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England surrenders to Covid

by IdiotSavant Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 02:54:25 AM EST

Boris Johnson is officially surrendering England to Covid:

Boris Johnson will revoke hundreds of Covid regulations and make England the most unrestricted society in Europe from 19 July despite saying new cases could soar to 50,000 a day before masks and social distancing are ditched.

In a sign the government may reimpose restrictions this autumn, the prime minister warned the public against going "de-mob happy", however. He said opening up - including the lifting of all limits on sports events and nightclubs - would be safest during the school summer holidays and did not say the changes would be irreversible.

Johnson told a Downing Street press conference: "We must be honest with ourselves that if we can't reopen our society in the next few weeks, when we will be helped by the arrival of summer and by the school holidays, we must ask ourselves: when will we be able to return to normal?"

And apparently, you get to "normal", when no-one died of Covid, by having masses and masses of people die of Covid. The sociopathic toffocracy in action!

Frontpaged - Bernard


There's more on what this means from Umair Haque. Basicly: mass-death and breeding new variants to threaten everybody else. Totally "normal", all right.

I've said "England" in the title, because public health is devolved, and Wales and Scotland are still in team "lets not all die, please". But I'm not sure how long that will be sustainable with a giant petri-dish nextdoor. There's obvious interesting questions on the effects on the independence movements in each, especially if England spreads its plague to unwilling neighbours (a useful data-point here: Samoa's campaign for independence from NZ was in-part driven by the colonial power giving them the flu in 1918 and killing 20% of the population).

There's also interesting questions for what it means for relations with (and movement to) the EU. And for food supply: does Boris Johnson really think Polish truck drivers are going to risk their lives bringing food to England? (of course he does, because he can't imagine people not doing what he wants).

But I guess the question of interest to a lot of readers here is what it means for Ireland. After all, if England goes petri-dish, then avoiding Covid means a hard border somewhere. Is Northern Ireland willing to jump into the disease pool just because England does too? Or will they show some sanity, protect themselves, and put that border in the Irish Sea after all?

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Yeah .... holidays in Spain ... happy hour in bars and all night festivals ... let's have fun and just be very stupid!

Netherlands could hear about new coronavirus measures tomorrow | NL Times |

Thus far, nearly 17.3 million vaccine doses have been given, with 78.1 percent of the adult public having received at least one vaccine shot, and at least 46.8 percent considered fully vaccinated.

In the UK vaccinations are provided based on a percentage of the adult population. This is about 2/3 of the total population. The Delta variant spreads in the groups of non-vaxxers and young people. Thus the "let her rip" mentality has now taken hold. Either you get a jab, preferably two for max protection, or you will get it through herd spread.

The Dutch are the laboratory or Petri dish for the Delta variant and a few weeks ahead of Boris Johnson and his set date in stone of July 19th. Boris and Mark as the sciences of Oxford have been in step with one another from early March 2020.

Soon the Netherlands will have switched from green to amber to red in a matter of 14 days. Not participating in this madness are the owners of nightclubs and multiple day festivals ... to protect their own and employees who have been infected as well when the regulations were lifted end of June.

Six in ten Dutch think Covid-19 measures were abolished too soon

by Oui on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 09:26:24 AM EST
The Delta variant is on the move.

23.4% of the world has received a COVID vaccine. See how your country is doing | Fortune |

Among the countries with the highest percentage of vaccinated residents are Iceland (75.9%), Canada (68%), the U.K. (65.7%), Chile (65.5%), Uruguay (64.7), and Israel (64.5%). [Most EU Nations are well above 50%. Pop. Netherlands is 17.5 million, stats RIVM vaccination doses as of yesterday 17.3 Million 1st and 2nd jabs combined. 10.9 Million have received at least one jab. I'm just a simple mind, seems that's closer to 85% of age 18 and older. 😊

Rate of vaccinations is well over 1.2 million jabs each week ... year of birth 2007 are now eligible for an appointment.

by Oui on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 09:28:42 AM EST
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6 in 10 Dutch are correct.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 05:21:19 PM EST
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Appears SARS CoV-2 is beating them all!

by Oui on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 09:31:13 AM EST
Several companies have a COVID-19 breathalyzer for Real Time testing.  Any one of them could be used at the Scottish border or pre-boarding passengers on ferries to Northern Ireland.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 05:28:42 PM EST
by Bernard on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 06:28:08 PM EST
Don't think that Macron wouldn't do it again:

France's Macron threatened UK entry ban without more stringent measures: report - March 22, 2020

PARIS (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron threatened to close France's border with Britain on Friday if Prime Minister Boris Johnson failed to take more stringent measures to contain the coronavirus outbreak, a French newspaper reported.

