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Salman Hit Squad Murdered Khashoggi [Update-5]

by Oui Fri Oct 5th, 2018 at 06:33:46 PM EST

Changed title of diary, earlier version:

Missing VIPs - Media Remains Silent

[Update-1] Added latest news in comments below ...

No need to poison dissidents or "scumbags".

And Trump ally Crown Prince Salman is uneasy about criticism on his new policy to extract "tax" on the very wealthy by extraordinary means ...

Saudi journalist disappears from consulate in Turkey | UPI |
Washington Post prints empty column for Saudi writer missing in Turkey

More below the fold ...

[Update-2] Video footage shown on Turkish media …

Jamal Khashoggi: details of alleged Saudi hit squad emerge | The Guardian |

Saudi special forces officers, intelligence officials, national guards and a forensics expert were allegedly among a 15-person team tied to the disappearance in Istanbul of the high-profile dissident Jamal Khashoggi, it has been reported by Turkish pro-government newspapers.

The details of the alleged hit squad were listed on flight manifests leaked to Turkish media. Social media profiles of some of the alleged suspects link them to elite sections of the Saudi security apparatus.

Meanwhile, investigators are turning their focus towards the underground garage of the Saudi consul general’s home, where the cars thought to have carried Khashoggi are believed to have to have been driven immediately after they left the nearby consulate.

[Updatre-3] Death sentence executed …

Saudi Press On Khashoggi Before And Immediately After His Disappearance: Traitor And Collaborator | MEMRI |

'Okaz Columnist Ahmad Al-Shamrani: "One Who Betrays Us, Jimmy, Has No Place Among Us"

On June 15, 2018, Ahmad Al-Shamrani wrote in his column in the Saudi daily 'Okaz: "I have nothing to say about Jamal Khashoggi except that he is a traitor and has become the same as the apostate 'Abd Al-Bari 'Atwan [editor of Raialyoum.com and known for his criticism of the Saudi regime]. But 'Atwan has nothing to do with us, except in the sense that he once worked at a Saudi paper, [1] while Jimmy [Jamal Khashoggi] used to preach patriotism and saw those who come out against the leader and the homeland as traitors who should be prosecuted. That's what he said. And now he has become the sort of person he warned us against. You poor wretch, Jamal... You have become a servant of Turkey and Qatar, and perhaps also of the third side [of this triangle], Iran. This is not surprising, because whoever betrays the homeland where he lives and studied is easily [tempted by] money...

"Your masters are exhausting you, dragging you from one podium to the next to slander Saudi Arabia and its customs. I actually pity you when I see you wheezing into the microphone, repeating the same things over and over, while half of what you say cannot [be heard] due to your heavy breathing, oh Jimmy. It was Saudi Arabia, which you curse, that taught you and brought you out of the caves of Afghanistan [where you were a jihadi fighter] to make you into a media personality and chief editor of several papers. It is our leaders who placed the 'iqal [2] upon your head and taught you that nationality is the first priority and must not be bargained over. How did you trade your 'iqal for a turban [worn by the Turks and Iranians] and your Saudi robes for trousers that were possibly picked out for you [by someone else]?... One who betrays us, Jimmy, has no place among us... Our honor as Saudis, including your relatives, does not permit us to allow you to be part of our homeland..." [3]

Jamal Khashoggi, whom I know | CNN News Arabic |

This article by Dr. Abdul Khaliq Abdullah, a professor of political science from the UAE, and the opinions below, express the opinion of the author, and do not necessarily reflect the views of CNN.

A week ago, Saudi journalist Gamal Khashoggi is missing and with each passing day the mystery of his disappearance becomes increasingly mysterious. Jamal, who is keen to attend the media attention stopped writing suddenly, then left Saudi Arabia and now he entered the list of people disappeared in the world, the worst fate can be exposed to the writer and educated, who enters this blacklist no one knows his fate, whether alive or dead.

