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European Spring 2022

by Bernard Tue Mar 1st, 2022 at 06:29:49 PM EST

March: in French language, Mars, the god of war.


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Do not call Ukraine invasion a `war', Russia tells media, schools - Al Jazeera

Instead, `special military operation' should be used to describe Moscow's assault on Ukraine, according to officials.

As Russia's bloody military operation against Ukraine nears the end of its first week, the Kremlin has been working hard to promote its version of events in the face of widespread indignation and an anti-war movement at home, which has seen nearly 7,000 people arrested across the country since the conflict began on Thursday.

For instance, a statement by Russia's internet censor board, Roskomnadzor, warns that referring to the ongoing military campaign as an "invasion", "attack" or "declaration of war" will lead to the offending website being blocked.

Since Tuesday, schools across Russia have hosted special war-themed social studies classes, where teachers must tell schoolchildren between the seventh and 11th grades the official government's position on history and what the Kremlin deems the "special operation".

Hence, the Russian joke:
 What did you study at school, Sascha?
 The great novel by Leo Tolstoy: "Special military operation and peace"

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Mar 5th, 2022 at 11:29:23 AM EST
College Backtracks on Banning Teaching Dostoevsky Because He's Russian
"Dear Professor, the Vice Rector for Didactics has informed me of a decision taken with the rector to postpone the course on Dostoevsky," the email said, according to Nori's video.
HOlymuTTeRAgott
Nori went on: "I realize what is happening in Ukraine is horrible, and I feel like crying just thinking about it. But what is happening in Italy is ridiculous."
trauma-informed salvation awaits you
"In this time we need to study more, not less: in the university we need teachers, not incapable bureaucrats," [former-PM Matteo] Renzi wrote.
Have you embraced yer inner Raskolnikov?
On Wednesday, the university released a statement on its social media accounts confirming the course would go ahead.
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"The course of the writer Paolo Nori is part of the writing course aimed at students and citizens who aim to develop transversal skills through forms of writing. The university confirms that this course will take place in the established groups and will deal with the contents already agreed with the writer. In addition, the rector of the university will meet Paolo Nori next week for a moment of reflection," it said.
archived rational system of government
by Cat on Sat Mar 5th, 2022 at 06:41:41 PM EST
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Irony: still dead.

Will The Onion sue?

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Mar 5th, 2022 at 07:19:57 PM EST
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by Cat on Fri Mar 11th, 2022 at 10:53:44 PM EST
I drifted out of the Diem25 galaxy a couple of years ago (disappointment about the lack of democracy within the "Democracy in Europe Movement", distaste at the democratic-centralist manoeuvrings of Varoufakis and his clique of devotees), but I am in touch with a diaspora of former members, from whom I picked up this cathartic rant by the Polish news editor of the British anarchist site Freedom News
Earlier this week, the Polish parliamentary progressive left party, Razem, issued a statement in which they announce that they are cutting ties with two European organisations: Progressive International and DiEM25.

"The Russian aggression in Ukraine demands a lot of work from us and- unfortunately- explaining of many issues to the west European left," Razem states on their socials, "Yesterday, our National Council decided to leave Progressive International and DiEM25. Why? For reasons incomprehensible to us, both movements did not unequivocally condemn the imperialist and aggressive actions of the Russian Federation and did not unequivocally support the sovereignty of Ukraine, dangerously relativising this war."

I support this very polite and carefully worded statement, but this is Freedom so let me deliver this message by Razem differently: Fuck.You. Or, at the very least, Shut.The.Fuck.Up.

[snip]
This text was written with consultations with other Eastern European comrades. I am signing it with my name, mainly so you can then give me the joy of an accusation of myself being CIA-funded or something, but be informed that many East Europe leftists are on the same page here, and we have been discussing it for a while now.

This text will be a bit chaotic and I request you put up with this. Like most Eastern Europeans, I have spent the past week or so living in some kind of haze, where news cycles really last 24hrs, there is no sleep, and your phone rings constantly. Some of my friends, those from Central and Eastern Europe mostly, want to share their worries, they are organising support networks, collecting money, publishing How-To-Flee-Ukraine guides in multiple languages, cooking, driving scared and exhausted people to their temporary accommodation. Many, rightfully, share their disgust in the differences in how the Polish state and society (and wider, European states and societies) approach another "refugee crisis" just a bit further north, on the Belarusian parts of the Polish border, or the "refugee crisis" in other parts of Europe. Some are facing the very real possibility of finding themselves in combat soon. Some worry about their family currently in a war zone, some are in this war zone themselves. All are angry. All are sad to the point you are unlikely to understand.



It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Sun Mar 13th, 2022 at 05:00:04 PM EST
Also : Darya Rustamova : a thousand red flags

If your first reaction to Russian aggression anywhere is to bring up the Cold War or NATO (or anything you think the US or UK governments have done worse), your priorities are in the wrong place. We just need you, even for one single day, to simply and firmly stand with victims of Russian imperialism, or fucking stay quiet.

