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June 2020

by Oui Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:19:37 AM EST

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June 2020 | 136 comments (136 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
EUROPE (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:20:50 AM EST
EUROPE: Last German POW Dies In Moscow (none / 0)

Berlin WW2 bombing survivor Saturn the alligator dies in Moscow Zoo | BBC News |

by Oui on Sat May 23rd, 2020 at 09:22:26 PM EST
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Magistrate Says EU Courts Can't Hear Cases Against Group of Finance Ministers
"The power of the group, made up of finance ministers of the 19 EU countries that use the euro currency, is 'purely political,' Advocate General Giovanni Pitruzzella wrote in his nonbinding opinion for the European Court of Justice."
by Cat on Fri May 29th, 2020 at 12:08:37 AM EST
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by generic on Fri May 29th, 2020 at 08:12:45 PM EST
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Does Finland show the way to universal basic income?
But for governments and politicians examining whether a basic income is worth it, how much the scheme might cost is still the factor they overwhelmingly focus on.

That's a point made by Professor Bernhard Neumärker, director of the Department for Economic Policy at the University of Freiburg and a supporter of universal basic income.

"When it comes to basic income, the science is a long way behind society," he says. "Politicians feel uncertain about it, so find easy arguments, such as saying everyone will become lazy or that there is no way to finance it. Then it's case closed, next topic."

But he argues increasing public pressure could force politicians to begin to think differently about the problem, particularly in the wake of the coronavirus crisis.

by Bernard on Sun May 31st, 2020 at 04:12:29 PM EST
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Re: EUROPE (none / 0)
by Oui on Sat Jun 6th, 2020 at 09:13:38 PM EST
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by Oui on Sun Jun 7th, 2020 at 09:38:02 PM EST
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by Oui on Mon Jun 15th, 2020 at 03:52:47 PM EST
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by Oui on Mon Jun 15th, 2020 at 06:15:17 PM EST
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Indro Montanelli: Statue of controversial journalist defaced in Milan - BBC
The statue of a famous Italian journalist who defended colonialism, Indro Montanelli, has been daubed with red paint and defaced with the words "racist, rapist" in Milan.

Anti-racism protesters claimed the attack and posted a video on Instagram.

They said the statue must be removed from the Milan park named after him.

Montanelli, who died in 2001, admitted having bought and married an Eritrean girl, 12, during army service in the 1930s.

He raped a 12-year-old girl. They built him a statue. - Giulia Blasi
Dismissing the experiences of women and minorities is quite literally the oldest trick in the patriarchal book. By turning the debate into one about public decorum and respect for a statue, Italy's male-dominated ruling class is avoiding the real issue: how the victims of Italy's deep-rooted racism and misogyny are systemically silenced through ridicule, shame or outright violence.

Montanelli's story sits at the intersection of politics, class, gender and race -- and it has never been more relevant than it is today, as activists across the world force uncomfortable conversations around discrimination and historical legacies of racism.

by Bernard on Tue Jun 16th, 2020 at 08:23:59 PM EST
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PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)

by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:22:09 AM EST
Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
by generic on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 12:24:17 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)

UK and EU clash over crime-fighting database in Brexit talks | The Guardian |

UK unlawfully copying data from EU police system | EU Observer - May 2018 |

The United Kingdom has been illegally copying classified personal information from a database reserved for members of the passport-free Schengen travel zone.
It has shared the information with US companies and it is demanding to keep access to the database after it leaves the EU next year

by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 02:23:16 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
by generic on Fri May 29th, 2020 at 10:42:20 PM EST
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< wipes tears > (none / 0)
archived Sat Oct 19th, 2019
by Cat on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 06:37:35 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri Jun 5th, 2020 at 03:23:32 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
by Oui on Sun Jun 7th, 2020 at 09:29:26 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (4.00 / 2)
Well, [No Shit, Sherlock!]
by Bernard on Tue Jun 9th, 2020 at 08:26:29 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri Jun 5th, 2020 at 03:29:13 PM EST
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Britain's GDP falls 20.4% in April as economy is paralysed by lockdown | The Guardian |

by Oui on Fri Jun 12th, 2020 at 10:40:26 AM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri Jun 12th, 2020 at 07:48:06 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
by Oui on Mon Jun 15th, 2020 at 04:23:49 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
But I thought the Queen, not the government, has the right to declare war. Is it likely that she would agree to declare war on another of her subjects?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jun 15th, 2020 at 04:35:38 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
by Oui on Wed Jun 17th, 2020 at 02:55:37 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
Brexit: Germany urges EU to plan for possible 'no deal 2.0' | The Guardian |

by Oui on Wed Jun 17th, 2020 at 03:58:14 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
Meanwhile, the Brexiters are still pinning their hopes on Germany, who'll take the rotating EU presidency for the second half of 2020, to let them have cake and it it. Against all evidence.
by Bernard on Wed Jun 17th, 2020 at 06:11:34 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
by Oui on Fri Jun 26th, 2020 at 03:37:49 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (4.00 / 2)
So much for eating cake...

 From the article:

After more than three years in which the German chancellor repeatedly emphasised her openness to a deal that would maintain the UK's current flows of trade with the bloc, she suggested the door leading to such a compromise had now closed.