Jamal, whom I know is not worthy of this fate and did not seek such a fate, he is one of the noblest people named in the beauty of his creation.

Jamal Khashoggi, whom I know very close, did not want a moment to leave his home and live away from his small and large family. He told me in his last meeting in Washington: The most difficult decision he made in his life was to leave Saudi Arabia and live in exile. Every day in exile is about a thousand days of hardship.

I asked him why she left. Jamal was embarrassed by the question: fear of the difficult situation that is getting harder in Saudi Arabia. It was a difficult situation, but it is now intolerable.

"I was too shy to be jailed, and others were imprisoned for reasons that were unconvincing and unjustified. I escaped from the possibility of being jailed. I do not imagine myself behind an iron cell like friends of me who were once close to decision makers. And then the prison is not suitable for me after all that I have given to my country, and it is not appropriate for my country. So I decided to go out quickly and hurry and move away temporarily. I did not run away from home, but escaped the specter of the prison that was chasing me.

In addition to the fear that Jamal felt that he might be imprisoned, he received fraternal advice from high-ranking officials that he should leave Saudi Arabia quickly.


[Update-4] Breaking News …

Jamal Khashoggi case: All the latest updates | Al Jazeera – Qatar |

Turkey has proof journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed at Saudi embassy | DW |

The Turkish government has audio and video recordings proving that journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul earlier month, The Washington Post reported on Thursday.

Citing unidentified US and Turkish officials, the report said the recordings indicate the Post columnist and US resident was interrogated, tortured and murdered after he entered the Saudi consulate on October 2 to arrange paperwork for a marriage.

It was unclear if US officials had actually seen or heard the recordings, but the Post reported that Turkish officials have described their content to their American counterparts.

Saudi's 'Davos in the Desert' hit by cancellations over Khashoggi case | DW |
'Davos in the Desert' Offers Glimpse of Changing Saudi Arabia (2017)


[Update-5] Quite an about face for Saudi leadership …

Saudi: Khashoggi killing was premeditated | Gulf News |

Riyadh: Saudi prosecutors said Thursday that Turkish evidence showed the slaying of journalist Jamal Khashoggi was premeditated. A statement from the Saudi Press Agency said: “Further to the statement issued on the results of the preliminary investigation conducted by the Public Prosecution in the case of the citizen Jamal Khashoggi - may God have mercy on him - the Public Prosecution received information from the Turkish side through the Saudi-Turkish joint team that suggests the suspects in that incident had committed their act with a premeditated intention.”

Also Thursday, Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman attended the first meeting of a committee aiming to restructure the kingdom’s intelligence services after the killing of Khashoggi, the state-run Saudi Press Agency said.

Saudi crown prince: ‘justice will prevail’

Saudi Arabia’s crown prince denounced the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi as a “heinous crime”, and insisted that “justice will prevail”.

Attending an investment conference in Riyadh, Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman said the case of Khashoggi was “painful”.

“Those behind this crime will be held accountable... in the end justice will prevail,” Prince Mohammad said.

Saudi Arabia still has questions to answer over Khashoggi: Turkish FM | Hürriyet Daily News |


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French police investigate whereabouts of Chinese Interpol chief after wife reports him missing | The Straits Times |

French police are investigating the disappearance of the president of Interpol, Meng Hongwei, who was reported missing after travelling from France to his native China.

Meng's wife contacted police in Lyon, the French city where the international police agency is based, after not hearing from him since his departure on Sept 29, police sources said.

A person familiar with the investigation into the disappearance said the initial working assumption of Western investigators was that Meng had antagonised Chinese authorities in some way and had been detained as a result.

There have been several cases in recent years of senior Chinese officials vanishing without explanation, only for the government to announce weeks or even months later that they have been put under investigation, often for suspected corruption.

