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by Oui Sun Apr 8th, 2018 at 07:40:24 PM EST

First phase, one stays on the propaganda theme of Russia is a rogue state - the face of our ENEMY.

Daily feeds of headlines detrimental to the people of Russia and its leader in the Kremlin - the Red Square of Communist infamy.

The Fall of the Wall between East and West wasn't enough of a proof the West WON!

Failure in the 1990s for a snappy makeover to a democracy and pure capitalism failed when the Yeltsin regime ended.

Putin represented to Soviet deep state of corrupt oligarchs and the military-intelligence complex (MIC). Very similar to the UK and USA by handcuffing the politicians whether from moderate centrists to far right. Trump cannot untie the strings attached between the White House - Pentagon - CIA in Langley Va.

US Congress with long-serving representation of MIC keeps the executive power in check. The lobbyists have been writing legislation and corporations the foreign policy manual of interference in sovereign states or by any means of regime change. Colour my revolution.

-1-  The so-called Novichok nerve gas attack by Russia on British soil. OPCW has become a tool of Western politics.

More below the fold ...

-2-  Once again a surprise "SARIN gas attack" in Douma, Syria. The last stand of the extremists who have caused a seven years enduring civil strife of inhumane acts of terror on the outskirts of the capital Damascus.

-3-  US - UK - France aim to retaliate to destroy the last vestiges of power held by Bashar al-Assad in Syria.

Who knows how Russia and its allies will react to a total humiliation by the Western Powers representing run-away capitalism.

John Bolton came onboard of the Trump train wreck - Just-In-Time.

I do expect the world will edge further to a new global conflict. Incomprehensible ... who will survive?

Dozens dead in suspected chemical weapons attack in Syria
EU calls for international response after suspected chemical attack in Syria

Reaction from Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs ...

Moscow calls 'chemical attack' in Douma 'fake news,' warns against Syrian intervention
Syria says ready to start rebel talks after alleged gas attack | Ynet News |

US denies Syrian reports of attack on air base, Israel stays silent | Ynet News |

Syrian state TV claims casualties caused in suspected US airstrike on T-4 airfield, two days after reports circulate that Assad used chemical weapons against civilians, prompting threat by Trump that his regime would pay a 'big price'; intel source says Israeli responsibility can't be ruled out.

Syrian state TV said there were casualties in what it said was a suspected US missile attack on a major air base in central Syria but the United States denied it had launched any air strikes against the country.

The state broadcaster earlier said explosions were heard at the T-4 airfield near Homs, which is close to the ancient city of Palmyra in central Syria.

According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (OSDH), at least 14 military personnel, including Iranians, were among those killed in the strike that took place shortly before dawn.

A Syrian military source was quoted as saying air defences shot down eight missiles fired at the base, also known as the Tiyas Airbase, where defence analysts say there are large deployments of Russian forces, and where jets fly regular sorties to strike rebel-held areas.

Syria: missiles hit Homs airbase amid outrage over Douma attack

Most likely perpetrator of the missile launch is Israel ...

14 said killed in attack on Syrian facility previously targeted by Israel | Times of Israel |

Iranians reportedly among fatalities in early-morning missile strike on T-4 air base; US denies involvement, IDF won't comment.

Syria's state-run news agency confirmed the strike, but did not comment on the number of casualties, saying only, "There are martyrs and wounded."

Although initially the agency said it was likely "an American aggression," following a denial by the United States, news outlets close to dictator Bashar Assad's regime reported that Israel was in fact behind the attack.

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by Oui (Oui) on Mon Apr 9th, 2018 at 07:36:01 AM EST
"A Heroic Story of Russian Resistance."
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Apr 9th, 2018 at 08:50:05 AM EST
I still see no real motive for the Syrian's to use chemical weapons? Apparently you can shrapnel, burn, mortar, and suffocate people with only moderately poisonous fumes like from a fuel bomb without anyone raising an eyebrow. Seems a quite arbitrary line in the sand but what would Assad gain from crossing it? Anyone remember the barrel bombs? As far as I could make out, they were evil because they were cheap. Though that didn't really swim.