It has apparently never crossed the British journalists' mind, even from The Guardian, that the "openness" was always linked to a "level playing field" and the UK had to agree to essential rules to keep access to the EU single market.

Now, is it the Continental side who decided they wouldn't agree to these rules?

by Bernard on Fri Jun 26th, 2020 at 05:09:09 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
The economic recession will be deep and long ...wisdom is lacking. BoJo and his Conservatives are strongly allied with Trump's America. Trade policy and goods standards will be easier with the US than with the EU. The UK assumes the ties with the EU remain strong due to Five Eyes, security, intelligence, defence and NATO ties. Capitalism crosses all borders.

Britain's talks with the biggest economy in the world will not be a walk in the park

The U.K. and U.S. will launch trade talks, but they carry high risks for British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who is under heavy pressure not to buckle to U.S. President Donald Trump's demands on food standards and health.

A deal with the United States was long viewed as a Holy Grail by British politicians who wanted to pull the U.K. out of the European Union and deepen ties with the global Anglosphere.

by Oui on Fri Jun 26th, 2020 at 06:49:55 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
Food standards are the least of the problems. Any UK-US deal will hinge on tax treatment of US megacorporations and on financial services agreements. Good luck working those out in three months in the middle of an economic and financial disaster.
by asdf on Thu Jul 2nd, 2020 at 04:58:30 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 1)
Trump is going to be too busy trying to get re-elected to conduct a trade negotiation.  

Republicans in Congress are too busy trying to save their asses to approve any trade treaty.

Democrats in Congress don't want to give Trump any positive media so they will stall any trade agreement in the House.

So:  forget it.  Nothing will happen until 2021.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Jul 6th, 2020 at 03:54:19 PM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
BoJo hands Dominic Cummings free reigns in destruction of Whitehall ... secrecy will be a merit. Public scrutiny and oversight gone out the window ...

by Oui on Mon Jun 29th, 2020 at 11:08:30 AM EST
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Re: PFEFFLE'S EXIT (none / 0)
by Oui on Tue Jul 7th, 2020 at 09:37:04 AM EST
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by Oui on Mon Jun 29th, 2020 at 11:11:50 AM EST
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by Oui on Sat Jul 4th, 2020 at 06:14:59 AM EST
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TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)


by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:25:04 AM EST
Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 1)
by generic on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 12:25:59 PM EST
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Yep!

Joe Biden Promised to Bring Stability Across Syraq (2007)   by Oui @BooMan on Feb. 14, 2016

A failed VP for 8 years as arms sales to Arab States peaked. Democrats making the same mistakes as four years ago. Biden is so 20th Century in mindset and policy. America deserves better ... time to clean house.

Anthony Blinken, all the "qualities" of Madeleine Albright and Zbigniew Brzezinski put together - HORROR!

Continuing the decades long slide from Social-Democracy and Labour into the camp of far-right, Islamophobia and Nationalism. Biden thinks he'll survive the onslaught by the Tea Party Republicans under president Trump without the Progressive Movement of Bernie Sanders? A fatal flaw in DNC short-term policy, failing activism in a society in upheaval.

War On BDS, Progressive Left Under Attack

by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 01:44:10 PM EST
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There's also this (4.00 / 2)

At this point the best play for the democrats would be the Johnson gambit: Pretend your candidate caught the Rona and hide him in a fridge.
by generic on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 02:08:09 PM EST
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Biden Shocks the Jewish Community (none / 0)
by Oui on Sat May 23rd, 2020 at 09:30:33 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 1)
Biden is going to be a continuation of neo-liberal domination of US foreign and domestic policies.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 04:37:33 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (4.00 / 2)
What. A. Surprise.
by asdf on Thu Jul 2nd, 2020 at 04:59:54 PM EST
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Apparently the dam was the responsibility of a HOA (none / 1)
by generic on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 12:35:10 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (4.00 / 2)
Text-Only NPR.org : Scientists Warn CDC Testing Data Could Create Misleading Picture Of Pandemic

In addition, combining antibody testing with diagnostic testing could reduce the number of tests that appear to be producing positive results, lowering the overall "positivity rate." That's another important benchmark. The World Health Organization has recommended a positivity rate of 10% or less as a signal of whether enough testing is taking place.

"I suspect it will artificially lower the percent positive," wrote Caitlin Rivers, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, in another email to NPR about the CDC testing data.

by generic on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 03:28:19 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 1)

Trump claims he will "override the governors" who closed churches in the pandemic | Vox News |

Trump labeled churches and other houses of worship as "essential", calls on them to reopen | AP News |

by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 09:32:15 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)
Trump absolutely requires the ignorant hick white Evangelical vote and them folks want their weekly bout of religious hysteria.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 04:40:15 PM EST
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TRUMP'S USA: Jarring Number of 100,000 US Deat (none / 0)

    As the national death toll from COVID-19 approaches the stunning 100,000 milestone, The New York Times is devoting its entire Sunday May 24 front page to a list - a partial list - of the dead.

