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Fisheries To Be Sacrificed for A Deal

by Oui Wed Dec 23rd, 2020 at 06:25:55 PM EST

Gossip from journalists in Brussels ... there will be a deal today ... negotiators Michel Barnier and Lord Frost are finalizing deal which will be presented in a call between Johnson and Von der Leyen this evening.

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EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement: protecting European interests, ensuring fair competition, and continued cooperation in areas of mutual interest

President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen said: “It was worth fighting for this deal because we now have a fair and balanced agreement with the UK, which will protect our European interests, ensure fair competition, and provide much needed predictability for our fishing communities. Finally, we can leave Brexit behind us and look to the future. Europe is now moving on.”

The European Commission's Chief Negotiator, Michel Barnier, said: “We have now come to the end of a very intensive four-year period, particularly over the past nine months, during which we negotiated the UK's orderly withdrawal from the EU and a brand new partnership, which we have finally agreed today. The protection of our interests has been front and centre throughout these negotiations and I am pleased that we have managed to do so. It is now for the European Parliament and the Council to have their say on this agreement.”

The draft Trade and Cooperation Agreement consists of three main pillars:


  • Goth parties have committed to ensuring a robust level playing field by maintaining high levels of protection in areas such as environmental protection, the fight against climate change and carbon pricing, social and labour rights, tax transparency and State aid, with effective, domestic enforcement, a binding dispute settlement mechanism and the possibility for both parties to take remedial measures.
  • More to be added ...

    by Oui on Wed Dec 23rd, 2020 at 07:44:15 PM EST
    by Oui on Wed Dec 23rd, 2020 at 07:44:58 PM EST
    by Oui on Thu Dec 24th, 2020 at 12:03:39 AM EST
    by Oui on Thu Dec 24th, 2020 at 12:05:03 AM EST
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    by Bernard on Thu Dec 24th, 2020 at 10:51:50 AM EST
    From Sunrise to High Noon ... the Ultimate Challenge

    Ahh fishes are the problem yet ... a few lines and hooks yet to agree ...

    Yawn 😴 press conference in waiting ... it will be a major change over time as the UK will move further away from EU trade rules ... per sector the UK has sovereignty to set own standards ... the free trade with no tariffs will adapt ... in a State of permanent dialogue and negotiations with Brussels ...

    by Oui on Thu Dec 24th, 2020 at 11:53:11 AM EST
    by Oui on Thu Dec 24th, 2020 at 11:56:12 AM EST
    by Oui on Thu Dec 24th, 2020 at 01:03:32 PM EST
    Symbolic for the deal that escaped from Boris @nr.10 ⁉️

    by Oui on Thu Dec 24th, 2020 at 01:28:54 PM EST
    First thoughts on the Brexit trade deal

    5. Think it's all over?

    Just because a deal has been done, don't assume everything is settled. The UK is going to be negotiating with the EU for years to come, on a more or less constant basis.

    Resolving disputes as they arise will be a persistent focus, and a likely cause of tension. Arbitration systems will probably be tested to the limit.

    It's also worth remembering this deal is not just about trade.
    As the name suggests, it is a partnership agreement, involving all sorts of other issues such as road transport, aviation, climate change policy, and security cooperation.

    The UK will lose full access to a series of EU databases which police forces use on a constant basis - to check on things such as criminal records, fingerprints and lists of wanted or missing people.

    by Oui on Fri Dec 25th, 2020 at 08:26:11 AM EST
    Leaving out South Africa??

    A white man's world 😖

    Brexit: Middle England reacts to Boris Johnson's trade deal - 'we hoped for this a long time ago!'

    Andrew Bridgen campaigned for a hard Brexit and would have been satisfied with no deal, but he greeted news of a trade agreement with cautious optimism. Mr Bridgen said now was the time to create a new trading block with Canada, New Zealand and Australia.

    He told Sky News: "I'm hoping that in the next 12 months we are going to have a comprehensive, free trade, free movement, the ability to live, work and start a business in either Canada, New Zealand, or the UK.

    by Oui on Fri Dec 25th, 2020 at 09:31:53 AM EST
    And delusional. The last thing these countries want is free movement from the UK.
    by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 25th, 2020 at 02:58:12 PM EST
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    by Oui on Fri Dec 25th, 2020 at 10:26:32 AM EST
    by generic on Fri Dec 25th, 2020 at 03:02:28 PM EST


    Some of the adjectives that will be in circulation within the UK fishing industry today ...

    Throughout the fishing industry there is a profound sense of disillusionment, betrayal, and fury that after all the rhetoric, promises and assurances, the Government caved-in on fish.

    This was a decision taken at the highest political levels and it is important that responsibility is taken for the choices made. This is no time for spin.

    by Oui on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 09:33:38 AM EST
    Something still not clear to me is how you determine whether a boat is counted as a UK or an EU boat. Does it depend on where the boat's owner lives? The license owner? The workers on it? Where it is registered? Where it offloads its catch?
    by asdf on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 05:47:01 PM EST
    Never a simple answer is an option ...

    Half of England's quota in foreign hands | BBC News |

    £160m worth of England's fishing quota is in the hands of vessels owned by companies based in Iceland, Spain and the Netherlands, according to BBC research.

    That amounts to 130,000 tonnes of fish a year and 55% of the quota's annual value in 2019.

    Brexit deal: What's the detail on fishing?

    The deal runs to more than 1,200 pages, with a section on 'Fisheries' along with several detailed annexes.

    by Oui on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 06:33:33 PM EST
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    by Oui on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 08:57:19 PM EST
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    Where it is registered?


    by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 07:03:29 PM EST
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    Apparently boat registration is what matters:

    Page 262.

    (h) "vessel" (of a Party) means:
    (i) in the case of the United Kingdom, a fishing vessel flying the flag of the United Kingdom, registered in the United Kingdom, the Bailiwick of Guernsey, the Bailiwick of Jersey or the Isle of Man, and licensed by a UK fisheries administration;
    (ii) in the case of the Union, a fishing vessel flying the flag of a Member State and is registered in the Union.

    by asdf on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 08:08:38 PM EST
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