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Biden's Road Map to ME Peace DOA

by Oui Sat Jun 1st, 2024 at 11:58:15 AM EST

Johnson's statement on peace negotiations with North Vietnam sabotaged by right-wing Republicans in U.S. Congress and Nixon-Kissinger cabal.

CBS News Special Report: LBJ 'Will Not Seek Reelection' address to the nation [3-31-1968]

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In comparison what a little guy Joe is except his ego shows unwillingness to work for peace and not war ... boasts 50 year friendship with war criminal Bibi Netanyahu. Johnson showed courage for his people and stepped aside to work for peace in SE Asia ... actors like Biden and Netanyahu should just disappear ...

Biden's political future on the line for re-election

Hopes for a ceasefire: Biden announces new proposal to end the war | Al Jazeera |

Biden urges Hamas to accept Israel's latest proposal to end war in Gaza | PBS NewsHour |

Netanyahu already dropped the proposal in the waste bin ... wasn't'd coordinated and approved by his war cabinet and legion of Kahanists in government Ben Gvir and Smotrich.

After Biden announces Gaza cease-fire proposal, Netanyahu stresses war will go on | Anadolu Agency |

Soon after Biden announces cease-fire proposal in Gaza, Netanyahu's office says Israeli premier authorized negotiating team to present outline for hostages' release

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office on Friday reiterated his intention to continue the country's offensive in the Gaza Strip until all of Tel Aviv's war goals are achieved.

The statement came on the heels of US President Joe Biden announcing a fresh cease-fire proposal that he said Israel greenlighted, urging Palestinian group Hamas to accept it.

Netanyahu's office said, "the war will not end until all of its goals are achieved, including the return of all our hostages and the elimination of Hamas' military and governmental capabilities."

However it added that Netanyahu had authorized Israel's negotiating team to "present an outline for achieving this goal," in reference to the hostages' release.

"The exact outline proposed by Israel, including the conditional transition from stage to stage, allows Israel to maintain these principles," the statement concluded.

The proposal, announced by Biden, extends over three phases, the first spanning six weeks and including a full cease-fire, the withdrawal of Israeli forces from populated areas in Gaza, and the exchange of prisoners.

Joe giving all credit to “architect” of new proposal .. Israel’s war cabinet under direction of Bibi Netanyahu … from horse’s mouth 😂

More Kabuki Theatre from the Green Lawn of the White House

Understanding Biden’s proposal for a Gaza ceasefire | Mondoweiss |

As U.S. President Joe Biden stepped up to the microphone on Friday, he checked his watch before beginning his speech, joking that he wanted to make sure it was afternoon. Given that he was almost an hour late to the speech, someone might have told him behind the scenes to wait until it was close to the beginning of Shabbat in Israel. That way, far-right, and Sabbath-observant, ministers such as Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir would have to wait a day to respond to a speech they certainly did not want to hear.

Nor was Biden’s speech one that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu could have been very pleased with, although he must have known it was coming well in advance.

Biden spent the bulk of his talk presenting what he called “a new Israeli proposal” for ending the slaughter in Gaza.

On one hand, the plan he presented was remarkably similar to the one Israel rejected in early May, subsequently claiming that Hamas had “altered” it when they accepted the idea.

This raises the question of why Israel would suddenly accept it now. Part of the answer came shortly after Biden’s speech, when both houses of Congress, and the full bipartisan leadership, issued a formal invitation for Netanyahu to address a joint session in Congress, likely at the end of August or early September.

The politics around all of this are cynical, but there can be little doubt that the mass demonstrations around the United States and Europe, throughout the Arab world, and even in Israel pressed all the parties involved in talks to at least get a real offer on the table. Still, those same politics may still mean Israel’s onslaught will continue.

A remark I caught during a debate …

Biden is more Trump than Trump himself

’Non-starter’: Netanyahu says no permanent Gaza ceasefire until Hamas destroyed | TOI |

Lapid urges PM to accept deal outlined by Biden; promises safety net if far-right ministers bolt; hostage families say this could be last chance; Blinken briefs Saudis, UAE, Turks

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday there would be no “permanent ceasefire” in Gaza until Hamas’s military and governing capabilities were destroyed.

His comments, in a rare statement published on the Sabbath and only in English, came after United States President Joe Biden announced Friday that Israel had proposed a three-phase deal for a ceasefire in Gaza in exchange for Hamas releasing hostages, told the terror group to accept it and urged the Israeli government to stand behind it.

“Israel’s conditions for ending the war have not changed: The destruction of Hamas military and governing capabilities, the freeing of all hostages and ensuring that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel,” Netanyahu said.