New York Times Publishes Names of People Who Died of COVID-19 on Entire Front Page | Newsweek |

Close relationship how people and capitalism treat planet Earth.

Every year, dirty air still brings more than 100,000 American lives to a premature death. Depleting resources.

Choked: The Age of Air Pollution and the Fight for a Cleaner Future

by Oui on Sun May 24th, 2020 at 06:31:35 AM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 1)

Nursing homes might also have played a major role in the Italian outbreak in Bergamon, though I have only heard rumors.

by generic on Wed May 27th, 2020 at 12:38:25 AM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 1)
You say that like it's a bad thing
by Bernard on Wed May 27th, 2020 at 06:37:16 AM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 1)
by generic on Wed May 27th, 2020 at 02:40:08 PM EST
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Certainly seems like a pattern (none / 1)
in the worst outbreaks
by generic on Thu May 28th, 2020 at 07:17:24 PM EST
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The oil glut is solved (none / 1)
FDA Announces Temporary Flexibility Policy Regarding Certain Labeling Requirements for Foods for Humans During COVID-19 Pandemic | FDA
First, the FDA is providing flexibility for manufacturers to make minor formulation changes in certain circumstances without making conforming label changes, such as making a change to product ingredients, without updating the ingredient list on the packaged food when such a minor change is made. For purposes of this guidance, minor formulation changes should be consistent with the general factors listed below, as appropriate:
by generic on Wed May 27th, 2020 at 10:18:39 AM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)
At last! Twitter adds ALERT to Trump's tweets as FAKE NEWS. Wishing the American folks would follow and throw the bum OUT! 😎

Trump finally admits that "fake news" just means news he doesn't like | Vox News - May 9, 2018 |

President Trump's Description of What's 'Fake' Is Expanding | NPR - Sept. 2, 2018 |

Twitter Is Finally Fact-Checking Trump's Tweets | Vanity Fair |

The flagged tweets--in which Trump falsely claims "there is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent"--are now marked with a label alerting users to "Get the facts about mail-in ballots." When users click on the link, it takes them to a Twitter Moments page, which links to articles and tweets from journalists and experts that debunk Trump's claims. The president's statements about voter fraud "are unsubstantiated ...

by Oui on Wed May 27th, 2020 at 11:11:49 AM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)
Election shaping to be a disaster for the GOP.

It is as certain as anything can be this far away that Trump will not be re-elected.  

It is looking increasingly likely the Senate will flip to the D column.

Every sane political commentator is predicting a D hold of the House.

The bottom line is the GOP lost white suburban women in 2018 and they aren't coming back.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 04:43:35 PM EST
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The situation here is still pretty psychotic. (none / 0)

WATCH: Treasury Secretary Mnuchin says Americans may receive debit cards for refunds
$239B, 141M receipts, 114M direct deposits, 27M checks, and now "debit" (electronic benefit transfer, EBT) cards. All the convenience of a credit card w/o the STIGMA of transfer payment or ATM fees?
Don't throw away those Visa debit cards: They have stimulus cash
Jacké Dollar said she immediately cut up the Visa debit card shortly after she opened the envelope on Tuesday. She has never had a debit card, never wanted one. So when she got this one in the mail, she just cut it up.
archived Democrats balk at $1,200 rebate checks in stimulus plan
by Cat on Thu May 28th, 2020 at 01:53:00 AM EST
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Trump's USA: Not Hong Kong (none / 0)
National Guard support requested by city to combat riots in south Minneapolis

Multiple fires burn overnight following violence and looting in Minneapolis

by Oui on Thu May 28th, 2020 at 02:14:10 PM EST
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Re: Trump's USA: Not Hong Kong (4.00 / 3)
The Onion:  Protestors Criticized For Looting Businesses Without Forming Private Equity Firm First.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri May 29th, 2020 at 04:09:22 PM EST
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Re: Trump's USA: Not Hong Kong (none / 0)
by Cat on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 11:50:06 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)

by generic on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 05:34:33 PM EST
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The economy is saved (none / 1)

by generic on Fri Jun 5th, 2020 at 09:01:09 PM EST
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Just look at it (none / 0)
by generic on Fri Jun 5th, 2020 at 11:43:27 PM EST
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Re: Just look at it (none / 1)
by generic on Sat Jun 6th, 2020 at 05:56:25 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)
'The Damage Is Done': Judge Slams John Bolton, but Refuses to Block Book

A Washington federal judge on Saturday admonished John Bolton for moving ahead with his memoir without final authorization from the Trump administration, but the court refused to issue any order to restrain further distribution of the book, which has been sent to bookstores and media outlets around the country and world.

John Bolton: judge declines to block tell-all Trump book | The Guardian |

by Oui on Sat Jun 20th, 2020 at 04:20:12 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)
Fired Or Not, Berman On Way Out

by Oui on Sat Jun 20th, 2020 at 09:21:24 PM EST
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U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman agrees to step down after Trump fires him, House Democrats launch probe | NBC News |

by Oui on Sun Jun 21st, 2020 at 03:04:14 AM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)
by Oui on Mon Jun 29th, 2020 at 02:41:56 PM EST
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COVID and SCOTUS: Trump Lacks Immunity (none / 0)

by Oui on Thu Jul 9th, 2020 at 04:19:27 PM EST
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Re: TRUMP'S USA (none / 0)
by Oui on Sat Jul 11th, 2020 at 01:00:31 AM EST
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Roger Stone: five things to know about Trump's controversial ally | The Guardian |
by Oui on Sat Jul 11th, 2020 at 01:30:05 AM EST
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The Teflon President w/o Immunity? (none / 0)

From my earlier diary ...

