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Summer Recess Debate - Latter Days of Boris

by Oui Thu Aug 8th, 2019 at 08:23:46 PM EST

In another thread, a worthwhile discussion takes place about no-deal Brexit, early election and by-passing the House of Commons to force through the Tory-Brexit plan. Hatched man is PM's chief advisor Dominic Cummings. The rebels within the Conservative party will not accept the doomsday scenario the Brexiteers are preparing for Britain. The early days in September will be crucial to give Parliament their say or lose their voice on Brexit.

Re: "constitutional crisis"

Occupier Downing Street 10  

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Further developments today ...

Dominic Cummings takes swipe at Grieve over confidence vote plan

Boris Johnson's most senior adviser, Dominic Cummings, has laid down a challenge to the Conservative rebel Dominic Grieve, suggesting that parliament would not find a way of forcing out the prime minister to stop a no-deal Brexit.

Grieve, a former attorney general, has said it would be unconstitutional for Johnson to defy any vote of no confidence and remain in Downing Street until after the Brexit deadline of 31 October.


Speculation intensified that Johnson was preparing for a snap poll after it emerged he had brought in Isaac Levido, the righthand man of the Australian election guru Lynton Crosby, to a new campaigning role at Conservative party headquarters.

Foreign Policy: Boris Ally Lynton Crosby and CTF

The voters had their say in the Referendum, we aim to honor their choice and won't let the House of Commons stop us now ...

Is Boris just rehearsing some floating balloons inside his home with his mistress at his side? Or is Boris formally advocating these lines as Prime Minister in the Brexit Battle for Britain? Writing his name in the history books forever and ever.

Boris Johnson calls for EU 'common sense' over Brexit backstop

Boris Johnson has said he hopes the EU will "show common sense" and agree a new Brexit deal, as No 10 refused to rule out scheduling an election in the first days after leaving the EU on 31 October if Johnson loses a confidence motion.

The prime minister said he still hoped to broker a compromise with the EU, days after it was reported Brussels officials now believed the UK was heading full tilt toward crashing out without a deal with no serious efforts being made to renegotiate.

"I'm sure there is compromise to be found and, as we've made clear, the backstop just doesn't work for a proud democracy like the UK," Johnson told the BBC. "We don't want to go down that route. But there's every possibility for the EU to show flexibility. There's bags of time for them to do it and I'm confident they will."

He maintained the UK was working very hard to get a deal and "conversations are going on the whole time" but that the backstop would turn the UK into a satellite state.

Bluster and a yellow streak ...

Confidence  and  caretakers: Some  less-obvious  implications  of  the Fixed-term Parliaments Act
Will No-Confidence Vote Write Brexit's Next Chapter? | Bloomberg |

Corbyn: Johnson plotting abuse of power to force no-deal Brexit | The Guardian -  ½ hr ago |

Jeremy Corbyn has called on the UK's most senior civil servant to intervene to stop Boris Johnson forcing a no-deal Brexit in the middle of an election campaign, amid rising signs the country is heading for the polls again this autumn.

The Labour leader wrote to Sir Mark Sedwill, the cabinet secretary, accusing the prime minister of plotting an "unprecedented, unconstitutional and anti-democratic abuse of power", after it emerged No 10 would be prepared to delay an election until immediately after 31 October if Johnson loses a no confidence vote among MPs.

In his letter, Corbyn demanded urgent clarification of the rules around purdah, which are meant to prevent the government taking major policy decisions during an election campaign.

He asked Sedwill to confirm that if the UK is due to leave the EU without a deal during an election campaign, then the government must seek an extension to article 50 and allow an incoming administration to take a decision about Brexit on the basis of the result.

UK opposition warns Johnson against Brexit 'abuse of power' | AP News |

Related reading ...

Top civil servant urged to block Boris Johnson's appointment of Brexit campaign chief as senior aide

by Oui on Thu Aug 8th, 2019 at 10:26:11 PM EST
When the dust has settled, that may take more than a few years! Decision day will come: Oct. 31. Interesting article ...

"The cooperation between me and a fellow MEP shows that we can challenge the broken two-party system."