If your second reaction is to denounce armed resistance? 🚩🚩🚩 again. It's hard to understand outsiders wielding language like "civilised" and suddenly "European" and then also shouting at everyone to be pacifists like are we being classed as violent or civil today? I can't keep up.
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And while it is truly understandable that many people hate Russia and Russians and anything to do with Russia, part of the narrative Putin is giving to Russians is that he is the only person on their side. "It's us against them". He says the rest of the world hates us, watch how they treat us. He says Ukrainians are Russophobes (imagine). The insular, exceptional nationalism which Putin has been carefully nurturing and weaponising will only become more effective if the rest of the world turns its back on Russian people.

It also isn't anti-left to be anti-Russia, but taking Russian bands off festival line-ups also isn't going to help anyone. Do you think Putin watches Eurovision? Do you think cancelling football will finally stop him? Is de-platforming meerkats going to help? Do you find yourself suddenly crying when you hear Tchaikovsky for some reason? If so, have you considered simply not telling everyone about it? 🚩🚩🚩

(Sorry. I'm sooo tired of being on the "same side" as so many toxic people... just needed to reassure myself that all right-thinking leftists think like me.)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Sun Mar 13th, 2022 at 05:33:24 PM EST
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Earlier this week, the Polish parliamentary progressive left party, Razem, issued a statement in which they announce that they are cutting ties with two European organisations: Progressive International and DiEM25.

How many seats in parliament?

Poland's Left: Fragmented and in disarray | June 2018 |

2019 Polish parliamentary election

Russia's aggression towards Ukraine in the last few days requires us to work and - unfortunately - to explain many issues of the Western European left. Responsible for this, among others Magdalena Milenkovska, member of Razem Berlin and expert of the Secretariat of International Affairs Together.

Yesterday our National Council decided to leave Progressive International and DiEM25. Why? For reasons incomprehensible to us, both movements did not unequivocally condemn the imperialist and aggressive actions of the Russian Federation and did not unequivocally support the sovereignty of Ukraine, dangerously relativizing this war.

Magda, together with Zofia Malisz and Dorota Kolarska, is the author of an article that appeared in the Berliner Zeitung and Krytyka Polityczna, and co-authors of the position of the National Council.

Enough with the struggle of superpowers. Voices from Central and Eastern Europe | Partia Razem Poland |

Beyond the imperialistic cliché

Unfortunately, these facts seem to be overlooked by some of our German partners on the left. Gregor Gysi and Sevim Dagdelen of Die Linke repeatedly use phrases like NATO's ,,expansion" or ,,aggression". During this tense week, Rolf Mützenich of SPD, in turn, expressed understanding of Russia's ,,justified security concerns". Such statements embed these politicians, often incidentally, in a Cold War rhetoric, which the left is, after all, trying to move away from. 

Michael von der Schulenburg also describes the situation in Ukraine as a ,,conflict between the two strongest nuclear powers in the world, the USA and Russia, on European soil". Conducting a public debate on this crisis over the heads of the people in Central and Eastern Europe ultimately leads to the exclusion and objectification of the countries directly affected by the conflict.

A good example of sidelining Eastern Europe in action not only words is Nord Stream 2, a gas pipeline project that has been repeatedly protested against by Central and Eastern European politicians, and which today reveals its destructive potential. From our point of view, such words and actions are reminiscent of similar haughty politics that the West has pursued and continues to pursue towards Africa or the Middle East.

Democracy in Europe Movement 2025, or DiEM25

Countries of "New Europe" founded by Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George Bush and consolidated by Donald Trump. The expansionist and policy of aggression by NATO US Military Command should be criticized.

Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said so in an opinion piece December 2017 ... NATO crossed the red lines of Russia.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Thu Mar 17th, 2022 at 09:37:24 PM EST
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How many seats in parliament?

49 for the "left" coalition, of which 6 for Lewica Razem.

It's a long road back for the left in Poland. For the long term, Razem has the advantage of not being "post-communist", but thoroughly modern.
Agnieszka Dziemianowicz-Bąk is a personal heroine of mine.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Mar 18th, 2022 at 04:14:58 PM EST
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Over the past years or so, there were times, to me at least, where I believed European Tribune was showing signs of life. This in spite of archaic technology, and the disappearance of so many trusted people. Certainly the efforts of Frank Schnittger were powerfully positive, and Bernard and others, with the result that at least I began to spend more time here lurking.

It was even possible to ignore meter-long drivel, in the hope some semblance of a community could be reconstituted.

That's no longer the case, and I believe if there aren't changes, ET is over. I propose some parties be banned, not because of their views, but because they ignore and detract from the spirit which gave this place such life over years. (or they might simply be trolls.)

comments welcome.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 17th, 2022 at 06:56:37 PM EST
Thanks Verrückte Pferd. I have been trying to make this point recently. I don't like to talk of banning, but there is a crowding-out effect when over half the threads and content comme from a single person.