Seychelles Back-channel Leads to Abu Dhabi

by Oui on Sat Jul 11th, 2020 at 01:41:56 AM EST
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Trump's 2020 USPS appointment could corrupt a key institution ahead of Election Day | NBC News |

Cronyism in high government positions has been a trademark of the Trump administration, but the selection of Republican mega-donor and Trump ally Louis DeJoy to lead the U.S. Postal Service threatens to corrupt one of America's most trusted institutions at a key moment.

by Oui on Sun Jul 19th, 2020 at 11:46:30 PM EST
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Junseok Chae: Missing Arizona Professor Believed to Be Homicide Victim

Missing ASU professor's remains found in Surprise landfill; 2 teens arrested in murder | AZ Central |

by Oui on Sat Jul 25th, 2020 at 08:18:56 PM EST
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WORLD (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:25:46 AM EST
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Death Sentence Khashoggi Killers to be Commuted?

Sons of murdered Saudi journalist Khashoggi 'forgive' killers | Dawn - Pakistan |

Khashoggi -- a royal family insider turned critic -- was killed and dismembered at the kingdom's consulate in Istanbul in October 2018, in a case that tarnished the reputation of de facto ruler Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

His family's pardon could spare the lives of five unnamed people sentenced to death over the murder in a December court ruling that exonerated two top aides to the crown prince.

"On this holy night of this blessed month (of Ramadan)... we the sons of martyr Jamal Khashoggi announce we forgive and pardon those who killed our father," the Washington Post columnist's son Salah Khashoggi said on Twitter.

Saudi authorities did not immediately comment on the legal ramifications of the announcement from Salah, who resides in the kingdom and has denied reports of a financial settlement with the government.

"What this essentially means is that the killers will avoid capital punishment since that is a right the family (under sharia law) has to forgive," Ali Shihabi, a Saudi author and analyst close to the government said on Twitter.

○ Khashoggi's sons forgive Saudi killers, sparing 5 execution | Hürriyet Daily News |

by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 07:36:03 PM EST
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Eid al-Fitr: Khashoggi Killers Escape Execution (none / 1)

Jamal Khashoggi's son Salah says family 'forgives' killers | Al Jazeera |

In the statement, posted on Friday, Salah Khashoggi said his family pardons those who took the reporter's life in 2018 when he visited Saudi Arabia's consulate in Istanbul.

"In this blessed night of the blessed month (of Ramadan) we remember God's saying: If a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah."

"Therefore, we the sons of the Martyr Jamal Khashoggi announce that we pardon those who killed our father, seeking reward God almighty" he added.

A Parody of Justice

Trump thanks Saudis on Twitter after absolving prince of Khashoggi killing | Chicago Tribune - Nov. 21, 2018 |

○ Khashoggi sons' pardon is step towards killers' release, says UN investigator | The Guardian |

by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 07:54:11 PM EST
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Eid al-Fitr: Khashoggi Killers Escape Execution (none / 1)
by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 07:55:25 PM EST
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Khashoggi Killers Escape Execution (none / 1)
The War Nerd: How Many Dead Yemeni Nobodies Does It Take To Equal 1 WaPo Contributor?
But the thing is, that wasn't the bloodiest mess MbS and the Kingdom were involved in. And Khashoggi wasn't the only maimed body left in the wake of MbS's "reform" policies.

Not by a loooooong shot. There was this other thing going on: The Saudi-led invasion and blockade of NW Yemen, the mostly Shia highland provinces of Yemen. That bloody massacre started in March 2015, and it's been killing untold (and I do mean "untold") hundreds of thousands since then.

How many people have died horrible deaths in Yemen since 2015? The official sources like WaPo and NYT and BBC used to fix on a static figure: 10,000 dead.

Everyone laughed at that one. Every knew it had to be much, much higher, but that just annoyed our news sources of record. So they tried fudging the numbers with the face-saving formula "at least" 10,000, but even buzzards sometimes gag, and people got sick of hearing such an obvious callous lie.

So by now, how many Yemeni Shia nobodies are dead? How many inconvenient corpses, disproportionately children (because they're always the first to die in a famine) are buried, untold, in that rocky ground?