On Friday evening, Johnson ordered pubs, restaurants, theaters, cinemas and gyms to shut their doors to slow the accelerating spread of the disease, days after other European countries put their citizens on lockdown.

French newspaper Liberation, citing sources in Macron's office, said Johnson's decision came after the French leader gave him an ultimatum on Friday morning, threatening an entry ban on any traveler from the UK if there were no new measures.

"We had to clearly threaten him to make him finally budge," the report quoted an Elysee official as saying.

Couple of weeks later:

by Bernard on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 06:45:31 PM EST
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The first time ever in 1.5 years, critical questions asked by the herd of lambs dressed as journalists at the press conference of Hugo and Mark ...

Eindelijk serieuze vragen v de kudde lammeren aan Hugo en Mark ... 😷😂
Twitter

by Oui on Fri Jul 9th, 2021 at 08:47:57 PM EST
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On June 26 there were 503 cases .... Hugo  and Mark figured Dutch society could open with a Big Bang 🔥
Indeed ... a scorcher 😡

Today (10 July) 10,345 new confirmed cases were reported. That is higher than the average of the past seven days (4,471).

Number of hospitalisations in NL low but trend upward in most age groups ...

by Oui on Sat Jul 10th, 2021 at 02:20:00 PM EST
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More deaths but not mass death if no new monster mutation turns up.

What is really unconscionable is dropping the mask mandate for schools and then dropping all mandates altogether, thereby letting delta rip through the younger population while they're not sufficiently vaccinated. Which means the envisioned long covid centers won't be enough to handle all the people who will be potentially incapacitated for life.

The people in charge are irresponsible gamblers.

Also, the Dutch government issuing vaccination certificates that are valid immediately after one shot of J&J is another forceful show of incompetence. Allowing indoor night clubbing to resume, well, who would've thought there would be superspreader events again?! Keep it outside, no problem. Flipping idiots.

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Mon Jul 12th, 2021 at 08:37:10 PM EST
I am seeing more of the sentiment "let them die if they don't want to get vaccinated" on US Twitter discussions. Which is not very nice but is understandable.
by asdf on Tue Jul 13th, 2021 at 12:01:28 AM EST
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"let them die if they don't want to get vaccinated"

The SARS Covid virus is seeking every opportunity to find hosts ... the mutation offers a renewed opportunity. Even infected world leaders remain stupid or perhaps lost their key brain functions.

Those persons believing in G*d or Jahweh (Orthodoxy) for protection and renounce science will be infected in the 4th wave. The rightwing complot crowd too will be vulnerable.

The victims are youth and young adults who have been poorly informed about long Covid. There is medication to recover more quickly, my impression is that healthcare and doctors do not offer aftercare and often will never see the hospital from the inside.

Long-term follow-up of recovered patients with COVID-19 | The Lancet |

by Oui on Tue Jul 13th, 2021 at 08:10:32 AM EST
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"I didn't know I was pregnant," a reality show broadcast by MTV, epitomizes generations of US Americans' knowledge base and experience with essential human physiology. While steeped in idioms of pop culture, including but not limited to "mysteries" or "politicization" of divinity on earth--such as the false brain/body dichotomy, "battles" with irreversible cellular damage (disease) projected by so-called survivors onto mechanical equipment and organ transplants, professional and corporate "personhood"--anatomy is not well understood.

The Lancet summarizes a group of clinical observations. It is informative--not prescriptive. These confirm predictable, irreversible organ damage (or secondary conditions) caused by chronic pulmonary (lung) diseases whose etiology and treatment are extremely well-documented but not likely comprehensible to readers unfamiliar with medical jargon and anatomical nomenclature.