I'm a Brexit party MEP. With the Lib Dems, we can reboot Britain's politics  

Brexit has shattered the British postwar consensus, polarised political parties and weaponised our national conversation. Pretty much every relationship in our lives is now subject to the gravitational pull of either leave or remain. I fell into the Brexit vortex three months ago, frustrated by my perception of MPs' betrayal of the 2016 referendum, and was spat out as a Brexit party MEP. Since then I've been happy to hold the EU, government and official opposition to account.

Neither of our two major political parties have thought much beyond the immediate crisis. Both are reacting in fear of the Brexit party and Lib Dems. They are right to be scared: the Brecon and Radnorshire byelection saw Labour relegated to fourth place and the Tories losing thanks to the Brexit party. But if either think there's any chance of Britain returning to a cosy two-party duopoly, they're kidding themselves.

For all the talk of one nation Conservatism and national unity, Boris Johnson's one-dimensional government is locked and loaded on saving its own skin. "Do or die" is the only strategy open to a government that has spent three years negotiating against itself. That may be what's needed to lance the Brexit boil, but it's not a formula to engage the 48% who voted to remain, including many existing and potential supporters.

The same issue lies at the root of Jeremy Corbyn's problems. In moving towards a remain agenda, he is turning his back on 17.4 million leave voters, including huge numbers of Labour supporters.

by Oui on Fri Aug 9th, 2019 at 07:38:48 AM EST
But if either think there's any chance of Britain returning to a cosy two-party duopoly, they're kidding themselves.

That's the ground state of a FPTP system: it's pretty much unavoidable in the long term.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Aug 9th, 2019 at 10:43:27 AM EST
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A bit of taste of the future ...

by Oui on Fri Aug 9th, 2019 at 09:11:00 AM EST
I'd be astonished the UK gets away with only a 2% contraction following No Deal.  Somewhere in the 5% to 10% range year/year is much more likely.  Any UK JIT source is going to see their business collapse.  Any UK manufacturer relying on JIT parts from a EU supplier will also see their bottom line collapse as they go back to Old School logistics warehousing.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Aug 9th, 2019 at 05:08:39 PM EST
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A no-deal Brexit won't be a clean break: this nightmare will go on for ever | The Guardian Opinion |

The myths of a no-deal Brexit are about to collide with reality. Those myths are many, and they flourish on both sides of the great divide. For remainers, the greatest is that no deal could never happen. They look at the polls that show far more Britons oppose a crash-out from the EU than support it - 50% to 38%, according to Ipsos Mori - and they can't quite believe that any government would defy the public will on so grave a matter.

They look at the sensible majority of MPs who have voted to thwart it and they assume that, for all the bluster from Boris Johnson and his team, when it comes to the crunch, reason will prevail. That, in the ultimate battle of the Dominics, Grieve will triumph over Cummings.

They fail to factor in the central, dispiriting fact: that while no-dealers are united in parliament, the resistance is hopelessly divided. Labour, the Liberal Democrats, the SNP and assorted Tory rebels agree that no deal is a disaster, but they cannot settle on a common strategy to stop it. Labour has said it will not countenance joining the other parties in an emergency administration formed for the sole purpose of avoiding the calamity of no deal, even though such a rare, extreme measure is probably what it will take. The result: Johnson will be allowed to commit his act of national arson, because the opposition couldn't agree on a hose.

What's Jeremy Corbyn up to ... does anyone grasp where Labour is heading in the Brexit disaster? There is no time left and Boris Johnson will not deal with the EU of Brussels. On military, intelligence and foreign affairs the British have already opted out of Europe and aligned themselves with Trump's Grand Empire.

Foreign Policy U-Turn as U.K. Joins U.S. in Strait of Hormuz Mission

After Britain's piracy off Gibraltar ...

Britain Says It Won't 'Barter' With Iran Over Seized Tankers | RFERL |

Related reading ...

Britain to join US naval blockade of Iran

Boris Johnson and his Tory Brexiteers wagging the dog in a war with Iran for the month of September ... free sailing into a no-deal Brexit. The worst still has to come ... the ghost of Churchill huh?

by Oui on Fri Aug 9th, 2019 at 06:02:43 PM EST
Besides that, a vocal proportion of the UK is still calling itself a democracy.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Aug 10th, 2019 at 05:23:11 PM EST
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No Mr. Cummings, the EU Referendum was not a free pass for a no-deal Brexit! You already lied and cheated during the campagne itself, is that the Conservative vision how a democracy should be run by misfits and mischief? Real face of USA Capitalism. A world run by oligarchs outside the realms of justice and international law.