Nobody even tries very hard to guess anymore, because nobody in the Western media is interested.

by Bernard on Sat Jun 13th, 2020 at 04:59:16 PM EST
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Re: WORLD (none / 0)
Sounds like somebody made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
by rifek on Sun May 31st, 2020 at 08:20:53 PM EST
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Re: WORLD (4.00 / 2)
by Cat on Sat May 23rd, 2020 at 02:01:29 AM EST
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by Cat on Sun May 24th, 2020 at 02:34:08 AM EST
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First Iranian fuel tanker arrives in Venezuela, despite US criticism blockade
by Cat on Mon May 25th, 2020 at 03:25:32 PM EST
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by Cat on Tue May 26th, 2020 at 10:41:47 PM EST
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Venezuela hopes to have gold frozen by Britain returned in order to buy food and medical supplies amid Covid-19 pandemic
The Venezuelan central bank's governor said on Wednesday that, according to the agreement, the funds from the gold sale [?] will be directly transferred to the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) to ensure it is not used for other purposes. However, he did not reveal how much gold the Bank of England is going to sell [?].
ransome
by Cat on Thu May 28th, 2020 at 05:58:46 PM EST
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Re: WORLD (none / 0)

archived Les Crises | Plan du dossier "UkraineGate" - Des faits qui dérangent (EN, RU)
by Cat on Sun May 24th, 2020 at 10:47:50 PM EST
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by Oui on Thu May 28th, 2020 at 12:20:39 PM EST
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Huawei CFO Meng loses key court fight against extradition to United States
They accuse her of ["]bank fraud["] for misleading HSBC about Huawei's relationship with a company operating in Iran, putting HSBC at risk of fines and penalties for breaking U.S. sanctions on Tehran.
this.empowerment(Holmes)
Meng's lawyers argued the case should be thrown out because Canada did not have sanctions against Iran.

But British Columbia's Superior Court Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes disagreed, ruling the legal standard of double criminality [?] had been met.

worldwide organized crime
"Ms. Meng's approach ... would seriously limit Canada's ability to fulfill its international obligations in the extradition context for fraud and other economic crimes," Holmes said.
[...]
The U.S. Department of Justice thanked Canada for its continued assistance. Canada's justice ministry said its lawyers were committed to moving ahead as fast as possible.
free HK SAR
by Cat on Thu May 28th, 2020 at 01:23:09 PM EST
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Re: WORLD (none / 0)
Citizenship law: Is India using COVID-19 emergency to arrest protesters?
Indian police have arrested two student activists, who in February participated in mass demonstrations against a controversial citizenship act. Activists say the law discriminates against the country's Muslim minority.

Devangana Kalita and Natasha Narwal, who are part of the Pinjra Tod women's rights initiative, were arrested by police on May 23. The court, however, granted them bail, rejecting a police request for the women's detention.

The judge noted that Kalita and Narwal only participated in demonstrations; they did not commit any acts of violence.

But they were re-arrested a day after their release. A special investigation team booked them under charges of murder, attempted murder, rioting and criminal conspiracy.

by Bernard on Thu May 28th, 2020 at 08:40:27 PM EST
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Excess deaths in the FT (none / 1)
by generic on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 05:41:19 PM EST
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Re: Excess deaths in the FT (none / 1)
But they are still talking about the UK as though it was one, rather than four, nations. According to The National
WITHOUT the devolved nations considered, England has the worst coronavirus mortality rate in the world according to a Financial Times data visualisation journalist.

John Burn-Murdoch was speaking to Sky News earlier today and explained that data from March to May shows England's coronavirus death rate has been the worst of any country that data is available for.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 05:46:44 PM EST
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Re: Excess deaths in the FT (none / 1)
But actually looking at the data, the excess deaths in the US are about half of the counted Corona dead? What's up with that?
by generic on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 05:48:26 PM EST
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Re: Excess deaths in the FT (none / 1)
Fewer dead from traffic accidents, air pollution, suicide etc? I don't have the source, but I remember Italian statistics showing lots of excess deaths in the North, but -9% excess deaths in Naples and Palermo, which were relatively COVD free.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 05:52:27 PM EST
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Re: Excess deaths in the FT (none / 0)
That certainly happens and the US collapse of employment is truly massive. But then, they state that their data has been updated until the 28th, but I don't see that they give information of when the country data was updated. Maybe they are just a week or two old?
by generic on Sat May 30th, 2020 at 06:14:35 PM EST
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Re: WORLD (none / 0)
European states vow to stay in Open Skies Treaty despite US exit | Defense News |

In a joint statement, the foreign ministries of Belgium, the Czech Republic, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Spain and Sweden said the pact "is a crucial element of the confidence-building framework that was created over the past decades in order to improve transparency and security across the Euro-Atlantic area."

"We will continue to implement the Open Skies Treaty, which has a clear added value for our conventional arms control architecture and cooperative security.

NATO allies alarmed, annoyed by US Open Skies exit | DW|

by Oui on Thu Jun 4th, 2020 at 07:05:53 AM EST
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He's done (none / 1)
by generic on Sat Jun 6th, 2020 at 08:28:12 PM EST
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Re: WORLD (none / 1)
India, China troops clash at Himalayan border, 'casualties on both sides' - Reuters India
NEW DELHI/SRINAGAR (Reuters) - India's army said on Tuesday 20 of its soldiers had been killed in clashes with Chinese troops at a disputed border site, in a major escalation of a weeks-long standoff between the two Asian giants in the western Himalayas.

China's foreign ministry confirmed there had been a "violent physical confrontation" on Monday in the border area. It made no mention of casualties but India's foreign ministry said there had been casualties on both sides.