Missing Interpol president Meng Hongwei 'under investigation' in China | SCMP |

Saudi crown prince says Turkey can search consulate for missing critic | Gulf News |

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman said he's ready to allow Turkey to search the kingdom's consulate in Istanbul for a Saudi journalist critical of his rule who went missing after entering the building.

"The premises are sovereign territory, but we will allow them to enter and search and do whatever they want to do," Prince Mohammed said in an interview on Wednesday at a royal palace in Riyadh. "We have nothing to hide."

Jamal Khashoggi, who's been living in self-imposed exile for the past year, has been missing since Tuesday. His fiancee and friends say they fear he's been detained or kidnapped for his criticism of the government. The prince, however, said Khashoggi left the building not long after he entered.

He said the arrests of clerics, women activists and some businessmen over the past year were a small price to pay for peacefully eradicating extremism in the world's top oil exporter.

The prince said authorities have detained about 1,500 people over the past three years on national security grounds. The number, he said, pales in comparison with Turkey, where President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has locked up tens of thousands since a failed coup against him in 2016.

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'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Sun Oct 7th, 2018 at 04:02:48 AM EST
Journalist Jamal Khashoggi 'killed inside Saudi consulate', Turkish officials say | The Independent |

Turkey has concluded that a Saudi journalist who disappeared on Tuesday during a visit to his nation's consulate in Istanbul was killed on the premises and his body removed from the building, an official Turkish source has confirmed to The Independent.

The news was first reported by Reuters. Turkey is said to be preparing evidence to release publicly on Sunday or Monday concerning the ongoing investigation into the the disappearance of Mr Khashoggi, a prominent Arab journalist and regular columnist for The Washington Post.

The reports of Mr Khashoggi's possible murder at the hands of Saudi authorities came just hours after Riyadh announced it would allow Turkish authorities to inspect the consulate facility, in the upmarket Levent district on the European side of Istanbul.

'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Sun Oct 7th, 2018 at 04:04:08 AM EST
Erdogan: US Embassy makes Washington part of the problem | Ynet News Israel |

Some people accused Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam and the custodian of its holiest places, of surrendering Palestinian rights for the sake of its alliance with Trump and his tough stand on Iran.

A Saudi foreign ministry statement criticized Israel's violence against protesters and affirmed its support for Palestinian rights but did not mention the embassy move.

Saudi newspapers and state media also largely ignored the US move, instead focusing on domestic topics such as preparations for women to be allowed to drive from next month.

"We look at our shattered world where we accuse each other of betrayal and of abandoning Palestine, while the truth is we have all abandoned it," tweeted Jamal Khashoggi, a former Saudi newspaper editor.

"We are against the embassy move because this is our country. They haven't left us with anything," said Zeinab, a woman in the Palestinian refugee camp of Burj al-Barajneh in Lebanon.

"As an Egyptian and an Arab, I feel humiliated," said Sami Badreddin, 40, a state company employee in Cairo, whose country made peace with Israel in 1978. "They transfer the US embassy to Jerusalem while all the Arabs are silent."

"Trump hates Muslims and he is showing it every day," said Salim Hamlaoui, a student at Algiers University.

Retweeted by Jamal Khashoggi on Oct. 1, 2018 ...

I was surprised by the silence of brothers and friends of what is happening in Yemen of the collapse of the national currency and the collapse of the national economy and the silence is not applied and I did not hear one statement talking about the #FamineYemen  #SaveYemen_from the famine.

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'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun Oct 7th, 2018 at 04:29:54 AM EST
The Guardian view on Jamal Khashoggi: the missing Saudi journalist must be found | Editorial |

Many Arabs who seek freedom, equality and democracy feel defeated," wrote the Saudi Arabian journalist Jamal Khashoggi in August. "They have been portrayed as traitors by pro-government media and abandoned by the international community." Mr Khashoggi, who has written for the Guardian, is one such Arab. For more than three decades he has used his voice as a commentator, and position as an editor, to advocate for social and political reform in Saudi Arabia and the wider Middle East. Just over a year ago, in his first column for the Washington Post, he wrote of his anguish following a wave of arrests that included several of his friends - and explained that repression at home lay behind his decision to go into exile. This week Mr Khashoggi vanished in Istanbul, after entering the Saudi consulate there on Tuesday because he needed documents to marry his Turkish fiancee. The international community must call the Saudi authorities to account, demand proof that he left the consulate as they claim, and show that Mr Khashoggi has not been abandoned.