The best line of reasoning I can come up with goes something like this: The first one, directly under the eyes of the UN weapon inspectors and probably several more were done by the rebels. Since it is clear to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention that no one in power cares one whiff about the veracity of the accusations the Syrians knew that they would be stuck with the blame anyway. And figured they might as well.

by generic on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 02:33:59 AM EST
The timing and instant unison from western MSM concerted, unsourced, unproven speculation and guilt by association are tells.
After Iraq why would any but the most easily gulled even bother to pretend they believe the Mighty Wurlizer any more?
Just as the Novochik story deflates, up comes another chemical attack.
So far I have chosen to believe that Assad, while undoubtedly ruthless as his father, would not have been that stupid as to wave a red flag, seeing as there is no need for overkill in turfing out a bunch of ragtag rebels from their lair. Plenty of other ways available.
However in the fog of war all things can be misattributed with relatively little effort.
Ostensibly 'Assad must go' because he is a favoured Russian ally and does terrible inhumanitarian things to his own people.
Seeing as the standard western reaction to such phenomena consists of blowing more shit up and arming the most corrupt cutthroats while vociferously blaming anyone but them,while making sanctimonious statements at the UN I doubt anyone believes the official line any more. The re-appointment of Bolton speaks volumes on its own. Nicki Haley's bluster about spanking (other) rogue superpowers likewise fools only fools, of which there are any, but they are bored of these stale old riffs by now too.
So it's merely a weary protocol so that the pillage may continue unabated, Assad can get kickbacks from a Russian pipeline and America can test weapons systems, Putin can measure the bluff and stay polite, knowing that when the dollar collapses his country's fossil fuel resources will soon make his country the local hegemon, prising Europe out of its Atlanticist grip and consigning the tired masses suffering under capitalist austerity to the benevolent diktat of centrally planned economies that are not fiat, but based on reality.  
So off we go into the media hinterlands to consume the varying flavours of fake news at the all-you-can-conspire Internet buffet.
It would be more entertaining were it not so existential. I had forgotten what it felt like to see world leaders twitchily fingering the Extinction button, now two generations after Peter Sellers had introduced us to gallows humour of unprecedented poignancy.
Couple that with the Erdogan-Kurdish-Greek bubbling conflict and Israel and Saudi hyper-armed puppets genociding away, Raytheon and Lockheed profits, global warming and a momentary world economy crash by tariff and trade wars and we have all the ingredients for a safe, happy, serene future ahead.  
Whew, so glad we have wise, balanced leaders to guide us seamlessly into a new age of peace, love and understanding.
And America has 600+ bases in Africa capable of making nerve gas?


"I read it on the Internet!"

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 04:54:56 AM EST
Jabhat al-Nusra are the proxy fighters of the U.S. in Syria and of Israel in Daraa and along the border of the Golan Heights .... supported by the West!

The loss for the Western alliance of the gains made against Bashar al Assad were unwound once Russia intervened. Within two and a half years the civil strife was subdued once the Western nations turned the table on the ISIS jihadists in the Anbar province and Mosul in Iraq. The victory was in a large part due to the Shia military units fighting alongside the Iraq Army. The US and its allies fought ISIS in eastern Syria along with the YPG Kurdish military units to capture Raqqa, the capital of IS in the Levant.

The remnants of jihadists in East Ghouta and Douma were permitted to leave the region and were bussed to the Idlib province. In the last few days before the transport was finalized, the West accused the Assad regime of gassing civilians in Douma hours before they would be freed once the terrorist left the area. Highly unlikely, but who knows?

Evacuation of eastern Ghouta stalls as rival factions squabble | Irish Times - April 3, 2018 |
As Syrian rebels quit Ghouta, Douma stands alone | Reuters - March 24, 2018 |

Syrian Rebels Tied to Al Qaeda Play Key Role in War | The New York Times - Dec. 2012 |

The lone Syrian rebel group with an explicit stamp of approval from Al Qaeda has become one of the uprising's most effective fighting forces, posing a stark challenge to the United States and other countries that want to support the rebels but not Islamic extremists.