India-China clash: 20 Indian troops killed in Ladakh fighting
India's external affairs ministry accused China of breaking an agreement struck the previous week to respect the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the Galwan Valley.

BBC diplomatic correspondent James Robbins says violence between two armies high up in the Himalayas is very serious, and pressure will grow on the two nuclear powers not to allow a slide into full-scale conflict.
[...]

China did not confirm any casualties, but accused India in turn of crossing the border onto the Chinese side.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said India had crossed the border twice on Monday, "provoking and attacking Chinese personnel, resulting in serious physical confrontation between border forces on the two sides", AFP news agency reported.

by Bernard on Tue Jun 16th, 2020 at 08:46:25 PM EST
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Re: WORLD (none / 0)
by Oui on Wed Jun 24th, 2020 at 05:59:18 AM EST
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Re: WORLD (none / 1)
pro skillz promoted by WHO.int twitter account

dashboard, 6 "waves" not 2

transitional endemic disease watch (TEDW): Recalling Jan 2020 comparison to worldwide deaths attributed to "Spanish flu," am idly wondering, at this rate, how long for world to obtain 50M-60M attributed to COVID-19 or "with COVID-19" as the preppers say.

(July 5 standard issue)

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Jul 5th, 2020 at 07:41:20 PM EST
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Living Off The Planet (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:26:27 AM EST
Re: Living Off The Planet (none / 1)
by generic on Tue Jun 9th, 2020 at 09:38:25 AM EST
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Living On The Planet (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:27:07 AM EST
Re: Living On The Planet (none / 0)
A Rant

Author of No Mercy, No Malice.

At What Point Does Malfeasance Become Fraud?': NYU Biz-School Professor Scott Galloway on WeWork

by Oui on Tue May 26th, 2020 at 05:57:45 AM EST
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On This Date (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:27:46 AM EST
Re: On This Date (none / 0)

Leiden 400 commemorates the journey of the Pilgrim Fathers | Dutch News |

by Oui on Sun May 31st, 2020 at 08:08:55 PM EST
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Re: On This Date (none / 0)
North Korea says it sees no point in maintaining Kim-Trump ties | Al Jazeera |

Ri said in retrospect that the Trump administration appeared to have been focusing only on scoring political points while seeking to isolate and suffocate North Korea, and threatening it with preemptive nuclear strikes and regime change.

"Never again will we provide the US chief executive with another package to be used for achievements without receiving any returns," he said. "Nothing is more hypocritical than an empty promise."

by Oui on Fri Jun 12th, 2020 at 07:41:44 AM EST
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Re: On This Date (none / 1)
While Anglo-American R2P defectors' free speech warns of DPRK retaliation,
Blue House speaks out against propaganda balloon launches
by Cat on Sat Jun 13th, 2020 at 07:53:13 PM EST
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Re: Not On This Date (none / 0)
Geez ... did I miss something??

So important people of the Empire ...

Where did Winston go??

So depressing ...
South Africa apartheid | colonization | concentration camps | Mesopotamia chemical warfare | history WWII |

by Oui on Sat Jun 13th, 2020 at 10:46:25 AM EST
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Re: On This Date (none / 0)
by Oui on Sun Jun 14th, 2020 at 06:56:23 PM EST
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People and Klatsch (none / 0)
by Oui on Fri May 22nd, 2020 at 08:28:57 AM EST
Re: People and Klatsch (none / 1)
Wow, a new Newsroom!
by Zwackus on Mon May 25th, 2020 at 01:23:22 AM EST
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Re: People and Klatsch (none / 1)
Scary isn't it! 🎭

Open space ... not open skies what Trump defies ...

by Oui on Mon May 25th, 2020 at 04:26:56 AM EST
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Re: People and Klatsch (none / 0)
Nice! Someone noticed ... 😉
by Oui on Mon May 25th, 2020 at 04:28:18 AM EST
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No editors? No problem. (none / 1)
by Cat on Tue May 26th, 2020 at 06:05:16 PM EST
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Re: People and Klatsch (none / 1)
by generic on Sun May 31st, 2020 at 10:55:48 PM EST
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A Slam Dunk! (none / 0)

by Oui on Mon Jun 1st, 2020 at 05:55:55 PM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular diseas AND COVID? (none / 1)
Hold my beer, while I sort these tables.

Governments and WHO changed Covid-19 policy based on suspect data from tiny US company

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Jun 3rd, 2020 at 05:32:58 PM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (none / 0)
Ask your doctor for Remdesivir!

< wipes tears >

by Cat on Thu Jun 4th, 2020 at 07:35:04 PM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (none / 0)
FX-arbitrage Phase
EU regulator recommends approving remdesivir as first Covid-19 treatment
The price of the drug in the region is not yet known. In the United States, it could be priced up to $5,080 (€4,532) per course, while Indian generic drugmakers will sell the treatment between 5,000 rupees to 6,000 rupees (€59-€71).