These are dark times for press freedom globally. The number of reporters imprisoned and killed has risen. The independence and diversity of the media in many countries is diminishing. New commercial pressures and the growth of the internet at the expense of news publishers are part of the explanation. So are the resurgence of authoritarian politics, and anti-democratic attacks on "fake news". Turkey has seen some of the harshest repression, which intensified after the attempted coup against President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in 2016, with titles closed down and many journalists put in prison.  

'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Sun Oct 7th, 2018 at 08:11:57 AM EST
I am not persuaded that this particular assassination merits a cause célèbre for a "free press." That is, I've no reason to assume Khashoggi is/was a free agent. I've no reason to assume that the Washington Post is/was his sole employer either.

There's this thing about "cover stories" ... apart from Trump's disingenuous concern for undesirable or unauthorized criminal activities.

Trump said CIA Director Gina Haspel [!] and other U.S. officials looking into the killing should return from the region Tuesday evening and Wednesday.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 24th, 2018 at 09:07:42 AM EST
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He was unambigously a journalist, and unambiguously murdered by a despot for the ideas he expressed in the press.

I care what clubs he belonged to, or what side jobs he did for who, insofar as it would obviously colour my reading of his articles. But as a poster boy for a free press, he's no worse than Julian Assange or Caruana Galizia.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Oct 24th, 2018 at 09:28:15 AM EST
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I am not prepared to offer distinction to one as opposed to any other victim of murder. Why start down that path.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 24th, 2018 at 12:16:46 PM EST
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I admire you, if that's true.

I care about the murder of journalists. I care about the murder of trade unionists, civil rights workers, ....

I don't care about every fait-divers murder in the world. Sorry, I have a hierarchy.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Oct 24th, 2018 at 02:20:16 PM EST
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To be perfectly truthful, distinction between murders must satisfy one of two tests of necessity in my judgement.
  1. length of gestation
  2. agreement on certainty of morbidity > 95%

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 24th, 2018 at 05:49:14 PM EST
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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Oct 7th, 2018 at 08:15:41 AM EST

China accuses former Interpol chief Meng Hongwei of taking bribes | SCMP |

A statement on the Ministry of Public Security's website also said police would form a task force to go after Meng's associates, adding that his "insistence on doing things in his own way means he has only himself to blame for being placed under investigation".

Meng's case is now in the hands of the country's new and powerful super-anticorruption agency, the National Supervisory Commission (NSC).

The acting president of Interpol, Kim Jong Yang, told Associated Press on Monday that it had not been told about the investigation of its chief.

"I find it regrettable that the top leader of the organisation had to go out this way and that we weren't specifically notified of what was happening in advance," Kim said in a phone interview.

"We still don't have sufficient information about what's happening [with Meng] or whether it has anything to do with Chinese domestic politics."

Shortly after the NSC announced its investigation, China's Minister of Public Security Zhao Kezhi convened a midnight Communist Party committee at the ministry, which expressed "unanimous support" for the probe against Meng and pledged "absolute political loyalty" to President Xi Jinping and the party leadership, according to the statement.

Central Commission for Discipline Inspection

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by Oui (Oui) on Mon Oct 8th, 2018 at 02:37:32 PM EST
A little bit of back-story :

The presidency of Interpol is a largely honorific post, not an executive one at all. There is a precedent for the current case : a former President, from South Africa, was recalled and jailed for corruption.

