QUESTION: Okay. And then my second thing, which is a related but not UNRWA, which has to do with this operation that the Israelis launched in Jenin, the hospital today. What—do you have any comment on that? Is this something that you think is problematic or is it something that you look at with envy, like this is some kind of great "Mission: Impossible" mission that we wish that we could also do?
MILLER: So I'd say that we strongly urge caution whenever operations have the potential to impact civilians and civilian installations. That of course includes hospitals. We do recognize the very real security challenges Israel faces, and its legitimate right to defend its people and its territory from terrorism. Israel, of course, has the right to carry out operations to bring terrorists to justice, but those operations need to be conducted in full compliance with international humanitarian law.
QUESTION: Well, the—do those operations include going into hospitals and murdering people in their beds regardless of whether they're—
MILLER: So—
QUESTION:—that they are suspected or even known terrorists? Is that okay with you guys?
MILLER: So there was a lot in the premise of that question. Obviously, they—we did—do know that they went into—
QUESTION: Well, you don't think that they went in—
MILLER: We—well, hold on.
QUESTION:—and killed people who are completely innocent, do you?
MILLER: We—so let me say that this—
QUESTION: Because if you did think that, then you would be condemning it, right?
MILLER: We certainly would, but I would say that Israel has said that these were Hamas operatives. They have said that one of them was carrying a gun at the time of the operation. So I'm not able to speak to the facts of the operation. You'd have to pass some kind of legal judgement—know all of the facts of the operation. But as a general matter, they do have the right to carry out operations to bring terrorists to justice, but they need to be conducted in full—
QUESTION: Including in hospitals?
MILLER: So we want them to conduct their operations in compliance with international humanitarian law. We would generally say that we don't want them to carry out operations in hospitals, but under international humanitarian law, hospitals do lose some of their protections if they are being used to—for the planning of terrorist operations, for the execution of terrorist operations.
QUESTION: The actual hospital—the actual hospital building does. But I mean, going in disguised as women and doctors and whatever is something different, and then going in and picking out people in particular rooms and particular beds and killing them seems to be something different.
MILLER: So we want them to conduct their operations in compliance with international humanitarian law. We would generally say that we don't want them to carry out operations in hospitals, but under international humanitarian law, hospitals do lose some of their protections if they are being used to—for the planning of terrorist operations, for the execution of terrorist operations.
QUESTION: The actual hospital—the actual hospital building does. But I mean, going in disguised as women and doctors and whatever is something different, and then going in and picking out people in particular rooms and particular beds and killing them seems to be something different.
MILLER: So again, not able to offer an assessment without knowing all these facts. I said some of the facts that have been presented by Israel are that one of them was carrying a gun and that they were planning to carry out or to launch terrorist operations. So you would have to look at all of those facts to make a specific assessment about this operation. But in general, we do want to see hospitals protected. It is important that no civilians were harmed in this operation, but—and as I said, we want—we do believe Israel has—
QUESTION: So how do you know—how do you know that?
MILLER: There have been no reports of civilians who have been harmed in this operation.
QUESTION: Can I follow up on that, please?
MILLER: Go ahead, Said.
QUESTION: Thank you. Actually, on both points. But on this particular one, I mean, Israel occupies the whole West Bank. They are under their control. They don't need to disguise themselves as medics and go into a hospital and kill people, which you called non-civilians. They are actually civilians, but that's beside the point. So—
MILLER: I—so that is very much—but hold on.
QUESTION: Just allow me. Allow me just to follow up.
MILLER: No, Said, but before you call someone a civilian that Israel has said is a member of Hamas, I need to put on the record that that is very much a question that's in dispute.
QUESTION: There are civilian members of Hamas; it's a political organization. I mean, you may disagree with their politics, but that does not make them militants, right? Or—
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