The EMA endorsement, which comes just weeks after a speedy review, means physicians can prescribe the Gilead drug, to be branded Veklury, in Europe once approved by the European Commission, which usually follows CHMP recommendations.

archived Thu May 7th, 2020 MSRP

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Jun 27th, 2020 at 05:07:29 AM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (none / 1)
Gilead remdesivir fire sale: "five-day treatment course at $2,340 per patient"
while supplies last

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Jun 29th, 2020 at 03:29:38 PM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (4.00 / 3)
eBay "dutch auction", 325,600 minutes remaining
[emphasis added] Recall: USAMRIID (RDV; GS-5734); Gilead license "for the treatment of Ebola"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Jun 29th, 2020 at 09:52:28 PM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (none / 1)
Coup de grâce
The $2,300 price of a course of remdesivir may sound high - and is compared with the basic cost of manufacturing the stuff - but is actually fairly restrained. ...
< wipes tears >
Ahead of November's presidential election, the $94 billion pharma group's restraint may help it accumulate political capital.
wut

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Jun 30th, 2020 at 02:47:48 AM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (none / 1)
scarce, precious fluids
The U.S. has bought nearly the entire global [!] supply of the antiviral drug remdesivir, the only treatment licensed to treat COVID-19, as the nation continues to experience surging cases of coronavirus.
[...]
The Trump administration announced this week the U.S. struck an agreement with Gilead to secure more than 500,000 treatment courses of the drug for American hospitals [!] through September.
[...]
Ohid Yaqub, a senior lecturer at the University of Sussex, called it disappointing news.

"It so clearly signals an unwillingness to cooperate with other countries and the chilling effect this has on international agreements about intellectual property rights," Yaqub said, according to the Associated Press [!].

< wipes tears >
[Andrew Hill, senior visiting research fellow at Liverpool University] told The Guardian that the UK could get access to remdesivir through a compulsory license, which overrides the intellectual property rights of the company. This would allow the UK to purchase from generic companies in Bangladesh or India where Gilead's patent is not recognized.
Gilead, June 29 price sheet
In the developing world, where healthcare resources, infrastructure and economics are so different, we have entered into agreements with generic manufacturers to deliver treatment at a substantially lower cost.
Mystery of Value Added to 79 rupees per "vial"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Jul 1st, 2020 at 06:36:46 PM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (none / 0)
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with COVID-19
Setting
The Henry Ford Health System (HFHS) in Southeast Michigan: large six hospital integrated health system; the largest of hospitals is an 802-bed quaternary academic teaching hospital in urban Detroit, Michigan.

Participants
Consecutive patients hospitalized with a COVID-related admission in the health system from March 10,2020 to May 2,2020 were included. Only the first admission was included for patients with multiple admissions. All patients evaluated were 18 years of age and older and were treated as inpatients for at least 48 hours unless expired within 24 hours.

Exposure
Receipt of hydroxychloroquine alone, hydroxychloroquine in combination with azithromycin, azithromycin alone, or neither.

Main Outcome
The primary outcome was in-hospital mortality.

Results
Of 2,541 patients, with a median total hospitalization time of 6 days (IQR: 4-10 days), median age was 64 years (IQR:53-76 years), 51% male, 56% African American, with median time to follow-up of 28.5 days (IQR:3-53). Overall in-hospital mortality was 18.1% (95% CI:16.6%-19.7%); by treatment: hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin, 157/783 (20.1% [95% CI: 17.3%-23.0%]), hydroxychloroquine alone, 162/1202 (13.5% [95% CI: 11.6%-15.5%]), azithromycin alone, 33/147 (22.4% [95% CI: 16.0%-30.1%]), and neither drug, 108/409 (26.4% [95% CI: 22.2%-31.0%])​. Primary cause of mortality was respiratory failure (88%);
[...]
Primary cause of mortality in the 460 patients was: 88% respiratory failure, 4% cardiac arrest (with mean QTc interval from last ECG reading 471 ms), 8% other cardiopulmonary arrest and multi-organ failure. No patient had documented torsades de pointes. ...



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 at 09:54:45 PM EST
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Afflicted with cardiovascular disease AND COVID? (none / 0)
Carsyn Leigh Davis
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement detailed the last two weeks of Carsyn's life in a public Medical Examiner's report.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Jul 6th, 2020 at 06:49:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
How many Democrats does she plan to kill? (none / 1)
Forward
A New York City lawmaker told a Jewish audience that she knows what it was like for Israeli soldiers to fight in the Six Day War because she's "a Republican in New York City."
Then
When you think about the small army at the time that Israel had and that they were confronted with five armies -- I mean, I'm a Republican in New York City so I can kind of understand what they may have been going through or thinking," Malliotakis said, according to the report, which included a link to the recorded Zoom call.
THe five arny myth (consisting much fewer soldiers) refers to the war of independence, not the1967 war/
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun May 24th, 2020 at 07:59:44 PM EST
Re: How many Democrats does she plan to kill? (none / 0)
The standard Rethuglican play: Wave the "Support Our Troops" flag after serving in the First Chickenhawk Brigade because of your bone spurs and while screwing actual veterans every chance you get.
by rifek on Sun May 31st, 2020 at 08:12:39 PM EST
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The Grauniad (none / 1)
Don't they have editors any more?
Brazil's embattled president, Jair Bolsonaro, has come under further pressure after his political idol Donald Trump imposed an travel ban on non-US citizens coming the South American country in response soaring number of Brazilian coronavirus cases.