Meng Hongwei was atypical in that he lived at Interpol HQ (occasional visits was the norm for previous Presidents). What's more, his wife and children lived with him in Lyon, and still do.

China had considerably increased its contribution to Interpol, this was concomitant with the election of Meng Hongwei. It is speculated that the CCP/Government overestimated the purchase that the presidency would give them over such matters as the publication by Interpol of arrest notices issued by the Chinese government... Anything that looks political is, still, politely declined by the bureaucracy.

So most likely he was recalled for not getting value for money, and perhaps for refusing (or being unable) to act on specific cases.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Oct 8th, 2018 at 03:37:30 PM EST
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Apple Watch 'at heart of investigation' on missing Saudi journalist Khashoggi | Hürriyet Daily News |

Turkish newspaper Sabah said on Oct. 10 it had identified the 15 as members of a Saudi intelligence team. They included a forensic expert. A Turkish official did not dispute the report.

And investigators are trying to trace a vehicle that left the Saudi consulate at the same time as two cars destined for the airport, one of the officials said. This vehicle didn't turn towards the airport, but set off in the opposite direction.

This story is based on interviews with Turkish officials, Khashoggi's fiancee and more than a dozen of his friends, who gave insight into the columnist's state of mind in the days leading up to his disappearance, and explained why he went to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, not the embassy in his adopted home of Washington.

The case threatens to drive wedges between Saudi Arabia and Turkey and between Riyadh and its western allies. U.S. President Donald Trump said on Oct. 9 he plans to speak with Saudi Arabian officials about Khashoggi's disappearance. The mystery also threatens to undermine Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's drive to attract foreign investors and new high-tech business to a country that is too dependent on oil revenues.

US steps up pressure on Saudi Arabia over Khashoggi disappearance | Al Jazeera |
Turkish Officials Say Khashoggi Was Killed on Order of Saudi Leadership | New York Times |
Lindsey Graham warns there will be 'hell to pay' if Saudi Arabia killed missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi | CNBC |

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Oct 10th, 2018 at 09:30:28 PM EST

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Oct 10th, 2018 at 09:31:05 PM EST
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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Oct 10th, 2018 at 09:38:33 PM EST
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Well, the Magnitsky Act may at last be useful for good ...

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Oct 11th, 2018 at 06:22:03 PM EST
On the retour flight to Riyadh of the two private jets with associates of the Salman hit squad, one made a stop in Dubai (UAE) and the other in Egypt. Persons with sympathy of the Muslim Brotherhood are eliminated in these three dictatorial states. All are allies with Israel ... remember the assassination and indignation after Israel abused western passports by the 20+ member hit squad!

As Jamal Khashoggi's friend and one of the last people to see him before he disappeared, these are my thoughts | MEMO |

When we shook hands and bade farewell in front of the Ambassadors Hotel on Saturday 29 September, never in my wildest dreams did it occur to me that I would never see Jamal Khashoggi again. We had just finished dinner at a Turkish restaurant in Bloomsbury, London, with colleagues and guests who participated in our conference earlier that day.

It is now one week since Jamal went missing after entering the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. Although everyone following this tragedy has been hoping for the best outcome, it is becoming increasingly clear that something ghastly may well have occurred.

Having hosted him at his last public appearance, I feel a special sense of duty to record my own thoughts and impressions of this remarkable individual.

Upon close contact, the first impression one gets about Jamal is his intellectual energy and drive. His participation in our conference was not considered in our initial planning so when I called him in Istanbul to extend our invitation it was to attend as a guest, not as a commentator.

With striking humility, he accepted the invitation. It was at that point I decided that we had to take full advantage of his presence by asking him to be a panellist.

With his many years of experience covering all the major upheavals in the Middle East, Jamal was eminently qualified to make an invaluable contribution to our conference, which he did with aplomb and distinction.