Money flows to the group, the Nusra Front, from like-minded donors abroad. Its fighters, a small minority of the rebels, have the boldness and skill to storm fortified positions and lead other battalions to capture military bases and oil fields. As their successes mount, they gather more weapons and attract more fighters.

Full diary posted @BooMan ...

From the Long War with Proxies to Missiles Strike

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by Oui (Oui) on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 07:25:00 PM EST
Due to uncertainties of war with Russia, the Tory government decides to postpone Brexit. Junckers and the EU gladly approve the move ...

Next please!

[Of course fictief Onion style]

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by Oui (Oui) on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 07:29:31 PM EST
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German warship to deploy with Truman carrier strike group

The USS Harry S. Truman strike group is scheduled to leave Naval Station Norfolk this spring on a regularly scheduled deployment to Europe and the Middle East. The Truman and its escort ships will be joined by the German frigate FGS Hessen.

"The Hessen is Germany's most modern air defense frigate, so the unique capability the Hessen brings is to have a top-notch, state-of-the-art air defense system and weaponry, so it can really not only do its part in protecting the carrier strike group against air threats, but it's also able with its sophisticated combat systems to take over a leading role in the air defense of the group," German Rear Adm. Thomas Ernst, defense attache to the German embassy, said in a U.S. Navy video.

The Sachsen-class German frigate is the only type of ship in the Western world with three types of surface-to-air missiles, according to the U.S. Navy. Its radar also has a detection range of more than 200 nautical miles for air targets and can automatically follow up to 1,000 air tracks.

This will be the third time the Hessen has deployed with a carrier strike group, according to German officials.

    "The European ships will be training with Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S.
    Truman before they all deploy together to the Mediterranean some five months later."

We'll see whether the sailing orders are changed due to the Syrian crisis.

Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group will depart Norfolk for a regularly scheduled deployment to Europe and the Middle East

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by Oui (Oui) on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 09:39:57 PM EST
Russia aims to fend off US-led airstrikes with a OPCW inquiry in Douma attack

In a sign that Trump may be willing to press ahead with military action even though OPCW inspectors are traveling to Damascus, the president cancelled plans to travel to Peru for a Summit of the Americas, sending his vice-president Mike Pence in his stead. The US defense secretary, James Mattis, also cancelled engagements that had been scheduled for the weekend.

As well as Trump's consultations with May and Macron on Tuesday, the British and French leaders held a separate call of their own. Macron told reporters that the three countries would decide on how to respond to the Douma chemical attack "within days", adding that any air strikes would target Syrian government chemical facilities.

Macron made the remarks at a Paris press conference standing alongside the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed Bin Salman, who offered his country's support for US-led military action. "If our alliance with our partners requires it, we will be present," the Saudi leader said, wrapping up a three-day visit to Paris.

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France's Macron and Saudi prince discuss response to Syria (Photo credit: Yoan Valat via AP) l

In London, May convened a meeting of her national security council where there is strong support from her most senior ministers for military action. A Downing Street statement suggested some UK caution by continuing to state the chemical weapons attack had not yet been confirmed ...

A White House statement said Trump and May "agreed not to allow the use of chemical weapons to continue".

By convention, British prime ministers cannot send UK forces into combat action without an explicit vote of MPs. May is aware David Cameron was humiliated when he lost a Commons vote to take military action in 2013 to punish Assad's use of chemical weapons. Her leadership might not survive a similar defeat. The British Labour Party may oppose any action before weapons inspectors have formally confirmed a chemical weapons attack took place in Douma.

The question for May and other Western leaders is whether they decide they do not need further confirmation from the OPCW that an attack occurred, following graphic media and video reports.

In anticipation of airstrikes, the Syrian regime is reported to be moving its aircraft to the Russian base at Latakia, presumably in the expectation that they would be safe from destruction there. The US may be intent on grounding as much of the Syrian air force as possible, but will not wish to destroy Russian planes.