But they've witnessed friends and family disabled over time by "common" respiratory "ailments" for which no cure exists, and the "standard of care" is systematically indicated by subsequent degrees of organ failure and contra-indicated by differential treatment plans ordered by each speciality, isolating so to speak each anatomical sub-system of the human body. They fear dependencies of the infirm in their homes and resent the costs of obtaining "life-saving" weapons.

Dr. Carla Sevin, director of the ICU Recovery Center at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, said: "If you still need oxygen, you probably need a pulmonologist. If you have heart issues, you probably need a cardiologist. But for some of these other symptoms, it's not really clear who the best person is to see you.

Conversely, NBC News speaks the language of the US American "consumer-patient" accustomed to "a 'unique care plan'" and might well expect novel, "re-imagining" replacement of five vital organs of the human body inexplicably permeated by SARS-CoV-2.

by Cat on Thu Jul 15th, 2021 at 02:56:19 PM EST
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It's the third time the Tories actively try to infect everyone with a deadly virus. No big surprise since there were no consequences at all the first few times, though they always ended up losing their nerves. Let's see how it goes now that all their voters are vaccinated.

Honestly every implementation of the entry permits I've seen up to now has been a joke. Sure, the Netherlands were pretty extreme in their bumbling, but we over here have "was infected with the Corona virus in the last six months" as a valid reason not to have to get tested even though we know the cross immunization between the variants is weak and everyone who recovered had Alpha, while everyone who'll get it in the next few months will get Delta.

by generic on Tue Jul 13th, 2021 at 06:46:49 AM EST
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to obtain NEW! herd immunity.
by Cat on Thu Jul 15th, 2021 at 03:06:27 PM EST
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Nice of the UK to step-up and run the experiment to see if the SARS-CoV-2 virus is a member of the coronaviruses to which humans do not develop immunity.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Thu Jul 15th, 2021 at 02:58:26 PM EST
by Cat on Thu Jul 15th, 2021 at 03:07:10 PM EST
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Coronaviruses have been linked to causing the "common cold."  Meaning, they and us have been in a parasitic symbiotic relationship for a long time.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Jul 16th, 2021 at 06:06:31 PM EST
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The problem is that as long as we don't stop them from leaving their island, we will be participating in their experiment.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Jul 16th, 2021 at 06:20:26 PM EST
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I suspect the EU will institute a quarantine right about the time the number of cases and infection rate in the EU make imposing a quarantine moot.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat Jul 17th, 2021 at 02:41:05 PM EST
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With Covid-19 running rampant at 50k+ cases a day:

[UK] ... Ministers argue that the vaccination programme, under which 87.8% of the adult population has had one vaccine and 67.8% have been double vaccinated, has largely broken the link between cases and mortality. [1]

But what hasn't been broken is the link between cases and long term sequelae.  

The acute clinical manifestations of COVID-19 have been well characterized but the post-acute sequelae of this disease have not been comprehensively described. Here we use the national healthcare databases of the US Department of Veterans Affairs to systematically and comprehensively identify 6-month incident sequelae--including diagnoses, medication use and laboratory abnormalities--in patients with COVID-19 who survived for at least 30 days after diagnosis. We show that beyond the first 30 days of illness, people with COVID-19 exhibit a higher risk of death and use of health resources. Our high-dimensional approach identifies incident sequelae in the respiratory system, as well as several other sequelae that include nervous system and neurocognitive disorders, mental health disorders, metabolic disorders, cardiovascular disorders, gastrointestinal disorders, malaise, fatigue, musculoskeletal pain and anaemia. We show increased incident use of several therapeutic agents--including pain medications (opioids and non-opioids) as well as antidepressant, anxiolytic, antihypertensive and oral hypoglycaemic agents--as well as evidence of laboratory abnormalities in several organ systems. Our analysis of an array of prespecified outcomes reveals a risk gradient that increases according to the severity of the acute COVID-19 infection (that is, whether patients were not hospitalized, hospitalized or admitted to intensive care). Our findings show that a substantial burden of health loss that spans pulmonary and several extrapulmonary organ systems is experienced by patients who survive after the acute phase of COVID-19. These results will help to inform health system planning and the development of multidisciplinary care strategies to reduce chronic health loss among individuals with COVID-19. [2]

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The UK is hopeless.  (So is the US for that matter, a different discussion.)

