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Money, Money, Money and Grace from God

by Oui Sat Aug 3rd, 2024 at 12:03:08 PM EST

Swaying the 2024 presidential election with a hand on the Christian Bible ... let wealth work for you ... thank you Supreme Court for paving the path into the White House.

Dominionists ... taking control of government to preserve Christian nationalism ... a part of coercive control well defined in ultra-Christian families guided by paternalism.

European and U.S. Constitutionalism | Venice Commission - 2003 |

Interesting ... a side step

Cults and Conversion: The Case for Informed Consent | 1981 |


Pie Fights that Changed Progressive Blogs

I vividly remember Spring 2005 and ugly pie fights over @dKos, the site that managed to ban me twice in a short period of time. 😂

Martin Longman as Booman23 had founded his new community BooMan Tribune and we were thrilled where a broad and open discourse was possible. From Military Tracy and the Iraq War to gardening tips from Diane and many prolific lady bloggers. The Welcome Wagon was the first meeting place for newbies to introduce themselves. In a slow steady, steady pace the community grew until the pie fights started at parent blog dKos a d in a matter of weeks membership tripled in size causing a huge gender gap. 😅

Mostly these are faint memories, but started writing this article with key words ...
coercive control well defined in ultra-Christian families guided by paternalism

I came across a fitting article written by afew in 2006. Quite amazing how American society adapted to the campaign of war on terror and a change at home.

I will start with a comment to the diary ...

Re: Fireworks expected on dKos

    In Europe most people distrusts politicians by default. This does not mean that they do not trust in a general sense, but that they msut always refer to politicans in a cynical way. It is a must for any conversation.

    Of course, we like some politicians, we hate some..and overall, we want that they solve ALL our prolbmes.. and when I say ALL I do really MEAN ALL our problems. Europe is BLame the politican land.

    I tried to explain that to an American and he almost got crazy... "if you are not in Europe you will not understand" I finished...because it makes no sense... if you think in logical terms.

The mere suggestion that the President might not have the best interests of the [people of the] United States at heart can make most American heads explode.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You don't need extraordinary evidence to convince a European that their government is up to no good, but you do with an American. And a fair number of comments on Jerome's diary are saying as much: even after all that we know Bush has done in the past 6 years, it seems to be an open question whether a groundswell of outrage can be generated in the American public. Because to admit what Bush has done flies in the face of the myths that underpin America as a nation and define Americans as citizens. It is a question of faith, if being American is a religion the Constitution is scripture and the President is the High Priest, and people will rather deny the evidence before their eyes than deny their faith.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 03:57:23 PM PDT

afew's diary a worthwhile read 😊

American Pie (Fight?)

by afew Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 09:45:40 AM PDT

Recent discussions here (here and here, for example), and on DKos have emphasized that dialogue between Americans and Europeans is increasingly difficult. We don't understand each other, and it seems to be getting worse, not better.

[...] more to follow ... need a short break 🙃

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Q&A: For every 1 Jewish Zionist, there are 30 Christian Zionists, and Netanyahu exploits this | TRT World |

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been using biblical references in his speeches while he continues his relentless bombing campaign in Gaza. Why is he using such references in his war rhetoric?

STEPHEN SIZER: Well, Benjamin Netanyahu knows that he depends heavily on the United States to veto any UN resolutions critical of Israel's behaviour. And he needs US military support to counter any threat from Syria or Lebanon. Egypt, you may know, is the second largest recipient of US aid after Israel. The stick is used against Palestinians, against the Lebanese, against the Syrians. The carrot is used in Jordan to placate the Jordanian regime and in Egypt to keep them compliant with a US-Israel policy of continuing to colonise Palestinian territories, subjugate the people and as we're seeing in Gaza, commit genocide and, as we anticipate, force the majority of Palestinians in Gaza into Egypt, another Nakba. So he's using the scriptures to resonate with his Christian Zionist supporters in the US.

What is Christian Zionism and is it different from the Zionist movement that was created by Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century?

STEPHEN SIZER: Christian Zionism is actually the dominant form of Zionism. It has been since before the Zionist movement emerged in the 1870s, 1880s - there were Christians calling for the restoration of the Jews to Palestine from the 1820s, 1830s and the Balfour Declaration with the demise of the Ottoman Empire that Britain's entry, if you like, into the Middle East having defeated the French was to colonise Palestine. And he saw the role of the Jews as serving the best interests of the British Empire. Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism by at least 50 years and today dominates the Zionist movement at least 10 to 1, probably nearer 20, 30 to 1. For every Jewish Zionist, there are 20 or 30 Christian Zionists and therefore Netanyahu knows he needs the Christian, particularly the Christian right in America, Canada, Sweden, Holland and in much of Europe in order to maintain his position and to continue the expansion of the Zionist agenda in Palestine.

So Netanyahu's use of these biblical references resonates with the Christian Zionist base in the United States and Europe?

SS: Yeah, he's quoting scripture. It doesn't mean anything to his Jewish constituents, but it does to those who believe the Bible is coming true. Christian Zionism - it predicated on the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people. They've been returned to the land in fulfilment of Old Testament prophecies that the Messiah is going to return soon. But there will be a war, a final war, an Armageddon, and it will be pitting Israel and its allies against the Arab world, against the communists, against those who have a different worldview to that of Israel.

When Netanyahu uses terms like the Amalek regarded as the staunch enemies of the Biblical Israelites, is he ascribing that term to the Palestinian Arabs?

STEPHEN SIZER: Yes, he is. The other one that's used quite a lot is the Philistines. The Philistines were the traditional enemies of the Jews or the Israelites. And so they are painted as the bad guys. The Samaritans again were the bad guys in Israelite history. And so it's no surprise the Samaritans today, those on the West Bank fulfil that negative role. So the Amalekites and the other Arab tribes that populated the coastal plain into which the 12 tribes of Israel were seeking to settle are seen as the enemy. So it's an easy, superficial, simplistic way. It's a kind of a dualism, Manichean worldview, the good guys and the bad guys, we are the good guys, God is on our side. And the bad guys are whoever we want to take out. So it's convenient in the genocide that's taking place, the ethnic cleansing in Gaza to demonise the Palestinians as either they're all Hamas or they are the embodiment of the traditional enemies of the Jewish people in history.



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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Aug 4th, 2024 at 09:06:58 AM EST


'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Sun Aug 4th, 2024 at 09:07:37 AM EST
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