The US Navy has less firepower in the eastern Mediterranean than it did when Trump ordered punitive missile strikes for chemical weapons use in April last year. Now there is only one guided missile destroyer, armed with the Tomahawk cruise missiles used in April - the USS Donald Cook which left the Cypriot port of Larnaca on Monday.

Its twin, the USS Porter, which took part in the last Tomahawk attack, is on a port visit to Cherbourg, France. Another missile cruiser of the same class, the USS Ross has just completed exercises with the Royal Navy and left Plymouth on Sunday. It would take a few days to come within range.

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by Oui (Oui) on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:07:48 PM EST
by Oui (Oui) on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:14:53 PM EST

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by Oui (Oui) on Tue Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:17:03 PM EST
So the world will be fooled again in 2018 - just unbelievable. The same bastards in Washington DC from politicians in US Congress to the Pentagon, Intelligense Agencies and the likes of John Bolton and neoconservaties. A prove criminal trach record living their murderous lives with impunity.

1 - 2 - 3 TO WAR :: 3 - 2 - 1 FIRE!

The Iraq War: In the beginning was the lie | Deutsche Welle - April 2018 |

    On April 9, 2003, US soldiers toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad. Fifteen years later we know that this war cost hundreds of thousands of lives, plunged the Middle East into chaos -- and was based on lies.

The statue of Saddam Hussein was toppled in Baghdad, and on millions of TV screens around the world, less than three weeks after the start of the US-led invasion of Iraq. Those pictures from April 9, 2003, are etched on our collective memory. Yet even 15 years later, many questions remain unanswered. We still don't know, for example, exactly how many Iraqis died as a result of the war and in the chaos that followed.

Full diary posted @BooMan today ...

In the beginning was the lie ...

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 11th, 2018 at 09:34:19 AM EST
No surprise ... idiocy of America under the scourge of right-wing extremists. Has been brewing for decades, has ripened under George W. Bush and will explode under the Trump regime. John Bolton as poster boy of another war on a suffering Middle East. PNAC and the neoconservatives ... the apocalypse alliance of Israel - Desert Arabs of the Peninsula - the New World from New England to the Pacific Ocean.

The Iraq War was based on lies from the very beginning. Wel at least fifteen years later, the Democrats agree: "It's Putin's Fault." Morons, falling into the trap of mass media propaganda in the 21st century.

Trump tells Russia missiles fired at Syria 'will be coming' | DW |

US President Donald Trump threatened conflict with nuclear-armed Russia, as Washington and Moscow engaged in military brinksmanship over a suspected chemical weapons attack outside Damascus.

"Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and "smart!" You shouldn't be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!," Trump tweeted.

Emmanuel Macron broaches possible French airstrikes on Syria

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:35:48 PM EST
'Helping their economy'...by taking over their territorial resources no doubt.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Apr 14th, 2018 at 01:51:07 AM EST
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Wall Street is pushing towards new summits, record profits as the US deficit soars. Worries for a later day, we can always cut welfare, hospital costs, and refrain from caring for the poor ... LOSERS!

The Russian economy is in a poor shape, we aim to help them put new policy in place. But Putin has got to GO!

US and Russia closer to open conflict than any time since Cold War | The Independent |

Following Tuesday evening's abortive UN Security Council meeting, air strikes on Syrian military targets now seem a matter of hours away. With this, the world has moved one step closer to a potential direct clash between two military superpowers.  

On its part, Moscow has refrained from walking back on the stark red lines first issued in March by the chief of its general staff, Valery Gerasimov. On Wednesday morning, Russia's ambassador to Lebanon reiterated Mr Gerasimov's warnings: Russia would shoot down missiles and strike any platforms used to launch missiles to Syria if it considered its servicemen to be under threat. He appeared to go further to suggest any missiles fired at Syria would be shot down.

Not since the Cold War has Moscow made such a direct and public threat to military engage with the US army --  to strike at its ships and planes.

The prospect of a military clash stimulated Mikhail Gorbachev, one of the architects of the end of the previous confrontation, to make a rare media intervention.

"There is an enormous sense of alarm," said the last Soviet leader. "I'm incredibly disappointed with the way that our current leaders are dealing with things -- they seem incapable of dialogue, of using diplomatic mechanisms, and politics has instead turned into an exchange of accusations, sanctions and military strikes."