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Biden described the proposal as originating with Israel and laid out the details of a three-phase deal, with particular emphasis on the first phase, a six-week truce that could be extended if talks took longer. The deal, Biden revealed, had been submitted to Hamas on Thursday via Qatar, a mediator in negotiations to end the nearly eight-month war, which have faltered since April.

A US official later said the Israeli proposal was a highly detailed four-and-a-half-page document. It was apparently approved by the war cabinet — compromising Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and minister Benny Gantz — but presumably not yet presented to the wider security cabinet, of which far-fight ministers Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich are members, and on whose support Netanyahu depends for his coalition’s majority.

Immediately after the speech, Netanyahu — whom Biden avoided naming — released an initial statement saying that “The Israeli government is united in the desire to return our hostages as soon as possible and is working to achieve this goal.”

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Israeli ministers threaten to quit over ceasefire plan | BBC News |

Two far-right Israeli ministers have threatened to quit and collapse the governing coalition if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agrees to a Gaza ceasefire proposal unveiled by US President Joe Biden on Friday.

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said they were opposed to striking any deal before Hamas was destroyed. Opposition leader Yair Lapid has pledged to back the government if Mr Netanyahu supported the plan.

The prime minister himself insisted there would be no permanent truce until Hamas's military and governing capabilities were destroyed and all hostages released.

However, the White House said on Sunday it expected Israel would agree to the plan.

"This was an Israeli proposal. We have every expectation that if Hamas agrees to the proposal - as was transmitted to them, an Israeli proposal - then Israel would say yes," White House national security spokesperson John Kirby told ABC News.

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reuters | Hamas leader demands full end to conflict in blow to Biden plan, 6 June
Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh appeared to deliver the Palestinian militant group's reply to the proposal that Biden unveiled last week. Washington had said it was waiting to hear an answer from Hamas to what Biden described as an Israeli initiative.

"The movement and factions of the resistance will deal seriously and positively with any agreement that is based on a comprehensive ending of the aggression and the complete withdrawal and prisoners swap," Haniyeh said. CIA director William Burns met senior officials from mediators Qatar and Egypt on Wednesday in Doha to discuss the ceasefire proposal. Notably, Biden said in February [!] that Israel agreed to a ceasefire by the start of the Ramadan Muslim holy month on March 10, a deadline which passed with military operations in full swing.

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"General Framework for a Comprehensive Agreement among the Parties"
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Three U.S. officials told Reuters that Biden, having obtained Israel's agreement for the proposal, had deliberately announced it without warning the Israelis he would do so, to narrow the room for Netanyahu to back away.

"We didn't ask permission to announce the proposal," said a senior U.S. official granted anonymity to speak freely about the negotiations. "We informed the Israelis we were going to give a speech on the situation in Gaza. We did not go into great detail about what it was."

F24 | 'Positive signs' from Hamas on Gaza truce, Egyptian state-linked media report
Egypt has received "positive signs" from Hamas over a proposed Gaza truce and hostage release deal, state-linked Al-Qahera News said Thursday, citing a high-level source.
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US, UK, Germany, and France re-affirm support for Biden's Gaza deal
on the margins of the D-Day anniversary events in France, they said in a statement.
"The Leaders ... reaffirmed their full support for the comprehensive deal outlined by President Biden that would lead to an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the release of all the hostages, a significant and sustained increase in humanitarian assistance ... and an enduring end to the crisis," they said in a joint statement published by Britain.

US has been in contact with Israel about strike on school in Gaza, State Dept says
The U.S. has been in contact with Israel about a strike on a school in Gaza on Thursday, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller [!] told reporters, adding that Washington expects Israel to be fully transparent in making information about the strike public.

Hamas says Biden Gaza ceasefire plan 'just words'
A senior Hamas official said Thursday that US President Joe Biden's proposed Gaza ceasefire deal was "just words" and the Palestinian militant group had not received any written commitments related to a truce. Osama Hamdan, a Hamas official based in Beirut, told AFP: "There is no proposal—they are just words said by Biden in a speech."
"So far, the Americans have not presented anything documented or written that commits them to what Biden said in his speech," he said from the Lebanese capital.

Proxy 3-day 'cease-fire' proposal, 11 Nov 2023
Actual 6-day 'fighting pause' 24-29 Nov 2023
Dueling cease fire terms 2024 | full-size table. sources: public domain

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Jun 6th, 2024 at 07:58:43 PM EST
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Department Press Briefing spokesperson Matt Miller - June 5, 2024

QUESTION: All right. Well, we'll take it, frog and all. Today marks the 57th anniversary of the Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza. And just to give you some of the things that happened on a daily basis, they blew up two homes in Jalbun. They - there's a statement by the UN saying that the killing of people in the West Bank is unacceptable - 500 people - and so on and so on, and so on. I mean, my question to you: How long must the Palestinians endure? Should they endure another 57 years of occupation? Shouldn't - isn't it time for the United States of America to make good on its so many commitment, so many times over the decades, that this occupation must end? Or maybe you don't feel that this occupation ought to end.