Unless the imposes strict quarantine measures on the UK (and US) NOW to prevent avoidable Covid-19 cases on the continent.  The Northern Ireland/UK border is of particular concern.  If Covid carriers are not stopped at ports of entry they will infect the island with the Delta variant (B.1.617.2.) If Unionists and the Brits aren't willing to take proper care the the question the Republic needs to answer is, "how many Irish do they want to kill or have Covid sequelae to keep the Northern Ireland border open?"

[1]  UK PM Johnson reverses plan to skip quarantine after COVID exposure

[2]  High-dimensional characterization of post-acute sequelae of COVID-19

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jul 18th, 2021 at 03:14:17 PM EST
Semantics to ease Delta outbreak in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ...

What difference does it make when you get your second AstraZeneca jab? | Smh.au |

The Delta variant has acquired mutations that slightly change the shape of its spike protein - the microscopic harpoon it uses to enter our cells - meaning some antibodies that would have gummed up earlier variants slide right off Delta. These changes appear to significantly cut the effectiveness of both AstraZeneca and Pfizer's vaccines. Those drop-offs in effectiveness are most pronounced after a single dose of either vaccine.

by Oui on Sun Jul 18th, 2021 at 04:15:53 PM EST
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See my comment in the Open Thread.

Shorter: looks like the vaccines have to work harder but are still effective

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jul 20th, 2021 at 02:53:57 PM EST
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Covid: 'Pingdemic' threatens shop openings say supermarkets - BBC
M&S said the number of workers being notified by the NHS app is rising exponentially, and it may have to reduce hours if there are shortages.

A leading supermarket, which declined to be named, said it could lead to massive disruption of food supplies.

"And there's a risk that there won't be sufficient staff to open shops."

Last week, over 500,000 alerts were sent to users of the NHS Test and Trace app in England and Wales for the week to 7 July, a rise of 46% on the previous week.

M&S chief executive Steve Rowe told The Times that the number of people being forced to self-isolate is "a major issue across every industry at the moment".

He said: "Our Covid cases are roughly doubling every week and the pinging level is about three to one of Covid cases, so we're seeing that growing exponentially."

He said: "If there's shortages we'll have to manage it by changing hours of stores, reducing hours."

Exponential growth is not well understood.

by Bernard on Sun Jul 18th, 2021 at 08:36:29 PM EST
RNZ: Could England be sued for putting the world at risk of Covid-19?:

Is it enough to hope Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will not just dismiss these concerns as piffle? Perhaps there is an alternative - taking the UK to court. Specifically, to the international courts that deal with matters of human rights.

For countries in the Council of Europe, this would be the European Court of Human Rights. Globally, there is the option of the Human Rights Committee of the United Nations.

How would this work? A court claim requires what lawyers call a "cause of action" - in this case, a breach of human rights, including the right to life and the right not to be subject to inhuman and degrading treatment.

Court cases are one option. but honestly, a country voluntarily turning itself into a petri-dish to breed better viruses is a direct threat to its neighbours, and to every country in the world. Which suggests that the matter should be put before the UN Security Council.

by IdiotSavant on Tue Jul 20th, 2021 at 06:08:50 AM EST
Not in a 100 years ... long list of violations ... very few court cases ... each court case with appeal could take a dozen years ... we'll be dead before justice runs it's course ... Grenfell Tower ... denials and lies ... take care of yourself .. the responsibility for your life is your own 😎
by Oui on Tue Jul 20th, 2021 at 06:31:31 AM EST
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Just because it's breeding dangerous supervariants that could kill us all doesn't mean the UK is a serious threat to the world.

Not compared to an ultra-scary terrist state like say... Cuba.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 20th, 2021 at 09:16:25 AM EST
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