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A Kurdish fighter looks out over the devastated Syrian village of Halimce after retaking it, along with the nearby city of Kobani, from ISIS thugs. (Photo credit: Gett Images)

United Natios Meeting: Following Three Draft Texts on Chemical Weapons Attack in Syria, Security Council Fails to Agree upon [A New] Independent Investigative Mechanism

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 11th, 2018 at 03:06:41 PM EST
Before and after Russian intervention in Syrian civil war | 2015-2018 |

Psyops and propaganda, the fog of war, as well as the difficulty to obtain reliable information on the Islamic State, all interacting, contribute to this  complicated situation.

The scope, intensity and evolution of the threat constituted by the Islamic State, its Khilafah and the worldview and system they seek to establish (see the Psyops series), as well as the length of the war and the prospects for its fate, fundamentally depend upon the Islamic State's ability to be successful in meeting aims located along three interacting dimensions: Wilayat Sanaa, Yemen, Islamic State, IS, ISISconsolidating and developing the Islamic State and its Khilafah as a polity in all its facets, asserting supremacy over actual or potential competing groups and fighting victoriously against attacking foes.

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Stalemate per today with regional powers establishing themselves inside the Syrian sovereign state.

Russia will shoot down US missiles fired at Syria and retaliate against launch sites, says ambassador | Reuters |

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 11th, 2018 at 05:46:30 PM EST
Iran hurls 'support for terrorism' charge back at Saudi Arabia | Dawn - Pakistan |

Iran hit back at Saudi accusations that Tehran provides "support for terrorism", pointing at alleged links between Riyadh and militant groups such as Al-Qaeda and Islamic State (IS).

Countries in the region "will never forget the role played by Saudi Arabia in conspiring for, supporting and arming violent terrorists and extremists such as Al-Qaeda and Daesh (IS) and other similar groups," Iran's foreign ministry said.

It also singled out Saudi support for Iraq's fallen dictator Saddam Hussein in his 1980-1988 war against Iran, its military intervention in Yemen since 2015 and its apparent rapprochement with Israel.

Iran, a bitter regional rival of Saudi Arabia with which diplomatic ties were cut in 2016, was responding to the kingdom's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman who referred to Tehran's "support for terrorism" during a visit to Paris.

FO summons US ambassador over death of biker in accident involving American diplomat

Macron defends French arms sales to Saudi Arabia, voices concern for rights in Yemen | France24 |

President Emmanuel Macron defended French weapons sales to the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen, but said he was concerned by the humanitarian situation and would host a conference on the issue before the summer.

"Between now and the summer a joint conference will be held on Yemen to clarify what is being done and what needs to be done," Macron said at a news conference alongside visiting Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

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Macron veut "la paix" entre l'Arabie saoudite et l'Iran, sur fond de crise au Moyen-Orient - Nov. 2017

When asked about civilian casualties, Prince Mohammed said the coalition was doing everything to avoid civilian casualties in Yemen, but that mistakes were inevitable in conflicts.

Pressure has been mounting on Macron to scale back arms support for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), which are leading the coalition fighting the Iran-aligned Houthi group that controls most of northern Yemen and the capital

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 11th, 2018 at 09:02:09 PM EST
Security Council fails to adopt three resolutions on chemical weapons use in Syria

The Council rejected a third text - also proposed by Russia - which concerned the work of the OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM).

The draft received five votes in favour (Bolivia, China, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan and Russia), four against (France, Poland, the United Kingdom and the United States), and six abstentions (Cote d'Ivoire, Equatorial Guinea, Kuwait, the Netherlands, Peru, and Sweden).

Ahead of the Security Council meetings today, UN Secretary-General António Guterres had repeated his call on 15-member body to "find unity" on the issue of use of chemical weapons in Syria and ensure accountability.

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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:26:18 PM EST
by generic on Thu Apr 12th, 2018 at 02:41:59 AM EST
It's freaking madness.