MR MILLER: So Said, if you like at the work that we have been doing, it is to establish an independent Palestinian state --

QUESTION: Right.

MR MILLER: -- to answer the Palestinian people's legitimate political aspirations. One of the things you heard the President speak to in - on Friday, when he outlined this ceasefire proposal that is still pending with Hamas, is that we want to resolve the immediate crisis in Gaza. We want to see an end to the death and destruction there. But then we also believe that the acceptance of that proposal could lead us to long-term peace, long-term stability, and of course self-determination for the Palestinian people.

QUESTION: Well, looking at what this President has done, or former presidents have done in terms of exercising or leveraging the weight and the prestige of the United States on Israel to make good, to stop the settlement, you have not. To end the killing, you have not. I mean, we see -

MR MILLER: So --



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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Jun 6th, 2024 at 07:59:32 PM EST
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Inside Biden's 'Hug Bibi' Strategy | The Atlantic |

The president believes the best way to shape Israeli strategy is to start with reassurance, and then use the trust he's built.

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Jun 6th, 2024 at 08:01:17 PM EST
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THE CEASEFIRE DEAL THAT WASN'T by Seymour Hersh

The proposal Biden put forward last week had little basis in reality

The political panic is on, as it should be, in the Biden camp, and the president's latest whopper, so far unremarked upon by what passes these days for the major media in America, came at an abruptly scheduled presidential briefing last Friday, a day after the conviction of Donald Trump.

The president, after praising the judicial system as the cornerstone of America, turned to the Middle East and announced: "I want to give an update on my efforts to end the crisis in Gaza. For the past several months, my negotiators . . . have been relentlessly focused not just on a ceasefire that would inevitably be fragile and temporary but on a durable end to the war.

"One that brings all the hostages home, ensures Israeli's security, creates a better `day after' in Gaza without Hamas in power, and sets the stage for a political settlement that provides a better future for Israelis and Palestinians alike.

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The talk sounded great and made a lot of headlines. It was also, as I learned speaking with a well informed American official, pure political bunkum. There was no breakthrough offer of a "comprehensive new proposal" from Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other leaders in Tel Aviv, as they would make clear in subsequent days, had no idea what the president and his increasingly desperate political aides were talking about.



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whitehouse.gov | Remarks by President Biden on the Middle East, 31 May
And with this deal, Israel could become more deeply integrated into the region, including—it's no surprise to you all—including no- a po- potential historic normalization agreement with Saudi Arabia.  Israel could be part of a regional security network to counter the threat posed by Iran. All of this progress would make Israel more secure, with Israeli families no longer living in the shadow of a terrorist attack.
thehill | It's 'hard to say' how Israeli hostage rescue will impact cease-fire negotiations (09.06.24)
"It's hard to say how Hamas will process this particular operation and what it will do to its determination about whether it will say yes or not," he added. "We have not gotten a formal answer from Hamas at this time.  We're waiting for them to communicate to Qatar and Egypt, two of the mediators involved in the hostage negotiations... Well, of course, the Israeli Defense Forces have put out one number, the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry has put out another number. We're looking into it," Sullivan said. "It will take some time for us to make any kind of determination. And we may never be able to definitively determine it."
ChatGPT | US launches lobbying blitz to sell Gaza cease-fire plan to Hamas through Arab and Muslim nations, 4 June
Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and national security adviser Jake Sullivan have all made calls, and Brett McGurk, the White House coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa, will be heading to region this week to further make the case for the deal. The plan would aim to free remaining Israeli hostages held by Hamas and lead to the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Gaza in phases.
tabloid USA | Hamas demands end of war for any hostage deal; Israel intensifies ground assault 4 June
BRENNAN: Jake, I know the US provided intelligence support to this military operation. Are you at all concerned that it will imperil the chances at that diplomatic agreement and is there an expiration date by which Yaha Sinwar has to respond to this offer?
SULLIVAN: It's a fair question, Margaret. What will Hamas do int terms of its calculus on this deal following this operation and I, of course, cannot put myself in the head of a Hamas terrorist. But the fact is that the whole world is looking to Hamas to say, yes, because for all those people, for all these months who've been calling for a cease fire, now's the moment there could a cease fire tomorrow, today even, if Hamas would say, yes, to the deal. So from our perspective the wold needs to continue to reinforce that message quite clearly and strongly. We have not gotten an official response yet from Hamas.
thehill | Sullivan says 'innocent people were killed' in Israeli rescue operation , 9 June "tragic mistake"
Sullivan explained that the Gaza Health Ministry and the Israeli military have put out differing numbers and that the U.S. could not confirm how many casualties there were.

