM EST
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And the hatred, especially of Nancy Pelosi, smells strongly of being purchased at considerable cost. Even so, it is a factor. Hillary has been a RW target since 1992 and has the complicating factor of being the wife of the Southern born POTUS who betrayed his racel by his welcoming of blacks into his and the national life AND for having such an uppity wife - or so says Festus Redneck. But that has received even more amplification by RW media, but, none-the-less remains a factor.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 12:59:25 AM EST
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Maybe but, using the same logic that Theresa May remains the leader of the tories in the UK, that can be an advantage.

Right now there are no compelling leaders emerging from the Democratic party, just as all potential leaders of the Tories are damaged goods with no credibility. Both know that they will have to move to the next generation, one whose bright stars have yet to come into their own.

So, those potential new people have two years to learn the ropes away from public gaze, schmooze the rubber chicken circuit, decide their real policy positions, determine what matters to them before they expose themselves to a far less ofrgiving media environment.

After all, thats what Obama did.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jul 12th, 2017 at 02:37:38 PM EST
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Yes May is now the fall guy for the almost inevitable collapse of the Brexit negotiations, at which point Boris will emerge to declare that the negotiations were never going to succeed because the EU is utterly corrupt and entirely unreasonable and that the UK is far better off without a deal, without "reparation payments", and totally free it pursue its own course both internally and externally.

Unsullied by messy attempts at compromise, he will become PM and hold a patriotic general election before the effects of no Brexit deal can make themselves fully felt. All attempts to portray this as a total disaster will be lambasted as lack of patriotism, a lack of faith in the UK's ability to go it's own way, and because Dunkirk proved the Brits are superior.

He will attempt to cut a Huuuge deal with Trumpland which could be hampered if Trump has lost the senate (unlikely) in the mid-terms and if no Democratic senators will support - which they probably will anyway.  The stage is then set for an antagonistic rivalry, possibly including a trade war, between US and EU with the UK acting as the front line for the US.

I don't think this will end well for anyone, but certainly not for the UK. "The West's" hegemonly over the world order will be broken and we will be back to the pre-WW1 rivalry between the Great Powers with shifting alliances and great global instability. Meanwhile the planet will overheat and go up in smoke...

Index of Frank's Diaries

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 09:38:12 AM EST
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Boris is not going to be next leader of the Tory party, or indeed ever. they've seen what a vacuous un-principled egomaniac looks like in charge of a country and, while the Tories may worship the US, they have no wish to saddle themselves with another Trump.

Right now there are a couple of possibles to replace May emerging from the pack of promising back-benchers, but there's plenty of time. But it will never be Boris or, indeed, any of the lead brexiteers.

As for the next election, excepting utter disaster, the only winner is going to be Jeremy Corbyn. Even the machinations of the Blairite right now seem to be playing into his hands nicely.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 11:36:26 AM EST
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Who will then wreck the UK by implementing the Tory Brexit and taking the blame.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:32:31 PM EST
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Oh, May will complete brexit before she leaves. Nobody is going to challenge her cos they don't want the blame. She's never sought to create alliances within the party and so doesn't notice how isolated she's now become.

The Tories are walking on eggshells cos they know they can't afford a leadership challenge till brexit is over but if they lose a crucial vote and an election is forced, they're also stuffed.

Also, Chuka Umunna seems to have become a little unhinged of late and seems intent on leading the last Blairites into some bizarre pact with the Tories that will probably make them a little more secure. I think he's punting around for a directorship to parachute into.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 01:01:29 PM EST
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There is indeed a development that looks increasingly likely: a growing resentment vis à vis the EU who "does not want to give Britain a fair deal" or allow "a successful Brexit" and is only aiming at punishing the UK. This narrative will fan the flames of xenophobia among the public - just what we need - and push the government to an even more aggressive posture towards the other European countries.

Even if the British economy takes a dip post-Brexit, the UK has one of the largest militaries in Europe and echoes of pre-WW I, early 20th century Europe do seem, alas, increasingly appropriate.

by Bernard on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:54:44 PM EST
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Our military isn't actually large, most of the spend is on white elephants like nuclear submarines, Trident and aircraft carriers for which there is no known aircraft.

Anyway, the people who can be wound up are tabloid readers who can be relied upon to wreak havoc at football matches, but whose political symathies are ggenerally directed into electoral self-harm.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 13th, 2017 at 01:07:03 PM EST
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I would rather have Barbie at my table than Jabba the Hut.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]protonmail[dot]ch) on Tue Jul 11th, 2017 at 03:14:49 PM EST

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