One would have thought that if nuclear war was being threatened, it would at least be over something consequential. But no, it's over what weapons killed 40 people in a war that is killing thousands. And all the involved has blood up to their elbows and points with accusations at their opponents bloody hands.

The US has lost this war, can't they just declare victory and go home already?

by fjallstrom on Fri Apr 13th, 2018 at 08:09:06 PM EST
The US has lost this war, can't they just declare victory and go home already?
That's exactly why they won't, the world's greatest military (TM) can't afford the lost credibility involved in turning tail now.
They are (very stupidly, imo) counting on Putin staying unruffled and NOT reacting to this stream of projections, accusals, provocations and insults they are directing at him.
It's the 'We're crazier than you dare us risking being' ploy Nixon used.
It's a bluff Putin has called, for now. By not reacting he shows himself to be the only adult in the room (with Lavrov and Zacharova ably backing him up).
The American military has always been there to promote and protect gas and oil interests for the big boys hiding behind their political puppets.
Trump is on BBC telling us the attack has started.
He is out-Bushing GWB for holy war against 'barbarism and brutality' rhetoric.
Tugging God's jacket in the last sentence for His rote blessing to All Things American. Macron ensures Goldman Sachs continued backing for war profits. May delusional as ever, Blair rubbing his hands with delight.

Explosions in Damascus. Nice of Trump to give Assad time to get out of Dodge.
Over to you Vladimir... wait till you can see the whites of their eyes.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Apr 14th, 2018 at 01:47:09 AM EST
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PM statement on Syria: 14 April 2018
Mattis, Dunford Detail Attacks on Syrian Chemical Arsenal | Pentagon |

Syria: US, UK and France launch air strikes in response to chemical attack | The Guardian |  

The Pentagon said the air strikes, which began at 4am Syrian time, involved planes and ship-launched missiles, more than a hundred weapons in all. Officials named three targets: a scientific research centre in Damascus, a chemical weapons storage facility west of Homs, and another storage site and command post nearby.

"Right now, we have no additional attacks planned" the US defence secretary, James Mattis, said. "This is a one-time shot."

Mattis expects Russia 'disinformation campaign' on Syria strikes | Times of Israel |

James Mattis, the US defence secretary, said more than double the number of missiles were used than in the US air strike against Syria in April 2017, when 59 missiles were launched.  He also confirmed that the strike was over during a Pentagon briefing at around 10.10pm, meaning it lasted no more than 70 minutes.

A US-Russia "deconfliction line" to avoid crashes over Syrian airspace was used, the official said, but he stressed it is used most days.

Mr Mattis indicated Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, had not been a target when asked, saying the regime's chemical weapons programme had been the focus.

General Joe Dunford, who is chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the US chose targets to avoid hitting Russian forces.

The US military warned Russia of areas it would be operating in, but did not coordinate planning or targets, Dunford said. Mattis and Dunford were joined at the Pentagon podium by British and French top officers.

Will Macron do in Syria what Obama wouldn't? | France24 |

I expect the Saudi Boy Prince will spread some more wealth from the oil dollars earned during the Iraq War under George Bush. The weapons bought by the Arab states will be in equal strength compensated to Israel. High fives all around.

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by Oui (Oui) on Sat Apr 14th, 2018 at 04:48:29 AM EST
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Well, if they leave completely then Turkey will go all ISIS on the rest of Rojava. Though it is hard to see how that can be avoided in any case. The Syrians by all accounts don't intend to compromise on total control over their territory and they couldn't stop Turkey even if the Kurds capitulate on all points. Russia seemed quite fine with the federal ask earlier in the conflict to the point of putting pressure on the Syrians. But since the coup it has gotten closer to Turkey and the relationship with the Kurds has deteriorated since the eastern canton moved more fully into the US camp. And the clashes between them the government haven't helped.
A sort of related point that's worth pointing out is that everything that happened since points to the Turks suspecting US involvement in the coup. The Turkey - Russia rapprochement is a fact. They wouldn't sell S-400 missles and give them free hand in Afrin otherwise.
by generic on Sat Apr 14th, 2018 at 05:57:28 AM EST
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