Speaking on his country's involvement in Palestine, he was keen to emphasise the unwavering support of the Saudi people as distinct from that of its current political leadership. Indeed, he recalled nostalgically the early 1970s, when Saudi Arabia under King Faisal was in the vanguard of Arab and Islamic support for the Palestinian cause and defence of the holy sites threatened by Israel's military occupation.

US Intelligence picked up plan to lure Khashoggi into an abduction, gave no warning or protection

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Oct 11th, 2018 at 07:39:12 PM EST

See also most recent Update-4 in diary content above.

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by Oui (Oui) on Fri Oct 12th, 2018 at 01:34:42 PM EST
Saudi consul in Istanbul `relieved of post, to be investigated | Hürriyet Daily News |

Saudi Arabia's Consul General in Istanbul, where prominent Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi disappeared, has been relieved of his post and will be investigated, according to an official statement carried by Sabq newspaper on Oct. 17.

The Saudi online newspaper did not give details of those violations which the consul Mohammad al-Otaibi  is being investigated for.

Meanwhile, Turkish police arrived Al-Otaibi's residence in Istanbul at 4.45 p.m. on Oct. 17 to conduct a search as part of the Khashoggi investigation.

Turkish daily Yeni Şafak reported Oct. 17 that Al-Otaibi's voice could be heard in one of the recordings of Khashoggi's "interrogation" at the consulate.

According to the report, after Al-Otaibi told the interrogators to "do it somewhere else outside or I will be in trouble," he was told to "shut up if you want to live when you are back in Arabia."

Al-Otaibi returned to Saudi Arabia on Oct. 16.  

Turkish Police Search Saudi Consul's Home for Clues in Jamal Khashoggi's Disappearance | TIME |
Saudi consul general in Istanbul leaves for Riyadh amid investigation into Khashoggi's disappearance

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'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Wed Oct 17th, 2018 at 10:38:28 PM EST
Saudi suspect in Khashoggi murder dies in suspicious car accident

Mashal Saad al-Bostani

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Oct 18th, 2018 at 05:24:42 PM EST
So grave is the fallout from the disappearance of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi that King Salman has felt compelled to intervene, five sources with links to the Saudi royal family said.

As Khashoggi crisis grows, Saudi king asserts authority, checks son's power | France24 |

Last Thursday, Oct. 11, the king dispatched his most trusted aide, Prince Khaled al-Faisal, governor of Mecca, to Istanbul to try to defuse the crisis.

World leaders were demanding an explanation and concern was growing in parts of the royal court that the king's son Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, to whom he has delegated vast powers, was struggling to contain the fallout, the sources said.

Initially the king, who has handed the day-to-day running of Saudi Arabia to his son, commonly known as MbS, was unaware of the extent of the crisis, according to two of the sources with knowledge of the Saudi royal court. That was partly because MbS aides had been directing the king to glowing news about the country on Saudi TV channels, the sources said.

That changed as the crisis grew.

"Even if MbS wanted to keep this away from the king he couldn't because the story about Khashoggi's disappearance was on all the Arab and Saudi TV channels watched by the king," one of the five sources said.

"The king started asking aides and MbS about it. MbS had to tell him and asked him to intervene when Khashoggi's case became a global crisis," this source said.

Role of Mecca Governor Prince Khaled al-Faisal ...

Erdogan meets King Salman in push for Qatar mediation | The National UAE - July 23, 2018 |

Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan met with King Salman in Saudi Arabia as part of a push for mediation efforts to resolve the crisis with Qatar. Mr Erdogan was greeted at his aeroplane by the governor of Mecca province, Prince Khalid Al Faisal.

'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Fri Oct 19th, 2018 at 09:55:46 PM EST
yeah, well, how did that turn out?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 24th, 2018 at 09:09:27 AM EST
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angry arab syndication (15 Oct also at TruthDig)

See. There's this thing about US fed patronizing émigrés. Goes waaaaay back ...

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Oct 24th, 2018 at 06:42:39 PM EST

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