Mr Johnson's plot to subvert democracy is more dangerous than Brexit itself | The Guardian Opinion |

The requirement that an election must be called by a government that has lost a confidence vote was "a firm convention" rather than solid legislation, as are the understandings that a government won't unreasonably delay an election and will not do anything contentious once a campaign is under way. When people refer to the British constitution, they are talking about a hotch-potch of such conventions, combined with ancient charters, precedents, international agreements, legislative bolt-ons and unwritten understandings.

The fabric of this messy tapestry is held together by a crucial thread. That is an underlying assumption that everyone can be trusted to behave in a proper way. In the absence of a formal constitution, British democracy is heavily reliant on politicians acting with honour and playing fair.

A Power Grab by Tories under leadership of Boris Johnson

What if they don't? What happens then? We may be about to find out if Boris Johnson faces a no-confidence vote this autumn, loses, refuses to quit as prime minister and barricades himself in Number 10 for long enough to force through a no-deal Brexit before an election can take place. This is a scenario so grotesque as to be scarcely believable. That doesn't make it an impossible one.

Cummings the new Rasputin is outshining Johnson as antihero-in-chief

100 Years ago ...

The Death of Grigori Rasputin - Dec. 1916

In the comparison between Rasputin and Cummings, "religious" charlatan should be placed in the contemporary "right-wing" dark forces undermining the true will of The People.

by Oui on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 08:33:55 AM EST
by Oui on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 10:00:29 AM EST
British diplomats to pull out from EU decision-making meetings within days | The Guardian |

In an attempt to reinforce the message that the UK is leaving the EU by 31 October, "do or die", the UK would stop attending the day-to-day meetings that inform EU decision-making.

The move under discussion is said by UK officials to be in line with Boris Johnson's first statement in the House of Commons in which he said he would "unshackle" British diplomacy from EU affairs.

Critics have countered that the symbolic walkout would merely leave the UK blindsided on decisions and ultimately damage the national interest.

The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, said he would attend a meeting of his EU counterparts at the end of August in Helsinki.

Luisa Porritt MEP, the deputy leader of the Liberal Democrats in the European parliament, said: "Boris Johnson is unnecessarily sabotaging British influence in Europe.

by Oui on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 10:02:00 AM EST
At this point the Leavers are running a heavy-duty propaganda campaign to pin the looming economic, etc.,  debacle caused by Brexit on the EU.  The only thing they care about is who gets blamed for the catastrophe in the puny little minds of 35% of the population since that's enough to keep them in power under the existing FPTP system.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 05:31:54 PM EST
The Remaining opposition is Left in disarray ... can't get their message across as bully Boris demands the air waves 😖
Apparently Trump's #1 bull dog Bolton was sent to the disunited Kingdom and complete the separation from the EU on security, foreign affairs and the military. Trump desparately needs to loosen the UK from the Iran deal. Trump and Johnson doing it together in the Strait of Hormuz. 😠

The nightmare ain't over just yet!

by Oui on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 06:08:11 PM EST
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While it would be amusing to see the USN fight to the last RN ship I don't think it is very likely.  There's no gumption here for an Iranian War.  They've already pulled out all the propaganda tropes that worked in the past without effect.  Further, in about 6 months the UK won't be able to logistically support a war fleet in the

Bottom Line: Bolton, et. al., had their second chance at implementing The Project for a New American Century and blew it.  Apparently they came damn close, but no cigar.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 07:43:42 PM EST
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I guarantee they have not given up yet.
by rifek on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 10:55:48 PM EST
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They won't give up until they are dead and that doesn't matter.  The PNAC Neo-Cons have lost their credibility.  My take is the only reason they have any power is they were willing to serve in the Trump administration when nobody else was.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Tue Aug 13th, 2019 at 02:31:46 AM EST
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A factor is that it's not just the English who pine for the non-sunsetting British Empire. Just having the Queen on America's side is a powerful geopolitical statement.

Australian support for republic slumps

by asdf on Tue Aug 13th, 2019 at 02:19:52 AM EST
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