The US announced the measure on Sunday as the number of recorded cases in Brazil rose to more than 363,000 and the death toll nearly 23,000.

Only the US now has more confirmed infections than Brazil where Bolsonaro has faced severe criticism for flouting social media guidelines and losing two health ministers in less than a month.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon May 25th, 2020 at 05:49:45 PM EST
Chinese COVID tests don't work in Israel (none / 0)
Times of Israel
However, the Kan public broadcaster cited officials in all of the country's health maintenance organizations (HMOs) as saying the machines were not being used since they are technically ill-adapted for use in Israel.

"The machine's technology is more manual, it is more suited for use in China, not for Israel," the report said, without elaborating.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jun 1st, 2020 at 04:38:03 PM EST
Adleson and Trumo (none / 1)
Casino.org
Las Vegas Sands Chairman Sheldon Adelson Told President Trump That China Trade War Could Cost Him Reelection

Las Vegas Sands (NYSE:LVS) chairman and CEO Sheldon Adelson reportedly cautioned President Donald Trump that escalating the trade war with China could be detrimental to the US economy and hinder the president's 2020 reelection bid.

[...]

Adelson's motivations for wanting cooler heads to prevail in the US/China trade war are clear. Las Vegas Sands operates five casinos in Macau, the lone Chinese territory where gambling is legal. Its stock is highly correlated to headlines related to the Special Administrative Region (SAR). Shares of LVS slid nearly 3% last month.

LVS has had a Macau footprint since 2002, and is now one of the peninsula's dominant operators. The company generated nearly two-thirds of its 2018 revenue in Macau. US gaming companies in Macau, including Sands, face renewals of their licenses in 2022.

While analysts believe those permits will be renewed, LVS isn't taking any chances, pledging to spend $2.2 billion to renovate its venues there and aid in the SAR's quest to increase its convention and non-gaming tourism industries.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jun 1st, 2020 at 04:57:02 PM EST
Matlock for Senat (Kansas) (none / 0)
Matlockforsenate
Republican Socialism is the movement to revive our dying communities, both urban and rural, by using Federal dollars to fund local, community-driven projects, particularly in low-income areas. It is a movement to unite Kansans who are tired of the status quo. It is about the coalition between good-neighbor Republicans and common-sense Socialists. Both coalitions want to pitch in, take care of each other, and have meaningful work that enriches our lives, rather than jobs with long hours and low wages to further enrich billionaires.

The systemic solutions offered by Socialists are meant to benefit those on the losing end of the ever-widening economic gap. These solutions will benefit Kansans, but only if we ensure the local administration of these solutions that Republicans so often emphasize. We need Federal money flowing into low-income areas and placed into the hands of local people who can make informed decisions based on their intimate knowledge of their communities and priorities.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Jun 5th, 2020 at 05:52:07 PM EST
The situation here is still pretty psychotic. (none / 0)


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Jun 27th, 2020 at 04:49:41 AM EST
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Google does evil (none / 0)
USA Today
Washington D.C.'s mayor renamed a street near the White House "Black Lives Matter Plaza" Friday and directed city crews to paint a huge mural to honor protesters who have turned out in the nation's capital to demand an end to police brutality.
On Google Maps, it's still called 16th St NW. On OpenMaps, it's Black Lives Matter Plaza.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Jun 5th, 2020 at 06:10:44 PM EST
India overtakes Italy (none / 1)
The number of COVID cases listed in the SZ now have India (236.060) ahead of Italy (234.531). Other than Spain, the leading countries are now led by Trump, Bolsonaro, Putin, Johnson, and Modi. Notice a pattern? (How many Brits would still be alive if Corbyn had won?)
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Jun 5th, 2020 at 07:56:35 PM EST
UK to allow tourists from the USSR and the GDR (none / 0)
Zeitungblatt
Derweil berichten erste Touristen, dass das von allen einreisenden verlangte Formular vom chronisch unterbesetzten Grenzschutz gar nicht überprüft werde. Als Herkunftsland können Reisende die UdSSR, die DDR oder Jugoslawien angeben: Staaten, die seit 30 Jahren nicht mehr existieren. Sebastian Borger aus London
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Jun 16th, 2020 at 03:50:48 PM EST
Huawei (none / 0)
Seems like the UK has found a sound reason to keep Huawei out of their 5G infrastructure, namely, that the US wants it.

Preview of Boris's approach to upcoming UK-US trade agreements?

by asdf on Sun Jul 5th, 2020 at 07:04:50 PM EST
Re: Huawei (none / 0)
The only people who care about 5G are the mobile phone companies who want to force people to ditch their perfectly adequate old mobiles for new ones.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Mon Jul 6th, 2020 at 03:57:40 PM EST
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Re: Huawei (none / 0)
Well, that plus people like me who are struggling to keep a decade-old iPhone working until the new 5G models come out, and the IoT companies who are depending on 5G for their systems to work...

Plus anybody who has had it up to here with the cable Internet providers...

by asdf on Mon Jul 6th, 2020 at 11:43:42 PM EST
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