As for the community angle, the problem began years ago when the friendships and chit-chat migrated to other "social media". I think there is a POLITICAL case for bringing it back to actual "community" sites like this one; what that needs is critical mass.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Mar 18th, 2022 at 03:50:20 PM EST
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I share your feelings, CH, and I actually wrote a lengthy comment (for once) about that same issue.

I understand that much of the debate has moved to the so-called "social networks" (I assume the scare quotes). I avoid Facebook like the plague and I'm only reading a few people on Twitter, but haven't signed up, no matter what their marketing is trying to twist my arm.

As you pointed out, we have never pushed anyone away based on their unpopular views. All people who were kicked out were so for trolling and outright disruptive behavior, never for their opinions.

Do we need to go to that extreme? Frankly, I'm hesitant. We might have a smaller community, but I'm not sure this will give ET its groove back. Openness works better, on the whole.

This doesn't mean we have to be open to any kind of abuse: I could consider that we revise some of our rules about disruptive behavior to add things like not engaging in debates, posting comments that are just link farms, "flooding the zone" with content that rival in length with Tolkien...

Again, not sure what's the best way forward. Colman, who's running the hosting, could also pull the plug and put the site in read-only: we could still peruse the archives when we want; and we'd all move on.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Mar 20th, 2022 at 09:43:07 PM EST
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A new analysis of three space storms reveals the mechanisms of particle loss from the Van Allen belts | EoS |

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Wed Mar 30th, 2022 at 04:34:31 PM EST

Nou Camp: 'Magical' night for women's football as crowd record broken | BBC Sport |

The players produced a sensational display to thrash rivals Real Madrid 5-2 and reach the Champions League semi-finals, but all eyes were on the crowd, and whether it could surpass 60,739 and set a new record attendance for a women's club game.

It went much further, beating a 23-year record of 90,195 from the 1999 World Cup in the United States, to become the largest crowd to watch a women's football match.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Thu Mar 31st, 2022 at 08:39:43 AM EST
SERGEI & YULIA SKRIPAL - LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE APPOINTED IN LONDON
"Hughes and the others working for him have stumbled over whether to call the proceeding a 'public inquiry' or an 'independent inquiry'."
by Cat on Thu Mar 31st, 2022 at 06:57:26 PM EST
Some time ago, in one of the many threads about Ukraine (I think), there was a link to a youtube video with an American interviewing refugees from Mariupol. I seem to have lost the link, and can't find it. Does this ring a bell to anyone?
by fjallstrom on Sun Apr 10th, 2022 at 04:52:17 PM EST
There were many convoys af cars and busses and dozens of interviews. From Mariupol citizens tried to escape to Melitopol and Zaporizhzhia. The bus convoys mostly organized by the Red Cross. I don't recall in particular an American reporter. Was it an individual or a family or a large group.

'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Sun Apr 10th, 2022 at 05:26:37 PM EST
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I think the linked interview was him going around a refugee camp (mostly tents). Blondish American, speaking Russian but slowly and clearly with an accent. He had more videos on his youtube, including from inside Mariupol. I have forgotten his name, and my searches yields nothing.
by fjallstrom on Sun Apr 10th, 2022 at 06:50:24 PM EST
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Extensive reporting by Richard Engel near Kyiv for NBC News.

Some of the traumatized residents fleeing the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol arrived in Zaporizhzhia and found food and shelter in a supermarket that is being temporarily used as a refugee center. [Source Reuters]

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun Apr 10th, 2022 at 07:43:10 PM EST
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Demographic and political orientation of the city residents changed significantly and predictably after the Maidan nationalists launched the civil war ("Russo-Ukrainian War") with Donetsk "separatists"--48.7:44.4 in 2002 to 59:33 in 2017, respectively; and from Opposition Bloc majority local representation to exclusion from representation in the Rada. Which implies, years before the Red Cross sought a "humanitarian corridor" for refugees (to UAF quartered Zaporizhzhia [sic] city and oblast), at least 10% of "ethnic-Russian" speakers escaped Mariupol--points west and east--as "ethnic Ukrainians" migrated into the city with the UAF-trained NATO advisors. [wikiwtf: Zaporizhia].

Lancaster speaks with "ethnic-Russians" under siege--women, children, the infirm; Engler speaks for those "Ukranians" on route to Kiev.
archived: "Zaporizhia, 230 kilometers from Mariupol"

by Cat on Sun Apr 10th, 2022 at 10:40:15 PM EST
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He struck me as a Pepe Escobar wannabe. I may be wrong. But he's visibly on the payroll.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Sun Apr 10th, 2022 at 10:01:51 PM EST
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by Cat on Sun Apr 10th, 2022 at 07:07:33 PM EST
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by Cat on Tue Apr 26th, 2022 at 02:05:29 PM EST
by Bernard (bernard) on Fri Apr 29th, 2022 at 08:44:10 PM EST


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