"We, the United States, are not in a position today to make a definitive statement about that. The Israeli defense forces have put out one number. The Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry has put out another number," he said. "But we do know this, Dana. Innocent people were tragically killed in this operation. The exact number we don't know, but innocent people were killed. And that is heartbreaking. That is tragic," he added.

archive Blinken urges Hamas to accept Israel's 'extraordinarily generous' Gaza truce proposal 29 April
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latimes | Centrist Benny Gantz, a member of Israel's war Cabinet, resigns, 9 June incontinence alert
The move does not immediately pose a threat to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who still controls a majority coalition in parliament. But the Israeli leader becomes more heavily reliant on his far-right centrist allies.

Gantz said that Netanyahu is making "total victory [!] impossible" and that the government needs to put the return of the hostages seized Oct. 7 by Hamas "above political survival."
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wsbtv.bobble-head | Centrist Benny Gantz is quitting Israel's war Cabinet, citing frustrations with Netanyahu
The popular former military chief joined Netanyahu's government shortly after the Hamas attack in a show of unity. His presence also boosted Israel's credibility < wipes tears > with its international partners. Gantz has good working relations with U.S. officials. On Sunday evening, Ben-Gvir [!] demanded a spot in the war Cabinet, saying Gantz and the smaller Cabinet had bungled the war effort due to "dangerous" ideological decisions.
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Israel cheers rescue of 4 hostages as Hamas says raid killed 274 | France24 News |

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Let's recap
palestinechronicle | Full Text of Hamas Response to Ceasefire Proposal, 7 Feb
reuters | Hamas welcomes UN Security Council resolution calling for Gaza ceasefire, 24 Mar
"The resolution passed on Monday demands an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian Islamist group Hamas as well as the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, after the United States abstained from the vote."
arabcenterdc | Full Text of the Cease fire Agreement That Hamas has Accepted, 6 May
tabloid USA | Israel's Netanyahu says no Gaza ceasefire until Hamas destroyed, 1 June
SULLIVAN: "We have not gotten a formal answer from Hamas at this time", 9 June
SULLIVAN: "I'm not going to get into the specific operational or intelligence matters associated with that", 9 June

reuters | Hamas, Palestinian Authority welcome UN Security Council resolution for Gaza ceasefire, 10 June 6:33 PM EDT

The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas, its ally the Islamic Jihad group, and the rival Palestinian Authority of President Mahmoud Abbas's welcomed a U.N. Security Council resolution backing a proposal for a ceasefire in Gaza. In its statement, Hamas said it was ready to cooperate with mediators over implementing the principles of the plan.
reuters | Hamas welcomes UN Security Council resolution for Gaza ceasefire, 10 June 8:29 PM UTC
"Hamas welcomes what is included in the Security Council resolution that affirmed the permanent cease fire in Gaza, the complete withdrawal, the prisoners' exchange, the reconstruction, the return of the displaced to their areas of residence, the rejection of any demographic change or reduction in the area of the Gaza Strip, and the delivery of needed aid to our people in the Strip," the militant group said in a statement.

Hamas also said it was willing to engage in indirect negotiations over implementing the principles "that are consistent with the demands of our people and resistance."

presstv.ir | Hamas welcomes UN Security Council resolution on ceasefire plan, 10 June
The Palestinian resistance movement voiced its approval of the resolution in a press statement on Monday, hours after the 15-member council voted overwhelmingly in its favor. Hamas said it "welcomes what is included in the Security Council resolution that affirmed the permanent ceasefire in Gaza, the complete withdrawal of the Israeli forces, and the prisoners' exchange." It also said it approved of the plan's other provisions, namely "the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip, the return of the displaced to their areas of residence, the rejection of any demographic change or reduction in the area of Gaza, and the delivery of needed aid to our people in the strip."
wapoo | WFP pauses its aid work at US pier in Gaza over security concerns, in latest setback, 10 June
Saturday saw both an Israeli military assault that freed four hostages but left 274 Palestinians and one Israeli commando dead, and Cindy McCain said, two of WFP's warehouses in Gaza had been "rocketed" and a staffer injured. [...] Pushing back against social media claims after the Israeli military operation, U.S. Central Command said in a tweet [?] Saturday [8 June] that neither the pier nor any of its equipment, personnel or other assets were used in the Israeli operation. It noted that Israel used an area south of the pier "to safely return hostages."
malaymail | Hamas, Palestinian authority welcome UN Security Council resolution for Gaza ceasefire, 10 June
Separately, the Islamic Jihad said early today that it looks "positively" to what the resolution included, "especially in terms of opening the door to reaching a comprehensive cessation of aggression and a complete withdrawal of Israeli forces" from the Gaza Strip.

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